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> habis lah our EPF flush into najib toilet, 25 B loan debt to PFI

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darth5zaft
post May 28 2016, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(neoexcaliber @ May 28 2016, 11:07 AM)
The PFI 'investment' was speculated to be as problematic as 1MDB years ago. Just today there was an article on KWAP (not KWSP) future plans and it made me puke considering how they could give 4 billion to SRC just because of a government guarantee.

Companies like PFI are one of the ways the government keeps the debt ratio below 55%; by moving government expenditure off books to wholly-owned private entities operating via government guarantees. The worst part is they don't need parliamentary approval for their spending.
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why would you puke? government guarantee is as good as having no risk at all.its isn't called risk free rates for nothing. and the bulk of EPF,PNB, KWAP investment portfolios is in secured fund such as those.

I don't think SPV such as those reduced the debt ratio though but it's good to masked expenditures though like Enron to show a "balanced budget " which will allowed them to keep a low lending rates.

states like Penang and selangor do it as well, they announced a deficit, then don't spend it then top it of and called it a surplus then do defisit again. but I'm really not sure why they do that as it's not beneficial at all outside of conning idiot fanboys though.
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post May 28 2016, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Gion @ May 28 2016, 10:52 AM)
Dunno why is compulsary to have EPF? i knew this gonna happen to our savings and thats the reason why extend to 60 years so that EPF have enough sufficient to loan UMNO. By right increase more tax and GST?
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pembinaan PFI is a paklah/KJ doing though.

one of those leash to keep KJ out of biting the masters hands.
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post May 28 2016, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(neoexcaliber @ May 28 2016, 01:56 PM)
Of course they do. The government continues to move debt off sheet by moving them to wholly-owned private entities and it does mask expenditure. Many of those entities do not appear as government debt.

The government guarantee will be invoked when an investment fails, and that guarantee is fully borne by taxpayers. It's risk-free because the entire risk is being borne by taxpayers. It's the left bailing out the right but the money has already been irresponsibly invested purely on the basis of the guarantee. The only reason so many of our local funds seem secure is because almost every one of them cannot object an order from MoF/government. You could see this at work when the local 1MDB debt/bond holders have stated they will not claim early repayment despite 1MDB triggering a cross default. There'd be no mass selling or demands for early repayment. Worst case scenario; write off the loan.
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Don't be too influenced by pakatoon pseudoscience.

If it were masked by moving it off sheets and put a lot in risky situation then their debts rating will become junks as its entails risks on the part of investors and they would need to pay more interest because of it. And at 55% debts to GDP ratio it's is low, just take a peek at our southern neighbors and see if twice that numbers on a 1/6 population with no resources pose a problem.

Any government bonds is considered risk free as government hold ultimate monopoly on it's sovereign soils and not because of the tax payers. The reason Greece is in such a mess is because they lost their monetary policy which mean they can't print off money nor increase their interest rates.

The local funds aren't supposed to fight off MoF. Thats illogical MoF is their ultimate shareholders and every capitalist know that's firms exist to further the interest of their respective shareholders. And no they can't simply write off the loan as well as its consider incompetent cooperate governance and they will have problems doing their business elsewhere. Did you know ours cooperate governance are 2nd best in Asia all because of these MoF controlled funds?

The thing that need to be worried is not the sovereign backed fund which I guess is considered just to attack the premier infact the biggest risk is the premier wants to impress the public by furthering in risky investment here and abroad to get 6-8% yields.
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post May 29 2016, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(neoexcaliber @ May 28 2016, 04:40 PM)
And who are the investors? Local funds owned and managed by the government and not all wholly-owned entities are running commercial business. Some of them exist to carry out government projects while others manage loans/debts. LPPSA was established early this year and as I remember, it was supposed to move 40 billion of civil servants' housing loans off the balance sheet.

I'm not arguing that 55% is too high. I'm merely stating that it's lower than it actually is.
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you can see our ringgit suffer when the murican hike their interest rate making them having better yield. so to say almost all of investors are local boys loyal to MOF is highly unlikely scenario.

the move of what you suspected as "moving it off balance sheets" outside of your really deep prejudices is really normal. they wanted to differentiate the loan which they had consumed and loans for infrastructure investment to elevate investors concern. Greece problem is they consumed all of those debts for public good, by moving 40bilion of civil servants housing, 60 bil in MRT, 20 bil in KTM double tracking they can show that the loan is use for investment and will yields money despite its long break even points.

people usually defined risk not by the actual debts you have but by your overall commitment and risk exposure. I think even being a guarantor for someone else that records is still recorded in CRIS and would count as commitments.
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post May 29 2016, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ May 28 2016, 07:15 PM)
they are service oriented country with strategic location no?

Last time i heard their economy are still way stronger and stable than what it is here.

oh wait, i tot we should compare ourselves only to zimbabwe according to BeeNee supreme leader logic?
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and we are not a service oriented economy with strategic location?

kesian pakatoon bodoh kene conned LGE pseudoscience and never read WEF efficiency index. either that or racist faggot who won't believe anything else.



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