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Samsung Samsung Galaxy S7 & S7 Edge OFFICIAL DISCUSSION V7, Both available in Malaysia!

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post Jun 6 2016, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(RedDevils88 @ Jun 6 2016, 11:29 AM)
ditched that explorer last month, using Solid Explorer now
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I like ES explorer.. well.. there's always the Pro option.

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post Jun 6 2016, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Jun 6 2016, 12:22 PM)
my s7e sent to the sc again today. last month admitted one time due to glass broken, repair cost me ard 1.2k. This time is lcd problem, at the edge of the screen, tiny light dots. Again this time the glass and lcd has to be replaced but its covered by warranty this time. The service guy did said s7e is fragile among all the models and many has sent in for screen repair. Luckily mine at the first place sent to screen replace at sc and is still under warranty. That guy also mentioned some ppl whose s7e submerged in swimming pool completely dies off. I did tested one time but luckily it was fine. So do carry your s7e with extra care.
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Memang its not meant for swimming.
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post Jun 6 2016, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(yarusaru @ Jun 6 2016, 12:51 PM)
so swim kenot take pic? only can rendam the phone.. is it?
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Actually yes.... immersion =/= swimming

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IP68
Given the aforementioned information, you can probably figure out that the IP68 rating given to the Samsung Galaxy S7 and Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge is fairly strong.

While this means that the phone is completely dust resistant, again it isn't quite so simple for the liquid ingress rating.

Instead, it means that the phone is "protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter," according to the IEC. The usage case supplied for this is "Rain, splashing and accidental submersion."

The IEC requires that the manufacturer itself supplies the precise depth and length of time the device can be exposed to water in such a rating, and in the Galaxy S7's case Samsung says that it can withstand "Up to 30 minutes or 1.5 meters under (water)".


Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/wha...1ialwMIvUCkB.99


In other words.... IP68 is to protect against jatuh jamban.

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post Jun 6 2016, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Username8118 @ Jun 6 2016, 01:04 PM)
The customer service lady reminded me: "This phone is water-resistant, not waterproof ok so please don't go into the swimming pool with it"
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The watch industry faced this problem for decades di.

Too many people wear their 30 meter water resistant watch swimming. Swimming pool don't reach 50m for sure but rating is for the water pressure the watch face while immersed at 30m. Once you start moving about... the pressure against the seals increases dramatically.

IP68 is nowhere near 30meters.

edit: numbers... brain not working.

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post Jun 6 2016, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Jun 6 2016, 01:50 PM)
I immersed my s7e into the pool about 1 meter deep, for 10 seconds, and I took photos with the phone while playing water, holding it wet, for an hour and later rinsed the phone under running water for 3 mins because the pool water was salty. I think IP68 is good in handling this kind of situation.
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A lot of youtubers do alot more extreme "water test" with theirs and surviving. Perhaps there's some extra tolerance designed-in nobody knows.

All we know is that the S7 was designed to pass the IP68 tests and if its designed for more, I'm sure the marketing department in Samsung will make a lot of noise about it.

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post Jun 6 2016, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Azureknight94 @ Jun 6 2016, 02:00 PM)
Out of curiosity why do you say all the tempered glass are bad? Are there really no good ones? Even the spigen etc? Sorry if this has been discussed before but haven't been following this thread very often.
Recently quite tempted to get this phone and I'm not a big fan of cases. Was thinking to just slap a dbrand skin on the back and a tempered glass for the screen but reading some of the comments of how fragile the phone is is a turn off.
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Many of the folks here have bought and tried plus there's a very long thread on XDA.

All the tempered glass protector in the market now affects the screen sensitivity to a certain extent... from bad to atrocious.... among other issues.

Spigen's protectors for the S7 edge is not tempered glass.
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post Jun 6 2016, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Jun 6 2016, 02:14 PM)
correct. as long as don't go beyond what is logic, should be fine. Those are just lucky, there maybe many other unfortunate cases as what told by the sc today.
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A lot of consumers dunno also.. some might see nice underwater pool photos and attempt to do it themselves while they hold the phone swimming olympic level breaststroke and butterfly.
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post Jun 6 2016, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(RedDevils88 @ Jun 6 2016, 03:48 PM)
i brought my phone to the swimming pool a few times and it is fine. guess some units are not fully water resistant due to factory defect?
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I think in most cases, its the consumers who uses it beyond what its meant to do/ designed to do.
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QUOTE(RedDevils88 @ Jun 6 2016, 03:48 PM)
i brought my phone to the swimming pool a few times and it is fine. guess some units are not fully water resistant due to factory defect?
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I think in most cases, its the consumers who uses it beyond what its meant to do/ designed to do.
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post Jun 6 2016, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Jun 6 2016, 04:06 PM)
It's good that each of us test it out. At least we know if it is not water resistant, we can still claim warranty for repair.
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RedDevils88 is correct. There's no warranty for water damage. The same if you buy a water-resistant camera too.

In short, there's moisture indicator built near every potential water entry point for service center to know if the seal was compromised and masuk air.

To understand more, you can watch this tear down.



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Even thought the phone is 'water resistant' it would not be wise to always trust that it will stay that way. Even a small drop of your device, or a bend in the frame will dislodge a component enough to ruin the iP68 rating. A dry phone is better than a broken phone any day. Better safe than sorry!


Also things like time, heat and chlorine may effect the seals.


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post Jun 6 2016, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Jun 6 2016, 07:48 PM)
Done replaced my cracked screen  sad.gif
Total damaged - RM1,113 (including GST)  ohmy.gif
Location repaired - Samsung Lowyat Service Centre
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Did they test water resistance?
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post Jun 7 2016, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(antt00 @ Jun 7 2016, 07:26 AM)
Yikes phone fell down. Was knock out of my hand at standing height. It flew and landed flat on the ground screen first. Lucky no damage to the screen or dents.  sweat.gif I think the way it lands make a big difference.
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Nekkid or with case? Which case?
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post Jun 7 2016, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(antt00 @ Jun 7 2016, 07:59 AM)
With ringke fusion case and cheapo rm20 screen protector. The case stayed on didn't came out at all.
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What surface did it landed on?
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QUOTE(jesseblue @ Jun 7 2016, 08:46 AM)
Haha. CSI at work
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Hahahaha...

Problem is that although there's a gazillion case reviews all over the web but nobody really touches on the main purpose of cases ie protecting the phone.
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post Jun 7 2016, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(jesseblue @ Jun 7 2016, 09:21 AM)
I supposed the screen is rather fragile against drops and the lack of available protective TG would make most ppl paranoid. Not to mentioned replacingsthe glass would cost one third of the phone itself =(
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Lack of TG is one thing but what interest me more are case design, material, tech and the claimed drop protection.

It's like everyone started claiming MIL-STD for thinner and thinner case.

As for as I know MIL-STD is just a guideline and manufacturers can just declare that they are compliant. There isn't any 3rd party organization that certifies compliance.
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QUOTE(jesseblue @ Jun 7 2016, 10:16 AM)
What's this MIL-STD. Sounds a bit provocative. Hahaha

I'm just using the ringke slim without any screen protection. Feels like the cases' edges protrudes enough to cover all corners for a minimal drop protection. The case material is also rather hard although slim

Glad I don't have the chance to test it out yet. =)
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Method 516.6 – Shock

This is probably the method that is cited the most by manufacturers and agencies alike. Part of this test method is sometimes referred to as the “drop” test, and it gauges how well a device holds up to impacts while falling from certain heights. The tests are designed to determine how well a device can put up with general physical abuse while in operation, but not from factors such as nearby explosions (these are covered in separate methods).

There are eight different procedures to choose from that each use different ways to cause shock or impact, but Procedure IV (transit drop) is the most often cited. The test was primarily designed for materiel that is loaded or unloaded from a vehicle, or taken off of a shelf, but for mobile devices it could certainly apply to nearly any operational instance.

How extensive Procedure IV gets is determined by the object’s weight. Personal computing devices would fall into the first category, which is for weights of less than 100 pounds and lengths of less than 91 cm (36 inches). The floor of the drop zone is two inches of plywood over concrete, which was determined to be the most common surface a device was likely to land on. Testers drop the device from a height of 4 feet on each of its six faces, 12 edges and eight corners, for a total of 26 drops. They visually inspect for damage and determine whether it still works after each drop. If a manufacturer requests, the 26 drops can be divided among five identical items.

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post Jun 7 2016, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Darshan @ Jun 7 2016, 11:26 AM)
Any full tempered glass for non-edge S7 that can recommend? Bought Nilkin one and it is crap :/
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post Jun 7 2016, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(jesseblue @ Jun 7 2016, 10:24 AM)
Whoa. Really the case guru man.
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Not really. Budak baru belajar here..just trying to understand from watching youtube drop test vids how come some bulky well padded case dont protect the phone as well as some comparatively thinner ones.

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QUOTE(yarusaru @ Jun 7 2016, 04:45 PM)
wont the fire affect the screen? confused.gif
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From jerryrigeverything's vid.... unlike LCD screens, amoled don't quite recover from fire.

edit: add vid. @1:45



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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Jun 8 2016, 12:07 AM)
Wtf. My screen cracked also, damn fragile

Where can replace screen with lower cost ? How long taken for repairing?
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Were u using a case? If so which one?

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