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TSelmolee
post Sep 17 2016, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Sep 16 2016, 09:16 PM)
Do you have them both in the same joint? Does one medication take care of both?

Actonel good for you? Some problems reported:    http://www.drugs.com/comments/risedronate/actonel.html

It is amazing to just Google "actonel gout" and scan the titles without going to them!
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Well.. I still think baking soda has the less side effects. Now I'm drinking once a month. And I'm eating as usual. I'm glad that I didn't follow doctor advice for the alluporinol.

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post Sep 17 2016, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Aug 27 2016, 06:07 PM)
A lot of controversy around this.

First, statistics say the gout will go away without treatment, in 7-14 days. Often no more attacks within 1-2 years.

So, anything taken before next attack years away looks like it is a miracle cure. Might really be good, but don't know.

On the other hand, allopurinol needs to be taken daily for years, and 80% patients fail to do so, so when an attack comes, they say allopurinol useless.

Extreme diets impossible to maintain for most people. Claimed that only animal proteins cause problem. Vegetables high in purine do not.

Baking soda can be dangerous because of high sodium just like spoons of salt. Neutralizing stomach acid destroys food safety barrier and reduces extraction of nutrients. Useless because the body has rapid re-balancing mechanisms if you try to change pH of blood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O6GhVCvVgE  (They look like ..... but just listen!)

So much more research and evidence needed. Proceed with caution.
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Hi. Do you suffer from gout too? Did you know how much we gout patients suffer from medications? I felt like sh*t even before the alluporinol med.
I'm just helping you guys here and I dun earn a single cent.





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post Sep 17 2016, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(elmolee @ Sep 17 2016, 10:28 AM)
Hi. Do you suffer from gout too? Did you know how much we gout patients suffer from medications? I felt like sh*t even before the alluporinol med.
I'm just helping you guys here and I dun earn a single cent.
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Few months ago, I thought it was a fractured toe, since I bumped it. Long after it healed, suddenly swollen hot again without any obvious reason. After several days, found out most gout starts near big toe and is hot and inflamed whereas arthritis is cool. Colchicine traditional med, 2 tabs to be taken immediately then tapered off. Already late, so I took only one tab and next day all was fine, stopped and for a month so far, no more problems. I will not do allopuinol or weird diets.

When I bought it, only 20 sen per tab rclxms.gif but allopurinol 75 sen to be taken daily long term ohmy.gif We are lucky because in other countries colchicine is usually 10 X the price due to drug company rip-offs ranting.gif
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post Sep 17 2016, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Sep 17 2016, 09:43 PM)
Few months ago, I thought it was a fractured toe, since I bumped it.  Long after it healed, suddenly swollen hot again without any obvious reason.  After several days, found out most gout starts near big toe and is hot and inflamed whereas arthritis is cool. Colchicine traditional med, 2 tabs to be taken immediately then tapered off. Already late, so I took only one tab and next day all was fine, stopped and for a month so far, no more problems. I will not do allopuinol or weird diets.

When I bought it, only 20 sen per tab  rclxms.gif  but allopurinol 75 sen to be taken daily long term  ohmy.gif    We are lucky because in other countries colchicine is usually 10 X the price  due to drug company rip-offs ranting.gif
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Wow.. You are lucky coz your cochicine can control your gout. I took cochicine and didn't work. Luckily I found my cure too.

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post Sep 19 2016, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(elmolee @ Sep 17 2016, 09:57 PM)
Wow.. You are lucky coz your cochicine can control your gout. I took cochicine and didn't  work. Luckily I found my cure too.
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I was amazed when I read that gout can subside in 3-7 days WITHOUT ANY TREATMENT! Possibility of a false, placebo effect even with tap water. Anyone trying long-term baking soda, please monitor your stomach acid, intestinal bacteria, sodium levels, blood pressure, etc. Wish you all the best of health!
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post Sep 19 2016, 11:34 PM

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I have suffered from gout for like 12 years now. Last year found a traditional/alternative herbs. No gout for like 1 year. But now it seems that I am immune to the herbs and gout keep coming back. Tried the baking soda treatment before. Didn't worked much for me. Was under allupurional at 300mg dose per day. Never missed taking the medicine for about half a year. But stop since uric acid reading never go below 400, and swelling non-stop through out the period I took allupurinol.

Now I try to control my diet by reducing protein and taking olive oil and applying ozonated olive oil where normally I got gout. It helps to reduce the pain.

Only those who suffers gout can understand another gouter (?) suffering..
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post Sep 20 2016, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(mareno77 @ Sep 19 2016, 11:34 PM)
I have suffered from gout for like 12 years now.  Last year found a traditional/alternative herbs.  No gout for like 1 year.  But now it seems that I am immune to the herbs and gout keep coming back. Tried the baking soda treatment before.  Didn't worked much for me.  Was under allupurional at 300mg dose per day.  Never missed taking the medicine for about half a year.  But stop since uric acid reading never go below 400, and swelling non-stop through out the period I took allupurinol.

Now I try to control my diet by reducing protein and taking olive oil and applying ozonated olive oil where normally I got gout.  It helps to reduce the pain.

Only those who suffers gout can understand another gouter (?) suffering..
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Does this condition comes at a certain age as some bodily function get older and you lose the normal PH balance your body automatically provides and we all have to help our bodies balance the PH by taking supplements?

What causes the condition?
TSelmolee
post Sep 20 2016, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(mareno77 @ Sep 19 2016, 11:34 PM)
I have suffered from gout for like 12 years now.  Last year found a traditional/alternative herbs.  No gout for like 1 year.  But now it seems that I am immune to the herbs and gout keep coming back. Tried the baking soda treatment before.  Didn't worked much for me.  Was under allupurional at 300mg dose per day.  Never missed taking the medicine for about half a year.  But stop since uric acid reading never go below 400, and swelling non-stop through out the period I took allupurinol.

Now I try to control my diet by reducing protein and taking olive oil and applying ozonated olive oil where normally I got gout.  It helps to reduce the pain.

Only those who suffers gout can understand another gouter (?) suffering..
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Hi.
For how long did you try the baking soda? Full dosage from the beginning?
I understand how you feel..

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QUOTE(mareno77 @ Sep 19 2016, 11:34 PM)
I have suffered from gout for like 12 years now.  Last year found a traditional/alternative herbs.  No gout for like 1 year.  But now it seems that I am immune to the herbs and gout keep coming back. Tried the baking soda treatment before.  Didn't worked much for me.  Was under allupurional at 300mg dose per day.  Never missed taking the medicine for about half a year.  But stop since uric acid reading never go below 400, and swelling non-stop through out the period I took allupurinol.

Now I try to control my diet by reducing protein and taking olive oil and applying ozonated olive oil where normally I got gout.  It helps to reduce the pain.

Only those who suffers gout can understand another gouter (?) suffering..
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The high reading of uric acid makes most people think due to excessive protein intake. Drinking soda is like neutralizing the uric acid but this is not really cure. It is just like the water is too sweet and you just add water. Yes, it will be less sweet but the amount of sugar you consume is still the same if you drink the whole solution smile.gif

Gout sufferer has high uric acid accumulation at joint. The traditional cure by kampung people and orang asli is to take a handful of daun ketapang* (the one that has fallen to the ground) and boil it. You can save it in a bottle and drink a glass of it every morning. This might be because the water soaked with daun ketapang can naturalized water.

You would be surprised if I tell you the high uric acid reading is caused by something like soft drink you are drinking. There is complicated link between uric acid and fructose (the sweetener used in almost all drink nowadays which is in form of corn syrup). When fructose is broken down into glucose, the by-product is uric acid.

So, if you like to drink all these drink like Coke, Pepsi, or any canned drink, try to stop or reduce. See if this helps. The same goes to people who has kidney stone problem. Kidney stone is not only formed by crystallized calcium, but it can be also caused by crystallized uric acid.

* Pokok Ketapang -- Terminalia catappa
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post Sep 20 2016, 01:06 PM

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I used to get pretty painful gout attacks due an unhealthy lifestyle. Just loved those red meats and alcohol.

I haven't had any attacks since I started exercising (mainly running) a few years ago, and I don't take any medication. Well, there was one attack in the beginning of the year, but that was probably due an injury interrupting my workout for more than 4 months.

No idea if my uric acid is lower than before, but I don't get those excruciating joint pains anymore.
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post Sep 21 2016, 04:19 PM

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@mareno and @Richard

Yes, as an effect of aging, the body begins to break down more of its own protein (notice skin and hair of elderly) and that is ultimately a big source of uric acid. So it is not clear whether reduction of protein in the diet will change anything.

Please worth for me to repeat, experts saying "gout can subside in 3-7 days WITHOUT ANY TREATMENT and not return for 1-2 years" so beware miracle cures, even allopurinol etc. from doctors.

This post has been edited by oneeleven: Sep 21 2016, 04:20 PM
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post Sep 22 2016, 01:33 PM

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Hi all, my bro got gout about 3 year now..i observe him from taking medication like ponstan and other pill i dont know what, doesnt really help,, whenever we had a seafood dinner he really prepare like drinking a lot of water and recently i think he consume Apple Cider Vinegar a spoon before and after seafood dinner..i ask him when last time he a gout attack he said its been a year since he consume apple cider vinegar no more problem, problem apple cider vinegar taste so bad .
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post Sep 22 2016, 04:48 PM

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Do you know why so many hospital and doctor still exists in this century?
Because it works.

If baking soda helps to reduce the gout or cure it, then you should get the Nobel prize in medicine research or being recognize in the medicine industry.

Same thing apply to any miracle alternative they claim can cure cancer.








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post Sep 22 2016, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(lancelot567 @ Sep 22 2016, 04:48 PM)
Do you know why so many hospital and doctor still exists in this century?
Because it works.

If baking soda helps to reduce the gout or cure it, then you should get the Nobel prize in medicine research or being recognize in the medicine industry.

Same thing apply to any miracle alternative they claim can cure cancer.
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What ever. I dun earn anything from helping you guys here. And if you not a gout sufferer I think you dun know what we have been tru.
If you think alluporinol or other med is a cure.. You better do more research.
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post Sep 22 2016, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(gengkey01 @ Sep 22 2016, 01:33 PM)
Hi all, my bro got gout about 3 year now..i observe him from taking medication like ponstan and other pill i dont know what, doesnt really help,, whenever we had a seafood dinner he really prepare like drinking a lot of water and recently i think he consume Apple Cider Vinegar a spoon before and after seafood dinner..i ask him when last time he a gout attack he said its been a year since he consume  apple cider vinegar no more problem, problem apple cider vinegar taste so bad .
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I'm happy to know that Apple cider vinegar works for your brother. I tried that but it didn't work.
It taste nasty but you can try to hold your breath while drinking. Thats what I did 😁😁
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post Sep 22 2016, 06:05 PM

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This post has been edited by oneeleven: Sep 22 2016, 07:27 PM
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post Sep 22 2016, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(elgan @ Sep 20 2016, 01:06 PM)
I used to get pretty painful gout attacks due an unhealthy lifestyle. Just loved those red meats and alcohol.

I haven't had any attacks since I started exercising (mainly running) a few years ago, and I don't take any medication. Well, there was one attack in the beginning of the year, but that was probably due an injury interrupting my workout for more than 4 months.

No idea if my uric acid is lower than before, but I don't get those excruciating joint pains anymore.
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Good for you! Just wondering, have you stopped eating any red meat or drinking alcohol, for how long? What did you do to ease the first attacks?

For many years before and even during my gout I have been, still doing weights, cardio, yoga. So perhaps it helps lessen the problem. Since the first attack a year ago I have been eating and drinking all the forbidden stuff DAILY but only one recurrence two months ago which one tablet of colchicine for 20 sen cleared up, and back to eating and drinking as always.

Said repeatedly, "gout can subside in 3-7 days WITHOUT ANY TREATMENT and not return for 1-2 years"

So my latest miracle cure: one deep breath before getting out of bed.

PS: I took the colchicine on the 4th day, so it might not be a miracle either.

This post has been edited by oneeleven: Sep 22 2016, 06:07 PM
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hmmm good for you TS

good to know that this forum still has people who are willing to share and help instead of just asking and get help.
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post Oct 14 2016, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(elmolee @ Sep 22 2016, 05:37 PM)
What ever. I dun earn anything from helping you guys here. And if you not a gout sufferer I think you dun know what we have been tru.
If you think alluporinol or other med is a cure.. You better do more research.
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U have good stuff here.. Yes, gout can be freaking bad shit.. So whoever don't get it better don't talk about hospitals and medicines!

I went to multiple specialist but all goes to no use.. They just know how to rip off without caring ur previously used medicine as well as what u using now...

Baking soda is need to be taken at minimum dose... Need to watch out ur pressure as well... Alternatively can use lemon and baking soda to neutralize the pH...

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post Oct 14 2016, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(it.fusion @ Oct 14 2016, 07:36 PM)
U have good stuff here.. Yes,  gout can be freaking bad shit.. So whoever don't get it better don't talk about hospitals and medicines!

I went to multiple specialist but all goes to no use.. They just know how to rip off without caring ur previously used medicine as well as what u using now...

Baking soda is need to be taken at minimum dose... Need to watch out ur pressure as well... Alternatively can use lemon and baking soda to neutralize the pH...
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HI
How did you cure your gout? Mind to share?

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