i had trade my phone with one guy in lowyat,we say tat tmr pos those phone in same day,tat is wednesday..so i have pos it,but he tell me on wednesday tat he went about 3 sumthing ., the post office had closed...,i dun know y tat pos office closed so early,then i believe wat he said,he said he will pos it on thursday morning..

on friday i wait until 1.00pm, still didn't receive my parcel...so i call him ,he told me tat pos officer call him tat he filled a wrong address,he just went on firday morning to resent the parcel....i believe it again...so i wait,he told me tat officer said tat the parcel will arrive my place on saturday,

on saturday,i wait till afternoon still haven't recieved,so i call him again,he said dun know y ,maybe first saturday,pos office rest...so i wait again

till monday,about afternoon,finally i receive the parcel,but when i open,inside the box just have manual and cd,dun even have phone and charger and other thing...
i faster call the seller,he say cannot be.....he sure alraedy put the phone,and he ask me go pos office to ask,(he say he have seal the box with celloptap and sign on it,but when i open ,the box is not seal,so he say is the pos office ppl steal the phone)

then i went to pos office to ask after 1 -2 hours,....they took the parcel and weight again, the weight is same as stated on the paper, which is weight on the seller posoffice....so i dun know wat do to already....till now i still dun know wat to do


p/s: i have checked his detail in lowyat,not in blacklist,and he also have some success tradelist
p/s: he also have give me a pos laju number about his another customer which also post on friday ,but it received in saturday alraedy(i checked it on net)
so he say properly is the poslaju problem,cannot be so long......

guys do u think is the seller cheating me??or the phone had been stolen by the pos office ppl??
come and give u opinion or wat u think




This post has been edited by unnamed882002: Jan 10 2007, 08:39 PM

If the weight of the parcel is the same as stated on the paper, then definitely the seller is cheating you.

Because, all the way when the 'parcel' is still in the hands of the seller, he will bring it up to the guy at the counter and pay the appropriate amount for the postage. Plus, Poslaju or whatever postage company that you use have this policy of assuring the item arrives on time at the correct address. If you used Poslaju or Pos Daftar, there is insurance for the items if it is lost.

Let me give you an example. Say that this fella is your uncle (a family member) and he post a phone to you, and you didnt receive it. He can bring the receipt with tracking number and go and question the post office. If things are really missing, he may opt for insurance for the lost product or better still...... hell, just sue Pos Malaysia.

Definitely you have been conned by the seller. Either that, or he misplaced the phone (he thinks he put it in but he actually forgot to)

This post has been edited by J-Slade: Jan 10 2007, 08:46 PM

can i know how the weight ? how many gram ?
if same, tat mean the seller cheat u la.. i saw this kind of fraud case (just send the phone box without phone) few times already.

the parcel is 0.515 KG
i go pos office weight....totally same 0.515 KG

Push the seller! told him bout the weight. It's make sense what!....

can u reveal who is the seller . . ?
its easy for us c who is it

yeah.. and provide us the link too....

What more can be said.... you have been conned!

Let us know his nickname in LYN please... izzit this guy?

he wants to trade his n70 with you right?

sorry if its the wrong person

This post has been edited by liquid_ooze: Jan 10 2007, 09:26 PM

ya ,tis person offer N70,but he dun reply me....
just finish phone with the seller.....he say tat he sure go put in the phone,and he have trade a RM1000++ phone with other ppl......so he have no neccesory to cheat my RM700++phone....dun know how to do now.....i asking RM300 back.....but he say he still a student, max just can return RM250...he still thinking....
i still bothering in this case.....

sry for no link.....i have thread to sell my phone...but he is pm me for detail...
all we have is on pm....

This post has been edited by unnamed882002: Jan 10 2007, 09:39 PM

It could be that the package was opened by postman.

If the weight is exactly the same, meaning he must be the conman now.

did you PM him to come here and give proper explanation?

we think so....but the weight same......so tis is impossible for the postman to open it
now stil have contact with tat seller....seller just 18 years old guy

there could be a possibility that even after the weight is measured and recorded, the postman opened the package and repackaged it somehow.

sure he can open....but when he took the phone, the weight just will change....
but now the weight still the same....

Seriously, there no other explanation for this except that the seller has conned you...

There is no way the postman has taken the phone if the weight of the box is just the same...

And to think about it, there is no way a phone, with the box, charger and everything else can sum up with a weight of 500Grams...

It's confirmed, the seller has conned you...

And one more thing, why did you ask for some refund?
Ask for full refund lah! not just some, ask for full refund, because it's already confirmed that the seller has lied to you...

And don't forget to PM the stupid conman to come here...

Damn, i hate this kind of seller...

But the sender can check his handwriting on the slip.... and his signature.

i also hope can ask for full refund.....but he can't take out tat much of money...even RM300 also can't...
now he still have contact with me with phone......

Sheesh, this simply means that the conman got hold of your HP6365 without even paying.... only paid the postal fee for the box only

Should have traded with my S700i, i'm in JB also

This post has been edited by liquid_ooze: Jan 10 2007, 10:46 PM

Nah...u got urself conned. Get urself refunded & blacklisted the seller.

This post has been edited by Invince_Z: Jan 10 2007, 10:47 PM

maybe like tat....but bro how u know tat conman got my HP6365??i have mentioned?

Use the search functions.... can read from your thread HERE

Bullshit!!! [To that seller, not to you ]
If he already got the money that he already taken from you, how come he told you that he don't have any money now?

Tell him this, if he doesn't want to pay full refund, all his details, such as his ic number, his house address, his phone numbers will be spreaded through the web saying that he's a conman...

Tell him that you will not accept half refund...

Tell him that you will only accept full refund, if he refuse so, then he will face the consequences!!!

bro, we is exchange phone.....so he no taken money from me....
i really hope he can refund....but.....

Since you've exchanged the phone, get the full amount of that phone la....
Don't tell me you still didn't give him u're phone....

The postman could have taken out the phone. Repackaged it. And reposted it himself. If he does this, then the package details will be the new details listed.

Anyone consider that?

Ask the seller to provide proof that he sent the package to you on the same day that he claimed to send it. (The poslaju receipt) Compare if the number match between his copy and the copy you received.

yeah, like above, i think both of u should send a picture of the receipt that both of u having now.. do comparison, spot the diffrence n decide again.. btw, im quite sure u have his detail coz there are 2 collum at the poslaju slip.. 1 ur address n another 1 is his address.. report this to police under cyber crime if confirm he is cheating n not refunding full to u.. but of coz. we ned to judge the receipt from both of u.. btw, after 2pages, u still havent disclose his detail which i think u should

It is quite easy actually for the pos laju ppl to nick ur stuff. FFS its way too easy.

First let me tell what the seller didnt do. He didnt take a pics of the phone in the box, when it was stealed n if possible it on a scale for the weight. Now for extra security he can ask the pos laju officer to let him take a pic of the box with the processed sticker on it before they put on the pile that waiting for colleciton.

Now how do the pos laju ppl steal ur stuff? Simple, ur parcel only like rm10-20 to post right? So i can take a chance a make a rm20 gamble at the most n pop the parcel open to see if there is anything worth stealing. N let me tell u, u're r not sending anything by pos laju parcel that is worth below rm20 90% of the time. After taking out the stuff which he can resale to a dealer that buys questionable goods or to his friends he packs the parcel, writes out the correct address n other info n pays the fee himself.

RM20 for a possible RM100? Not bad odds is it?

Edit: elhh82 is right the only to catch this is compare the tracking code. But am sure they know a way to get around that. Or the seller could be cheating u Which is most likely what i think unless he can prove otherwise....

This post has been edited by RangerRed: Jan 11 2007, 02:13 AM

ELHH82,
If the posting is using poslaju, i don't think he can do that.
Because there won't be 2 same tracking number from 2 different poslaju information filing paper, right? [i don't quite remember the original name of that paper ]

Correct me if i'm wrong bro ELHH82.

TS, ask from the seller for the tracking number.

If the tracking number is just the same, then poof, he's busted!!

unnamed882002, dont waste your time with that seller anymore. i am quite sure that he just delaying your time. just tell him that the phone is missing and you are quite sure that he didnt send it unless he can prove that he DID sent it. though i highly doubt that.

refund or make a police report as soon as possible.

btw, do ask him to come in here to explain this.

1 August 1988 << birthday.. If this is correct, i am so sad. want to become a con man at such a tender age. what is happening to this world?

make a police report...i have think about tat b4,but make a police report need some proof isn't it?other wise,i dun think the malaysia police will in charge in this case..
correct me if i am wrong..

the tracking number is the same.....
i dun know why the poslaju need a such long time to deliver....


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what is his name? h/p number? address? his nick in LYN? you have to provide all these details so that others can help you.

thread closed for a while...
cos just getting answer from the seller....i will go meet up him,
i take back my phone..if still failed to do this...i will annousce who this seller is...
thx for all ur viewing and replying....wish u all have a good trade in lowyat

This post has been edited by unnamed882002: Jan 11 2007, 11:33 AM