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TSsoohan
post Jun 6 2016, 07:13 PM, updated 10y ago

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Would like to have some review about GT86. Why there is so less people driving GT86 in Malaysia?

How's the car specification?
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post Jun 6 2016, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(soohan @ Jun 6 2016, 07:13 PM)
Would like to have some review about GT86. Why there is so less people driving GT86 in Malaysia?

How's the car specification?
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Bcoz Nissan GT-R nicer
lsm1991
post Jun 6 2016, 07:32 PM

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cause pricetag so ridiculous
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post Jun 6 2016, 08:40 PM

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Becauseeeee this car is all gaya only.
Power tarak. Easily kena tapao on the road
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post Jun 6 2016, 09:03 PM

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Well in modern days people would very much prefer a car with much more power than the gt86 and yes it isnt the fastest car out there for its price and if u were to drag race with a bmw or mercs u will definitely lose kawkaw. Buying a gt86 is all about its handling, fun factor and the sheer balance of the car, not for power. But most people cant seem to get that so....
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post Jun 6 2016, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Jun 6 2016, 09:03 PM)
Well in modern days people would very much prefer a car with much more power than the gt86 and yes it isnt the fastest car out there for its price and if u were to drag race with a bmw or mercs u will definitely lose kawkaw. Buying a gt86 is all about its handling, fun factor and the sheer balance of the car, not for power. But most people cant seem to get that so....
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well said... but in all honestly, its way too exp for what tech it is or what it has......
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post Jun 6 2016, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 6 2016, 09:04 PM)
well said... but in all honestly, its way too exp for what tech it is or what it has......
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Well if u look at it in a different perspective its actually not that expensive although its around 240k if im not mistaken. With 240k u can get a car that handles so well on the road in terms of balance and u cant get a car that will drive like a gt86. But if you only want power and class you'd be better off with the germans! But in my honest opinion the engine is a little bit underpowered and it needs more torque. But u can always install aftermarket mods on your car!
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post Jun 6 2016, 09:52 PM

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But it if you love the number "86" then you should buy GT86, these numbers will appear almost everywhere on the car, in brochure, tech spec, etc.
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post Jun 6 2016, 09:57 PM

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It's supposed to be a cheap, fun car. There is no such thing as a cheap car in Malaysia. The concept fails.

The same goes for the MX5.

If you have RM240K, you can get something really fancy from the AP guys.
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post Jun 7 2016, 02:18 AM

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If u want it, buy recond. No point buying new, too expensive. Parts will be plenty as everywhere that has it cheap will be trashed.
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post Jun 7 2016, 07:26 AM

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Many malaysian dont know how to drive. All the know is straight road tekan habis. Then they will ask .. Top speed berapa?
When see conner in front.. They brake like the end of the world. 86 is about handling and drive, not asking top speed berapa
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post Jun 7 2016, 07:37 AM

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This car only for car enthusiast or second car for weekend occasionally drive; and to get back some real driving feel which lost over the years of driving uninspiring auto car laugh.gif

And this car should not more than 200k for a new one... not the ridiculous 240k


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post Jun 7 2016, 09:01 AM

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If price is 150k, then u can see many on the road. 😂
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post Jun 7 2016, 10:03 AM

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It must be priced like a Corolla, eg. original AE86, and pasar malam people use it to carry/deliver goods, then can see many on the road.


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post Jun 7 2016, 10:38 AM

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downside of this car is the price. but those who talk about its power..easily kene tapau..definitely didnt know what is 86 all about. u think ori hachi roku got lots of power ka?
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post Jun 7 2016, 10:42 AM

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What the 86 badly needs is a turbocharged engine.

Then it would be close to perfect.
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post Jun 7 2016, 11:36 AM

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i see alot recond 86 at 150k, tempting....
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post Jun 11 2016, 03:23 PM

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Handling? Corner?
Subaru grb second hand (around 120k) gonna tabao this car...... no matter in track or jalan raya.
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post Jun 11 2016, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jun 11 2016, 03:23 PM)
Handling? Corner?
Subaru grb second hand (around 120k) gonna tabao this car...... no matter in track or jalan raya.
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as the ret have said, not abot the speed.... its about how it feels... you know? that kind of smucky carfanatic stuff
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post Jun 11 2016, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jun 11 2016, 03:23 PM)
Handling? Corner?
Subaru grb second hand (around 120k) gonna tabao this car...... no matter in track or jalan raya.
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Handling? Corner?
wiralution (around 30k) gonna tabao this Subaru grb... no matter in track or jalan raya.
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post Jun 11 2016, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(dman @ Jun 11 2016, 06:23 PM)
Handling? Corner?
wiralution (around 30k) gonna tabao this Subaru grb... no matter in track or jalan raya.
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Handling? Corner?
Myvi 1.5 SE gonna tabao this wiralution...ni matter in track or jalan raya...



Oh wait...its over RM50k..

Sorry...
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post Jun 11 2016, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(waiora_protuner @ Jun 11 2016, 06:29 PM)
Handling? Corner?
Myvi 1.5 SE gonna tabao this wiralution...ni matter in track or jalan raya...
Oh wait...its over RM50k..

Sorry...
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rclxms.gif thumbup.gif true story!

*in all seriousness,,, technically you can get a wira to go that fast.. its just how much you want to pour into it and how much drivability you can sacrifice
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post Jun 11 2016, 07:19 PM

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We ppl like to compare which car is the fastest etc but neglect the main important aspect such as handling, steering feel and overall balance of the car.

Gt86 is a reminder to us that good car not necessarily to be the fastest. It's about overall balance.

It just the pricing in Msia screw up the much potential car here. Ppl will start comparing price in relation with 0-100 as usual mega_shok.gif




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post Jun 12 2016, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(soohan @ Jun 6 2016, 07:13 PM)
Would like to have some review about GT86. Why there is so less people driving GT86 in Malaysia?

How's the car specification?
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Agree with most previous posts, it's because of the price. It's supposed to be an affordable entry level sports car that offers well balanced handling in a RWD chassis so you can have fun cornering and drifting but not for power. The std spec is only around 200HP/200nm, 0-100kph in about 7-8secs, so it's not that fast but not that slow either. However when marketed here, it's way overpriced at about rm240k hence only real hardcore rich enthusiasts would buy them. Anyway the second hand prices or recon prices are already dropping quite a lot whereby you can get 1 for around rm120-130k. Then if you do want more power, there are plenty of turbo/supercharger kits to boost it up as long as you have the money and the will. I personally like this car too but would never buy it at the current price level, maybe later once it drops below 100k. laugh.gif

QUOTE(wk_edifire @ Jun 6 2016, 07:24 PM)
Bcoz Nissan GT-R nicer
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It's not meant to compete with GTR in the first place, totally different market segment.

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post Jun 12 2016, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Jun 6 2016, 09:10 PM)
Well if u look at it in a different perspective its actually not that expensive although its around 240k if im not mistaken. With 240k u can get a car that handles so well on the road in terms of balance and u cant get a car that will drive like a gt86. But if you only want power and class you'd be better off with the germans! But in my honest opinion the engine is a little bit underpowered and it needs more torque. But u can always install aftermarket mods on your car!
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In Malaysia it is quote with sort of premium price. While is US it is in affordable price range. Yes it could due to tax related.

But most don't want to spend this car price with less than 200hp? 197hp I guess is the hp quote by Toyota

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Jun 12 2016, 12:35 PM
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post Jun 12 2016, 07:17 PM

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no point buying it new, if u really wanna buy... get recon manual

this car in stock form has a torque dip, u will see it in dyno between 3400 to 4500 rpm
u need to remap its ecu and change its exhaust header to fix it
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post Jun 12 2016, 08:13 PM

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Really like this car . After some time doing research on forum / youtube , i can summarise that this car is good at handling but lack in power/speed ( likely u need to mod it somehow ) .
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post Jun 13 2016, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 12 2016, 12:33 PM)
In Malaysia it is quote with sort of premium price. While is US it is in affordable price range. Yes it could due to tax related.

But most don't want to spend this car price with less than 200hp? 197hp I guess is the hp quote by Toyota
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hahaha malaysia tax abit crazy one la.. but no choice haha. But for me if i have 200+ k to spend on a proper driver's car i'll definitely choose the lotus. Pure driving pleasure! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jun 14 2016, 10:02 AM

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for me it's overpriced but not too much. can't expect it to be priced 150k. 190k - 210k seems reasonable enough instead of 240k. the thing is this car is for the niche market. most of the fans are young people thus most don't have a budget for it. that's why it's rare. if you're talking about overpriced it's the mustang. they could've sold 2.3 ecobeast at golf R or at most A45 price instead of 400k. mad.gif
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post Jun 14 2016, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(a.h.wan @ Jun 14 2016, 10:02 AM)
for me it's overpriced but not too much. can't expect it to be priced 150k. 190k - 210k seems reasonable enough instead of 240k. the thing is this car is for the niche market. most of the fans are young people thus most don't have a budget for it. that's why it's rare. if you're talking about overpriced it's the mustang. they could've sold 2.3 ecobeast at golf R or at most A45 price instead of 400k. mad.gif
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post Jun 14 2016, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(theanswer @ Jun 7 2016, 10:38 AM)
downside of this car is the price. but those who talk about its power..easily kene tapau..definitely didnt know what is 86 all about. u think ori hachi roku got lots of power ka?
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Actually most people know its not about its power. It's the action and result which hurts. The reality is, most Malaysian drivers can only push their cars (and ego too) on highway. Want or not this gt86 got tapau by bigger CC cars.

Yes 86 is all about drivability and cornering etc...but how frequent does an average Msian has the chance to drive downhill routes in their daily lives? doh.gif
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post Jun 14 2016, 09:44 PM

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For me I love the GT86/BRZ/FRS platform. It isn't known for it's speed, but known for it's ride and handling. Go ask any Miata owner in Malaysia, they don't look at the Miata for speed, but for sheer driving pleasure. If too slow, forced induction je. Malaysian's mindset is that they love to judge cars by their power output, not by it's intended purpose.

note: no, I don't drive a gt86 but would love to own one
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Jun 14 2016, 07:47 PM)
Actually most people know its not about its power. It's the action and result which hurts. The reality is, most Malaysian drivers can only push their cars (and ego too) on highway. Want or not this gt86 got tapau by bigger CC cars.

Yes 86 is all about drivability and cornering etc...but how frequent does an average Msian has the chance to drive downhill routes in their daily lives? doh.gif
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well, to those who knows rides or love the pureness of driving pleasure. I know a lot of ppl diss this GT86 for the lack of vrrooom/oppphh. Almost everytime the conversation about what car next with them and when the 86 is brought up, lack of power, too expensive etc shakehead.gif


well, i know tengku djan drove the GT68 with time of 2'38+- on track (i believe its pretty stock, no BFW or force inductions). I'm told there are people who dont believe it can be done.


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post Jun 15 2016, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(GalaxiasWilliam @ Jun 14 2016, 09:44 PM)
For me I love the GT86/BRZ/FRS platform. It isn't known for it's speed, but known for it's ride and handling. Go ask any Miata owner in Malaysia, they don't look at the Miata for speed, but for sheer driving pleasure. If too slow, forced induction je. Malaysian's mindset is that they love to judge cars by their power output, not by it's intended purpose.

note: no, I don't drive a gt86 but would love to own one
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Totally agree with you. If want power and speed better get a 250cc bike, it will tabao most cars on the road.
GT86 spirit is all about skill, like mentioned in Initial D.
By the way, ask Toyota sales guy already. They still accept booking for Prius C (RM150k) but not GT86 anymore. We can go for used or recond units only.
I would like to own one too!
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post Jun 15 2016, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(aragongon @ Jun 15 2016, 07:02 PM)
Totally agree with you. If want power and speed better get a 250cc bike, it will tabao most cars on the road.
GT86 spirit is all about skill, like mentioned in Initial D.
By the way, ask Toyota sales guy already. They still accept booking for Prius C (RM150k) but not GT86 anymore. We can go for used or recond units only.
I would like to own one too!
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If I ever ikat perut and sell kidney, I'll go for recond units anyways. But just last year I check the price for 2013 unit is 140k, now it rise to 150k cry.gif bye.gif

 

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