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 For people completely new to weight training, Is it advisable to do Starting Strength?

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Armesh
post Jun 2 2016, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(BestCurryLaksa @ Jun 1 2016, 02:34 PM)
For Starting Strength, how much weight to add after each workout? Let's say Monday I do 50kg squats, then Wednesday how much to add to the squats weight? For Stronglifts it's specified that 2.5lbs is added after each workout, but for Starting Strength it's up to me?
Alright. How about 5x3 like in Starting Strength? 5x3 or 5x5 would be better?
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LOL you're thinking too much. Stronglifts is a crappy routine and Starting Strength is ok but lacking too many exercises even for a beginner.

You can do this novice routine which is much more balanced and well rounded:
http://hardset.meshsolutions.tech/program/36

Rest 2-5minutes between sets. Decide a fixed time. I personally rest 2 minute between all my sets for all exercises. For a newbie you can rest 2 mins for isolations and 5 minutes for compounds.
Resting longer is better for str/size.
For 3x6 pick a weight you can do 8 Reps Max with. You'll probably get 6,6,4 reps on your 1st,2nd,3rd set if you rest 2min between sets. Keep training till you get 6 reps on all 3 sets then increase by the smallest increment once you get 3x6 easily. After increase you'll probably be back to getting 6,6,4 or 6,6,5. Repeat til you get 3x6 and increment again.
For 3x8 use something you can do 11 Reps Max with. Same goes for others.
Keep all sets short 1 or 2 reps of failure, the gains are same as going to failure.

Feel free to add calve work or swap exercises as long they hit the same muscle groups.

This post has been edited by Armesh: Jun 2 2016, 03:03 PM
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post Jun 3 2016, 12:57 PM

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1 big mistake newbies always do with those 5x5 programs is they use 5RM weight, going balls to the wall for all 5 sets, and rest 5 minutes between sets.
Especially the the last set where they try to get the 5th rep with shit form so they can add weight next time. It's like the worst system ever.

Any low-moderate volume 4 DAW BB program using double progression is much better and mentally healthy.

This post has been edited by Armesh: Jun 3 2016, 12:58 PM
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post Jun 3 2016, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(helven @ Jun 3 2016, 04:47 PM)
That's why we always say this, this should be stick at every gym entrance. Knowing when to pull backup is the best way to progress.
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It's useless, a newbie won't understand how to apply it to his program. He'll almost certainly think the straining last set reps were acceptable and well done since he didn't round his back or did any serious errors.
Let alone that, you can actually do 5x5 with 5RM resting 5 minutes between with decent form. Just that it's very straining and a big waste of time.

It's better to explain like in my Post #13 where the newbie is auto constrained by the rules i stated when running the provided program.
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post Jun 4 2016, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(BestCurryLaksa @ Jun 4 2016, 10:52 AM)
Thanks for the suggestion Armesh, but I would prefer starting a popular program that is proven to have worked for many people, such as Starting Strength.

From all of your post, I understand, so I shall focus more on technique and increase weights slowly.
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You can run SS using my suggested progression system, it's totally fantastic. However you'll quickly notice lack/or don't have any development in areas such as arms, mid back, traps, upper chest(for some people), and few more.

I have plotted SS in my software here:
http://hardset.meshsolutions.tech/program/50

As you see in the graph and stats below the graph, it only has 48 work/"hard" sets which are extremely little. Such a program is only good to be run in your first month of training to get in good practice for the Big 3.

This post has been edited by Armesh: Jun 4 2016, 02:21 PM

 

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