what do you think?

1. comfort - civic
2. NVH - civic
3. boot space ( i dont need third row alza) - ?? civic boot around 400++ litre. alza dunno after the third row seat lipat.
4. maintenance - alza
5. durability - civic

how much is the cost for 17" tyre?

am i making right decision

civic second hand would be 2012. around 65K
alza highest spec after discount around 61k.


http://www.mudah.my/2012+Honda+Civic+1+8+A...EL-46417944.htm

This post has been edited by saigetsu: Jun 3 2016, 08:48 AM

I hate civic, but alza vs civic? Oh come onnnnnn *blonde bimbo style*

5 years warranty vs u better know what u r doing when pop the hood.

sadly im not. but civic is reliable car yes?

Alza

Why not just buy brand new honda city ? Too small?

yes. n mahal. my budget 65k ish

If it 8gen 2.0 civic, take it.

2nd hand for any Honda cars is a big NO NO.
go ask any honda owner about its maintenance cost.

Alza

new preve 10k discount 3 years free service include consumable part and 5 years warranty on car and also life time warranty on power windows

Honda parts not cheap meh?

Kakakakakakakaka

i will never eveere touch proton.

it could be more reliable but wear and tear parts is still going to cost more

if 65K is your max you probably should get Alza, brand new with warranty
have to spare at least 5K for Civic

better save a little bit more for a new City, but you probably not interested since you didnt consider used City


logic wise Alza, ikut hati Civic

alza easier to drive

mana godcar?

Quite reliable n comfort. Just make sure u have "reliable" workshop for wear n tear maintenance.

If 65k ish is mahal, are u sure u can afford to maintain a honda civic? Not to mention the fuel consumption..

that kind of cheap....but honda don built car like they used to anymore.....

You can get the new alza or new rio sedan with that budget.

dont get city/civic, get Accord instead

http://www.mudah.my/HONDA+ACCORD+2+0+VTiL+...10-46390695.htm

http://www.mudah.my/2010+Honda+Accord+2+0+...er-45629682.htm

i know tyre gonna cost me more
other than that, higher price beause its honda.

fuel consumption last time i check slightly higher or more or less the same to myvi. (SERIOUS)
myvi 13km/l civic 12km/l

im also stuck between these two
how bout reliability and comfort for long distance travel?
say KL to kedah?

In Nov 2015, I sold 1.8l Civic yr2012 for 63k!

Highway maybe yes.. once in a traffic jam, its still a 2liter engine.. get ready for 10km/l..

U need to think other wear and tear..
Shocks..
Brake pads..
And other consumables..
And if/when it breaks down because of some sensor problems..

C segment stuff always cost more..

This post has been edited by khairilyazit: Jun 3 2016, 09:08 AM

It is 2012 civic. Not 2012 proton.

What wear and tear do have with that few yrs car ?

oh not on the road price ka?

godcar>all

get a second hand vios better

Yeah.. dont forget to bring that civic to change the airbags..
Typical malaysian..
Depends on the mileage..
U service your car depending on years is it?

Its already a 4 year car.. at least 80k km mileage... call and ask honda what needs to be changed at 80k, 90k, and 100k..

Oh.. i just drive a proton.. ill shut up.

This post has been edited by khairilyazit: Jun 3 2016, 09:16 AM

Why your civic price so low?

Is it 9gen civic ?

preve

At least need to prepare around 5k to fully maintain and repair the car full tip top undercarriage condition. Bushing, shock and maybe new under paint.

This post has been edited by makky: Jun 3 2016, 09:20 AM

What is wrong have a new airbag for free? And hope they said need to change the engine too.

You using your proton experience and talk about civic quality?

Don't compare japanese with malaysia
parts reliability jauh beza
of cos price also jauh beza

these days the market flooded with fake parts until i dunno which Myvi or Alza parts that one came from. Used for a while, break again

Civic parts cost at least 2x of perodua.

honda brake pad original already rm300 before installation. u go buy those konon racing pads or aftermarket one cheaper by 50%, but makan your disc then you complain why need to go skim the disc because you brake the steering shudder

follow ur affordability rate. you can pay installment, make sure can pay maintenance too.

I shut up.
Give TS a ride in ur civic la then.. so he can experience it..

If not. Pot calling kettle black.

http://www.honda.com.my/service_maintenanc...ntenance/?id=16

already give u the full menu although ranciao service center always charge more than the statement menu. the only thing i hate about honda is the ranciao service center.
service 1 cb car takes 1 whole fucking day

cannot afford to servis dun buy pls

looks bloody affordable maintenance for a civic, 10k interval

Biarlah

VW owner also get their DSG upgraded annually

my fren using civic FD. Now he pening with the maintenance costs. So many things kaput. The car i think is about 7 years old

that car before facelift?

my one is after facelift 6 years old, 90k mileage

the only thing i changes was:

1) Bushing, rear left and rear right


I think most of the ppl complain manyak problem is before facelift, the round shape headlights

mine i bought new, until today things still running fine

tayar also i changed once only from original, 90k mileage only 1 round tayar change

came with Michelle Pilot Sport, change back to Pilot sport

whatever came with it, i just change back to original. Just like new.


I think i have the least item changed in a civic for a 90k mileage car.

I drive proton before. I drive Honda before.

yes, the one with round tail lights.

Last 2 years he got problem with driveshaft or something, cant remember

then just this week he said got some leak somewhere and another thing i cant remember

u probably cry at C segment stuck in traffic jam if you compare like that


for car average user, usually fifth year onward many parts need to replace
those stretching themselves will have hard time, imagine parts replacement every 1-2 month if unlucky

Not bad.. at least not like proton punya transmission fluid change.. damn.. 500++ for fluids+filter.. not including labor.. thanks punch.. whats with the rm300 fuel strainer? Fuel filter is it?

Drive or own?
Two different things..
Ive driven, proton, honda, hyundai, inokom, ford, toyota, daihatsu, perodua..

I only own and maintain proton and perodua though..
Sorry if im below ur level.

This post has been edited by khairilyazit: Jun 3 2016, 09:53 AM

If thats the only 2 choice u had in mind, I'll choose the Civic. 1 year down the road, both are used cars. 1 is used Civic another is used Alza.

Civic's are usually reliable unless u get into a lemon unit. A 2012 civic would still be servicing in Honda sc and still under some warranty. Good enough for me

Of course Civic's maintenance would be higher compared to the Alza. Sames goes to wear and tear.

This post has been edited by Vinci777: Jun 3 2016, 09:53 AM

Yup. Called and confirm. Cb. X merasa la honda like this

Honda have 5 year warranty? If the service record is not good, bye bye warranty..

And is it transferable to new owner?

I bought alza with no regret...

1) huge boot space, i am in retail line, so its a must... how big? I once fetched a 6 feet dinner table and chairs

2) petrol saving.. was driving my gf myvi before i bought mine, more or less same consumption.

3) "sleeping" mode, 3 rows of chairs can fold into a sleeping lazy chairs, used it numerous time in genting or before hiking..

4) less impact when others crash from behind.
Once kena langgar dari belakang, that car was speeding without brake, mabuk you know who, his tyres 180 degree turned, repaired almost 4k with his insurance... minimal impact felt during impact

The only set back was power windows, i "exercise" all 4 of them everyday but recently passenger side intermittently fail...

My alza is 3+ years old

why not suprima?


Proton Suprima S 1.6 (A) CVT TURBO DISPLAY UNIT
48k..

for normal drive only buy alza

Civic 1.8 cannot fold down rear seats, quite a deal breaker for me.

I'd get Alza, TS. Way more practical, and cheaper to maintain. Road tax also RM90 vs Civic 1.8 RM280++

u better know what u r doing when pop the hood.

The current FB have but its worth to check out as I'm not sure what offers the buyer get in 2012. I've seen ppl claim warranties on 2nd hand cars so I guess the warranty should goes to the car.

All in all, buying a used car need to really check thoroughly especially service record and verify with the service centers themselves.

I'm guessing then the Civic is 2009/2010 FD2?

when ur are on budget to buy any car..i always advise them to buy new car with warranty.unless u got sekenhen car by cash

New alza vs used civic? Better new.

Personally would recommend to get at least a 2013 or 2014 FB.

Never go for a used FD, FD will give you headache unless you are a enthusiast (FD2R) and you know what you are getting yourself into. Yes, I used to drove FD2R for quite sometime, sold it off last year.

13~14'ish FB is currently one of the most less headache honda cars on the market now (14~16, with insights from honda SA).

Not sure about the current FC (10th gen) tho, but my insight said that is not really a worth to whoo-haa for, not really that big of a improvement in terms of overall build.

Walau, i see the FD is RV king, 10 year old car still go for rm60k on mudah for 2.0, crazy. I cannot brain paying that much for merely 10 year old civic.

Can share what issues u faced with your FD?

Your point civic won 3/5

Still need answer?

u dont need 3rd row, why choose alza? Myvi la

Owner here.
Why?
The maintenance arent expensive unless is major maintanence which normally around 1.2k(aircond filter those)

But 65k isnt a big number for u rite..