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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.13, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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okuribito
post Jun 23 2016, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Jun 23 2016, 06:55 PM)
Sorry, I looked and searched, can't seem to locate any earlier answer:

MBB GIA-i, "Rate as declared on maturity date" 

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What does this rate refer to or affect? Is it the redemption rate ie on principal?

I get the impression from those who have been using GIA for short term "pocket money" that they get back their principal sum at 100%. Is that what u are referring to? I was also concerned because i remember they say something like redemption of the units at manager's quote/rate on redemption date (what I remember only & maybe not their exact words)

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post Jun 23 2016, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jun 23 2016, 08:15 PM)
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Bro, u miss out post talking about this issue few weeks back. The 7th mth 4.5% issue is NOT related to branch. One other forummer who has more than 1 placement on the same day said one of the placement on the 7th mth received 4.5% while another one received 4%. It is due to the coding error that the counter done wrongly in the MBB system.

As I said MBB has acknowledeged their error. Groups of people from my branch affected but probably some or most do not know unless they do the calculation and check the monthly interest.

The amount I placed is RM37k.

Thanks for your offer. I have been calculating the monthly interest exact to the last 3 digit of decimal points.  tongue.gif
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post Jun 23 2016, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 23 2016, 07:12 PM)
Are you refering to eGIA-i or the GIA-i?
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sorry to ask... i only went for the 4.5% effective rate offer last Oct. Is that GIA-i? Is eGIA-i the online version giving 4% now? If I go to counter now, can still get GIA-i? I don't expect 4.5% lar... got 4% also? TIA
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post Jun 24 2016, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jun 24 2016, 12:36 AM)
For STEP-UP type FD promotions, the effective rate quoted is a simplification. The actual effective rate depends on the particular month and whether you placed on the 29, 30 or 31.
ACTUAL accurate effective rate is the sum of the interests for each step period (number of days in step period / 365 x % step rate /100 x principal) divided by principal and multiplied by 365 / total number of days.
The SIMPLIFIED inaccurate effective rate used by the banks is calculated as if all the months have the same number of days, and the date near the month end does not matter at all.  imho, banks cannot tell us our true effective rate unless they know exact date of the placement. you are right to assess it based on the total smile.gif
For Maybank, the divisor is 365 or 366 depending on which year is involved for the December and January portions.
For those who qualify or get monthly payment of interests, you need to take into account that the bank needs to pay each month for those who did not avoid the 29, 30 and 31.
As for problems with rounding treatments, the simplest way out is to choose a multiple of 365 (or 366 for Maybank in 2016 tenor) which will give a fixed amount per day. For example Affin, rate 4.5%, principal 36,500, will give interest of 4.50 per day. Note that this calculation trick can work for any length of time except at Maybank on a leap year.
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thumbsup.gif for taking the time to write that LOL

That's a good approach to use 36.500 principal for non-leap years. For maybank, how do you approach the issue where your 12mth term straddles a leap year? Which is what would happen in 99.9% of the time ... unless you place on 1/1/2016 smile.gif To me diff is immaterial but for others it might be significant. Curious

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post Jun 25 2016, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jun 24 2016, 11:33 PM)
How low can you go anyway? Does it really have any useful good effect or will it create other unintended ill effects? Why not just bankrupt the banking industry by making sure less funds remain in the country in the name of helping the economy?
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I suppose you're referring to what BNM will do, aren't you?

Interesting times. Just hope we don't go into negative rates rclxub.gif but who knows???

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In December, the Federal Reserve projected that it would raise rates four times this year -- a strong sign that the U.S. economy has recovered from the Great Recession. Higher interest rates benefit savers, who can make more money on deposits.

But by June, several Fed committee members were only calling for one rate hike in the wake of weak growth and slowing job gains.

If the volatility in markets from Brexit continues, and if U.S. consumers pare back spending, and employers slow down hiring even more, the Fed could be looking at zero rate hikes in 2016. In fact, markets are starting to increase their expectations for a rate cut this year.

It's not how the Federal Reserve had planned the year to unfold. U.S. central bank officials had started the year with high expectations after raising rates in December for the first time in nearly a decade, also known as "liftoff."

But instead, the Fed is coming back down to earth. Other central banks around the world have lowered rates into negative territory and the conversation has shifted to whether the Fed should consider that move too.


from http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/24/investing/...global-economy/
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post Jul 3 2016, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ah SiAnG @ Jul 3 2016, 09:49 AM)
Deal Hunter For Interbank Giro(IBG) & Interbank Fund Tranfer(IBFT) discussion, please proceed to this thread https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1985221 and not here.

This thread is strictly for Fixed Deposit Rates discussion. Thank you.
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hahahaha but when people want to discuss how rates will move, also cannot hahaha

this guy is giving valuable information about how to do things. a bit wordy. but valuable ideas. imho many ppl put off. if put off, then just dun read lah. why chase ppl away?

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post Jul 3 2016, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Jul 3 2016, 06:46 PM)
hahahaha but when people want to discuss how rates will move, also cannot hahaha

this guy is giving valuable information about how to do things. a bit wordy. but valuable ideas. imho many ppl put off. if put off, then just dun read lah. why chase ppl away?
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hahahaha i got reported for this post rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

damn lah, i forgot that FD Rates no longer managed by Gen-X. Miss those days sad.gif

Back then, I guess because he was the thread starter nobody told him to go to ibg thread to discuss ibg & rentas & whatever other fund transfer methods ... and he did talk and shared info about them in the FD Rates thread. hahaha i guess only because he was the thread starter???

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...ts&highlite=ibg

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post Jul 6 2016, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(poor man @ Jul 6 2016, 05:38 PM)
Get proof kfh fd cert 6 mth 4.25%
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hahahaha u actually take the trouble to cut little pieces of paper to protect privacy rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Because they give the interest upfront, so the harga belian & jualan will be the same lah, is it?

KFH under PIDM or not?

QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 6 2016, 06:06 PM)
I am PB with them oo.. that time was 3.85 per year.. consider very high tat time..
So the 3.85% that i placed, i ask for free gift.. they say sudah promo, u mau gift lagi[B]? No gift ror promo rate....

Tat time i see many member here, got hamper la, got pen la, got all kind of stuff..

Sigh... PB customer... get ntg...

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if i were u, i tell them go fly kite oredi mad.gif how can they treat PB customer like dat???

QUOTE(poor man @ Jul 6 2016, 06:14 PM)
wo..! pb customer
i no pb customer also can get gift...
my gift....
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poor man? can get so many ipad air??? change lah to hnwman. hahaha why u rub bonescythe like that

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post Jul 13 2016, 05:14 PM

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0.25% cut takes us back to jul 2014. back then best rates for 12 mths were sub4%

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post Jul 13 2016, 05:22 PM

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For Malaysia, domestic demand continues to be the main driver of growth.

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Inflation was lower as the impact from the Goods and Services Tax (GST) implemented in April 2015 lapsed and is expected to remain stable in an environment of low global energy and commodity prices and generally subdued global inflation.

Consequently, inflation is projected to be lower at 2% to 3% in 2016, compared to an earlier projection of 2.5% to 3.5%, and continue to remain stable in 2017.

if rate increase domestic demand aka consumption can be affected. which leads to less gst collection hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

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post Jul 13 2016, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 13 2016, 07:14 PM)
Luckily I moved out of FD.  rclxm9.gif
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doh.gif how is this lucky? is FD like a bad company on the stock market? where u made a correct bad news call on it and sold early?

imho makes more sense if u say luckily locked in 12 mth or longer period at pre-cut promo rates >4% eg pbb ave 4.25% or KFH or what's the other bank offering 2yr fd

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post Jul 14 2016, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jul 14 2016, 03:48 PM)
Just placed 4.4%. Today last day.
The rates you posted takes effects tomorrow.
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too bad 4.4% only if min 200K & iirc 4.3% if min 50k

poor fella like me hope to catch the KFH 4.35% int upfront min 10k only. near old klang road got branch?

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post Jul 14 2016, 06:52 PM

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Public bank's 6+6 also shows the 1st 6 mth maturity date on the face of the cert. But at the back they will also print the 2nd/final maturity date

No lar, you contracted the step up last month... cimb would be silly to go back on its word. no need worry la

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post Jul 19 2016, 07:25 PM

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went to take out my KFH upfront interest today. was told yesterday last day for that promo. then asked them if i can get the money out by banker's cheque on maturity - they said no more BC according to BNM directive. Betul kah? haha if <10k can do online transfer at 2.12 per transfer. if >10K, rentas transfer at 5.30

does that sound right?
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post Jul 20 2016, 03:44 PM

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Ask them for product disclosure sheet and T&C. if gteed 4.8% and gteed capital, i think can seriously consider

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