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post Jan 12 2007, 04:52 PM, updated 19y ago

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This is just a very small matter waiting to settle. But he login LYN few times a day. PMed him many many times did not reply. So no other choice to complain here.
I bought a DFI NF4 Infinity Non-Ultra from him on Nov 8 2006. Paid on the same day RM200 for item and RM15 for Poslaju. On the Nov 10 he sms me with a Poslaju tracking number before I request for it. So I thought he's a good seller then never check the tracking number online. Then the next day not arrive. I checked the tracking number online. It's received. But not to me. The number is for a parcel sent to other people in other state.
So I called him up to ask if he sent the thing. He said need to check. Then told me found my tracking number. Guess what? A valid Poslaju tracking number but no record found. Appear to be a fresh Poslaju slip. Then again he said made a mistake and will send mine on 11th Nov. Should arrive on 12th Nov for Poslaju(Yeah it was Sunday but here is one of the special states that Poslaju working on Sunday close on Friday). Even Poslaju from Kuching also reach me the next day. But on 13th Nov I still haven't received the thing. Ask him again he said already sent on 11th and easily said can refund me if not arrive in 2 days.(why? because he didn't even send out the thing yet) Then on the 14th parcel finally arrived. Clearly stated on the Poslaju slip the parcel was sent on 13th Nov. So why have to lie sent on 11th? Fine! It did arrive so I nvm that.

Before confirm purchase I asked him about the mobo condition. He said the mobo was RMAed and replace with a NEW mobo. So the one sold to me is NEW mobo. Yeah rite. NEW mobo with a dusty chipset fan and oxidized metal parts of the back I/O(sound, PS/2, Parallel port part there) Tested running ok so this part I nvm also.
He sent me the mobo without the back I/O metal plate. Without the plate my com will suck in lots of dust from there. Cockroaches, lizards will go in from there. So I PMed him he said gotta find it. Took 2 days to find then on the 16th Nov replied PM said he found it and will send later. I told him he just need to buy a PosExpress envelope and drop the thing in and send. Since I paid him RM15 for Poslaju then the parcel postage cost only RM7.88. Even after Posexpress he still gain extra. Then I keep waiting and waiting. PMs after PMs never reply but logon few times a day. Until 11th December! I PMed him again and told him it's a tiny matter. If I open a settle thread in trade dispute corner ppl might laugh at me. But if he leave me no choice I will have to settle here also. Then the same day he replied PM : "bro, sorry for late reply, tmr i sure post, gv me more 2 days " Waited 4 days nothing arrived then PM him again. Then on 18th he only reply PM said the thing return to him again ask me to give him my address agian. Gave him on the same day.
Since then PM him many times. No reply at all until 2 days ago i PMed him to give him a 24 hours notice before I post this thread. 2 days passed no reply at all. Still login daily. Until today the mobo still in box waiting for the plate to install.

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post Jan 12 2007, 05:18 PM

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i rather pay u back RM15
how?

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post Jan 12 2007, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 12 2007, 05:18 PM)
i rather pay u back RM15
how?
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That's no solved his prob bro... what he want is the IO back plate pane... i think rm15 is not a matter with him... furthermore he afford to pay u more if u r sincered in dealing...

that my 10cent la... mega_shok.gif
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post Jan 12 2007, 05:26 PM

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ok, gv me one more week, i try my best to looking another IO back plate pane for u, jz tell u the true, i lost the IOback plate pane.
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post Jan 12 2007, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 12 2007, 05:26 PM)
ok, gv me one more week, i try my best to looking another IO back plate pane for u, jz tell u the true, i lost the IOback plate pane.
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if that is the case, u should have been honest to him b4 he purchase the product..
it could have save all the trouble...
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post Jan 12 2007, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 12 2007, 05:26 PM)
ok, gv me one more week, i try my best to looking another IO back plate pane for u, jz tell u the true, i lost the IOback plate pane.
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then you should tell him the truth that you've lost the panel rather than give him few fake hopes and ignore his pm-es. this is not an ethical of a seller should have. smile.gif
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post Jan 12 2007, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jan 12 2007, 05:37 PM)
then you should tell him the truth that you've lost the panel rather than give him few fake hopes and ignore his pm-es. this is not an ethical of a seller should have. smile.gif
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nope, i forgot to post out in together when i sent the mobo to him.
the io back plate pane still in my hand but i lost it
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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 12 2007, 05:50 PM)
nope, i forgot to post out in together when i sent the mobo to him.
the io back plate pane still in my hand but i lost it
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Then it is you're mistake, why didn't you tell that earlier?
I don't think you need 1 to 2 weeks to identify the i/o panel is lost, no?

Admin, this is my opinion, as to force this guy to solve this problem without making anymore delay, give him a dispute tag, he clearly trying to avoid sending that item to the buyer, and clearly avoiding being honest that the i/o panel was lost...

This shows that he's truely irresponsible, i suggest give him a dispute tag for now...
Don't remove it until he keeps his promise, and until the right i/o panel is given to the buyer...

gozila84, this is a lesson to you.

Shame on you'reself!! mad.gif

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To gozila84:
Don't even think of giving anymore lame excuses in this topic, solve the problem you've given to the threadstarter or you'll face the consequences... laugh.gif
**Psst: If you think i'm joking, then go ahead... whistling.gif

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Jan 12 2007, 06:08 PM
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post Jan 12 2007, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 12 2007, 06:03 PM)
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Dispute Tag is given to those who failed to respond to the complaint. He's responding and at least he admitted his fault. Give him some time to get the I/O plate back


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post Jan 12 2007, 06:13 PM

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Okay then, let's give him some time, but to my opinion, give him just a week...
If he goes more than that, then he's just trying to find another lame excuses to answer to this topic...

gozila84, stop reading this topic now, and go find the i/o panel immediately, by reading this topic, you are making the buyer more mad, and making him lose more time waiting for the i/o panel...

Start looking for the I/O panel now... whistling.gif

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More proof of him being an irresponsible seller:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9064146

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post Jan 12 2007, 06:16 PM

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ok stop posting and give him 1 week time....

if cannot either refund or something.

but stop all the comment for the time being


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post Jan 12 2007, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 12 2007, 06:13 PM)
Okay then, let's give him some time, but to my opinion, give him just a week...
If he goes more than that, then he's just trying to find another lame excuses to answer to this topic...

gozila84, stop reading this topic now, and go find the i/o panel immediately, by reading this topic, you are making the buyer more mad, and making him lose more time waiting for the i/o panel...

Start looking for the I/O panel now... whistling.gif

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More proof of him being an irresponsible seller:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9064146
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so?
if the buyer dont like, i willing make full payment to him, jz return the mobo to me.
so wat?
i jz need a week so slove this.
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post Jan 12 2007, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 12 2007, 07:33 PM)
so?
if the buyer dont like, i willing make full payment to him, jz return the mobo to me.
so wat?
i jz need a week so slove this.
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That shows the stupidity on you, don't you understand what's the original problem here?

The original problem is, why didn't you be honest, and tell seeseng that the i/o panel is lost in the first place?

And, why did you lie to him saying that the motherboard is new?

The big question is: WHY DID YOU LIE???

Owh comeon man, do you think by making refund will solve everything?
No it doesn't, why? because u can't run from the facts that you are an irresponsible seller...

I can't believe a guy that is 1 year older than me can't use his head fully enough to think what he have done to the buyer... shakehead.gif
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post Jan 15 2007, 01:50 AM

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Problem solved??

Pls stop all the bullshits,no point crapping on the fact or whatsoever.First he told that the IO panel was with him but forgot to include it and second he lost it.Now he cannot or don't have the IO plate anymore therefore,i suggest gozila84 to refund some money for the IO plate IF seeseng agree,else refund the RM200 and take back your motherboard.Also gozila84 should cover the shipping from seeseng to gozila84.This may settle the problem.

gozila84,take this as a lesson.Never lie,cheat on anything.
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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 12 2007, 07:33 PM)
so?
if the buyer dont like, i willing make full payment to him, jz return the mobo to me.
so wat?
i jz need a week so slove this.
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how do you know you will take 1 week to solve? You are always giving false dateline and never to live up to it. Why another 1 week now? What if you can't solve it in 1 week? Another 1 more week? You must start changing that type of attitude. Or else no on will trust you anymore even your real life friends.

Either make it or break it.

Oh btw, attention to buyer. If seller willing to refund (which is a good gesture), don't send the motherboard back first. Let him refund you the money first then only sent the board. Or else he will pull his "give me 1 week to solve" excuse.

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aiyah..he is the winner for my xp90..
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...=0#entry9906097

but he hasnt reply my pm yet.. sweat.gif
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post Jan 16 2007, 02:00 PM

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Lets hope you can be trusted , lying like that ain't good for your reputation. You are allowed to redeem your self *smile*
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post Jan 17 2007, 01:16 PM

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If Mr. Ong still cannot find the suitable I/O plate after 1 week as the date he promised. I request for a full refund of RM215. That's the amount I've paid him. I'll Poslaju back the mobo to him after he bank in the money to me. Poslaju on me. Always lost this lost that. Even 1 day after Poslaju can "lost" the tracking number.
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seeseng, still no updates?
Has gozila84 already contacted you about the problem?
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another problem of IO panel.....

lying is a bad thing, if you forgot to send parcel just say forget ler
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 17 2007, 10:19 PM)
seeseng, still no updates?
Has gozila84 already contacted you about the problem?
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Nope. No news from him since his last message posted here. No PM at all from him since I started this thread. Just hope he can find a match panel for the mobo.
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QUOTE(seeseng @ Jan 18 2007, 01:38 AM)
Nope. No news from him since his last message posted here. No PM at all from him since I started this thread. Just hope he can find a match panel for the mobo.
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Have you tried calling him?
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post Jan 18 2007, 09:21 AM

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jzfind the i/o plate pane, sending today
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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 18 2007, 09:21 AM)
jzfind the i/o plate pane, sending today
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That's good, TS please update us once you've received the I/O plate smile.gif

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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 18 2007, 09:21 AM)
jzfind the i/o plate pane, sending today
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Good news to TS...
Im respect if u r responding in what u have dealed... nod.gif
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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 18 2007, 09:21 AM)
jzfind the i/o plate pane, sending today
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Boy, you better be honest, if you lie again, you are so busted, and you will face the consequences...

If you lie again, you will feel the wrath of our admins!!! bruce.gif

Muahahahaha... mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 18 2007, 10:27 AM)
Boy, you better be honest, if you lie again, you are so busted, and you will face the consequences...

If you lie again, you will feel the wrath of our admins!!! bruce.gif

Muahahahaha... mega_shok.gif
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then ban me
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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 18 2007, 09:21 AM)
jzfind the i/o plate pane, sending today
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For NF4 Infinity? Don't just send me any I/O plate panel.
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yes, i bought that from ohter as RM30
totally same as the mobo
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Thread Cleaned
sootienann - Don't post if you got nothing useful to contribute
gozila84 - How bout snapping a pic of the I/O plate for seeseng to look at

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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 18 2007, 10:31 AM)
then ban me
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What's this?
Don't be rude boy, the way you're talking is like you're not accepting you're own mistake.
You are still a new member in this forum, you've done you're mistake, then accept it...

Capiche?
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 18 2007, 11:02 AM)
What's this?
Don't be rude boy, the way you're talking is like you're not accepting you're own mistake.
You are still a new member in this forum, you've done you're mistake, then accept it...

Capiche?
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if i dont accept my mistake i wont take any action for the trade.
come on, if u want to disturb go to disturb other ppl who r con. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 18 2007, 12:02 PM)
if i dont accept my mistake i wont take any action for the trade.
come on, if u want to disturb go to disturb other ppl who r con. whistling.gif
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I'm not here to disturb la you kiddo...
I'm here to set things right...

If you accept you're mistake, then you wouldn't talk that way...

You lied, you're not being honest & you've given a big trouble to the buyer.
That's why...
Understood?

Heh, what did you say?
You take action on the trade? I'm gonna laugh on this... laugh.gif

Yeah, you did take action... BUT AFTER 2 MONTHS!!!
And you call youreself a responsible seller? doh.gif

Pfft...
Whatever kiddo... laugh.gif

I suggest that this kiddo should be given a prize of a "Bad Trader" tag thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 18 2007, 12:20 PM)
I'm not here to disturb la you kiddo...
I'm here to set things right...

If you accept you're mistake, then you wouldn't talk that way...

You lied, you're not being honest & you've given a big trouble to the buyer.
That's why...
Understood?

Heh, what did you say?
You take action on the trade? I'm gonna laugh on this... laugh.gif

Yeah, you did take action... BUT AFTER 2 MONTHS!!!
And you call youreself a responsible seller? doh.gif

Pfft...
Whatever kiddo... laugh.gif

I suggest that this kiddo should be given a prize of a "Bad Trader" tag thumbup.gif
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watever u talk,
so wat?
i dont mind i will list in Bad Trader, at least i never con him for bad mobo.

once u become the moderator,
i sure listen wat u say, now u jz talk cock. whistling.gif cool.gif

*moderator, delete my word

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post Jan 18 2007, 07:01 PM

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gozila84 just PMed me a Poslaju tracking number. Horray~ for him. RM30 instead of have to pay RM215 to "swallow" back the dirty fan & oxidized "NEW" mobo. laugh.gif
In return I've remove his nick/name from my signature.

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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 18 2007, 12:29 PM)
watever u talk,
so wat?
i dont mind i will list in Bad Trader, at least i never con him for bad mobo.

once u become the moderator,
i sure listen wat u say, now u jz talk cock. whistling.gif cool.gif 

*moderator, delete my word
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you still need some attitude adjustment, moderator or not, respect all members.....
of course you don't care ban or not, can simply create another account......
and remember MODERATORS were NORMAL MEMBERS once
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 18 2007, 09:34 PM)
you still need some attitude adjustment, moderator or not, respect all members.....
of course you don't care ban or not, can simply create another account......
and remember MODERATORS were NORMAL MEMBERS once
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Do you think that gozila84 @ big liar will even listen to that?
No he won't...

He's so full of himself @ hardheaded...

Moderators doesn't mean they are god, they are just moderators for this forum...

Just like what deric88 says there, you really need an attitude adjustment... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(seeseng @ Jan 18 2007, 07:01 PM)
gozila84 just PMed me a Poslaju tracking number. Horray~ for him. RM30 instead of have to pay RM215 to "swallow" back the dirty fan & oxidized "NEW" mobo. laugh.gif
In return I've remove his nick/name from my signature.
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Update us once u've received the item in good condition.

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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 18 2007, 09:34 PM)
you still need some attitude adjustment, moderator or not, respect all members.....
of course you don't care ban or not, can simply create another account......
and remember MODERATORS were NORMAL MEMBERS once
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thx for advice smile.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 18 2007, 11:55 PM)
Do you think that gozila84 @ big liar will even listen to that?
No he won't...

He's so full of himself @ hardheaded...

Moderators doesn't mean they are god, they are just moderators for this forum...

Just like what deric88 says there, you really need an attitude adjustment... shakehead.gif
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wat response i suppose to gv u?
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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 19 2007, 10:08 AM)
wat response i suppose to gv u?
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just tolerate with flames..... if you can't say something good, just don't reply to the flame, i also kena flame already many times, just don't care, take what you can from their words...others just leave,
and WTH, i becoming temper control consultant??? me myself having bad temper........

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Guys, stop spamming if you have nothing useful to contribute. Don't flame each other. Get back to the topic

gozila84 has posted the I/O plate to seeseng, we shall wait for seeseng to receive the item and update us about it.


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waiting for the update news
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seeseng, pls update the thread, i believed u hv recieved ur item alr.
PM u for several times alr.
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QUOTE(gozila84 @ Jan 23 2007, 09:04 PM)
seeseng, pls update the thread, i believed u hv recieved ur item alr.
PM u for several times alr.
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perhaps you can drop him a sms to check whether he received it or not smile.gif



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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Jan 23 2007, 09:07 PM)
perhaps you can drop him a sms to check whether he received  it or not smile.gif
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i hv no save his hp number, so i cant sms him now.
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QUOTE(bombman @ Jan 24 2007, 02:23 AM)
Just helping here since seeseng is 1 of the best forumers I've evr known, here's his hp no :

012 XXXXXXX
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I've invisibled your post with his contact number. i guess it'll be more polite you could PM gozila84 seeseng's contact number rather then releasing it to public(some people might get irritated) smile.gif

Anyway i've PM-ed gozila84 seeseng's contact number(thanks to bombman)

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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Jan 24 2007, 02:31 AM)
I've invisibled his contact number. It'll be more polite you could PM gozila84 seeseng's contact number smile.gif

Anyway i've PM-ed gozila84 seeseng's contact number(thanks to bombman)
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Thx dude...just wanted c this issue settled nicely. After all it shouldnt hav even cropped in 1st place
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QUOTE(bombman @ Jan 24 2007, 02:33 AM)
Thx dude...just wanted c this issue settled nicely. After all it shouldnt hav even cropped in 1st place
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thx for helpin, but he hvn reply my sms yet.
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seeseng, i knew that u hv on9, pls settle the problem asap
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I can wait for you to settle for 2 months. Can't you wait 2 days? Yes I purposely delay the settlement of this thread. So you feel the 1/30 tension of what I felt for the last 2 months? Panel received. Case considered settled lah.
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post Jan 25 2007, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Jan 25 2007, 01:03 AM)
I can wait for you to settle for 2 months. Can't you wait 2 days? Yes I purposely delay the settlement of this thread. So you feel the 1/30 tension of what I felt for the last 2 months? 
That's very childish of you

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Panel received. Case considered settled lah.
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