Alright, at the pump stations, you can either pay cash at the counter or you swipe your credit card at the fuel pump.

I wish to opt for the latter option. And I wish to select a fixed amount to pump. Say, RM40.


I think this is doable, considering you'd have buttons next to the credit card slot.


However, can anyone, enlighten us on how to use it ?

just go over the counter and ask them to cahrge the exact amount

Use PRESET option when swiping ur card at terminal

every brand use different method, tell us which brand of fuel you use first.

serious??

petronas, u can see the keypad on the right

press $ then press intended amount, such as rm50 then enter

then fill up

Petronas


tried. put in the debit card, but terus accepted and then say please fill in pump. no mention to put in the amount.

It didnt mention. Just key in the amount you need then press enter. After that angkat nozle la.

Before or after putting in the credit/debit card?

after put credit card, has been authorized,, then key in intended amount

Me using Petron.

Press PRESET, set the amount, then swipe ur card. Once approved, lift the nozzle and fill her up

should be preset first, enter card, pump in

how about BHP?

problem is now not always exact amount tangki full edy

Ok another question, if TS don't mind me interjecting your thread LOL.

I am not sure if you all are aware of this or not.
When we use our CC at the CC machine at the pump, why does our card got charged RM200 for 8 days per transaction, then later after the 8 days have passed, Rm200 is credited back to our cc?

Example:

You fill in RM50 fuel for full tank.
Then you got charged RM200 for 8 days.

You fill in Rm5 fuel for motorbike also, kena charged RM200 for 8 days, then the credit released back.

Now my question is:

What's the main reason banks do this kind of faggotory??
Why not just the exact RM50 or RM5 for the fuel we fill in and no "temporary" charged for certain amount of days.

Can someone explain?

thanks.

I asked bank about this before, it said is standard practice. But since we are not paying the balance or interest for it, I guess no big deal.

I only knew about it when bank system got too smart and SMS me about the charge of RM200 after I filled the petrol.


This post has been edited by happyking4ever: May 24 2016, 04:45 PM

so the card will still be charged the rm200 amount first la...even if we set the amount to be let say...rm50?

then by all means, better let it take it course...just stop whenever we want...

yes, if let say you just want to fill in rm30 for the sake of want the fill in the fuel bar just by 1 but not really full tank,
might as well you fill in full tank until the fuel nozzle stops automatically.

because the rm200 will still be charged for 8 days, irregardless of any amount you want to fill the petrol in the first place.

Now i know some people might think this is no big deal. But to those who always monitor their CC outstanding balance and fear that particular rm200 (for 8 days) will just hit the CC limit, it is a big deal.

Because the system always needs to know the charge amount before approving the charge, and since you havent started refuel, there is no way the system can know how much you are gonna charge.

So what the system does, is to use RM200 as the amount to run the approval process. Once it is approved, the RM200 will be entered into the unbilled amount on your account.

As to why it take 8 days, I guess it's just how long it takes to reverse the balance.

Just swipe card and pump exact amount lah...all this is pointless...kena charge RM200 for 8 days somemore, later system screw up then no reverse charge....

The system needs to know the charge amount to run the approval algorithm ma, if you havent refuel how the system know wor, so it ma put RM200 first lor..... u understand what I say anot jek

I know, i just don't see why need to pump exact RM xx when using credit card...

There must be some kind of miscommunication somewhere

In any case, whether you manually key in your amount or use your refueling skills to get the exact amount you want, your card will still be charged RM200 upfront. Basically as long as you are using credit card at the pump, the card will be charged that amount upfront.

If you want to avoid that when using credit card, the only way is to give the counter cashier your credit card, get him to authorize the pump, refuel your car, then go back to the counter so the cashier can charge the exact amount using the POS terminal. But that defeats the convenience factor of using a credit card.

Dulu AMEX only charge RM80 upfront....now I not sure liao.

This post has been edited by dares: May 25 2016, 11:10 AM

Is it?? But i never see such charge in the credit card statement?? So i guess it's internally done and the thing cancelled out hence not shown?

Yep, the process is mostly invisible to the customer, unless he/she very rajin go check his unbilled amount.

including me, that rajin customer who always monitor CC transactions.

thanks for your explaination btw.

Yes, might as well fill in until full tank rather than exact amount. Like it or not, the RM200 charged for 8 days will still take effect.

Insecure Capitalists bastards!

So it is regardless whether preset or not, the CC will be charged RM200 upfront?
Can others confirm too?

The RM200 charge will just affect your total outstanding limit.
You cant even see it in transaction history nor your CC outstanding amount.

I never use debit card before but i heard the concept is just the same which is bad because bank will take your own money 1st before return back to you.

pay at cashier site with card no additional rm200 charge

pay at pump terminal with card got additional rm200 charge

you should always pump your tank to full if you want to keep your fuel tank rust free.

can I know the logic behind this theory?

btw yes i always pump my tank full everytime.

It does matter, say, if you are using Debiit Card, and you need to withdraw the 'withheld' money later the day.

e.g.
Account balance : 250
Amt withhold : 200
bal available to withdraw = 250 - 200 = 50

Though most of the forumers are rich, so the a/c balance would be way higher, so there really is no issue.
But some do face this problem, especially during days just before payday.


Anyone else can concur this?

This post has been edited by watabakiu: May 27 2016, 11:56 PM

https://www.kaltire.com/keep-gas-tank-full/

good fr u. i only know when i try to withdraw tidak cukup balance... hahahaha since then ive dumped debit card

Good argument. But a few flaws.

If the fuel is running low and that the warning sign has lit, i'd agree.
And being in a traffic, car may stall due to no fuel.

But the tank doesn't have to be full, does it? i think 1/2 or say 1/4 is good enough.

I mean, it does not have to be full/nearing full, kan?

Nice info in the website, though i think such as condensation, it may occur in cold country, difficult to happen to us here.
While for other points, shouldnt car makers already design the tank to prevent those problem from happening, at least at normal tank operating level.

At the counter the cashier will only swipe your car AFTER you have refueled, and the RM amount is entered into the terminal. It will be the same as any regular retail charge, eg. swipe your card at the hypermarket.

but mostly the cashier will just reluctant to do this though. They will simply ask you to swipe outside.

Safety reasons. Ur cc max usage is cap at 200. Incase u forget to put the nozzle properly and ur cc still running

Its called a Pre-authorisation.This amount is reserved directly to your card(if you have enough balance for the pre-auth).. Then once you complete filling up your tank,u put the handle back,it will be called as a completion.Then terminal will send another transaction message to indicate how much does the end completion of your filling.Then processing will be done at the back end between the fuel brand with your card issuer for settlement purposes.After completing the settlement then only your remaining balance is credited into your account back.

Which is absurd really, as customers have opted to pay via card, at the counter. Why the fuss, just do laa.
It'd be more or less the same time taken as paying cash, right?

u put in ur card approve edi, b4 pump, go press the number pad.
u can either choose exact RM, or exact litters.

or u do it the pro way, control the pump wit ur hand to reach exact RM or litters.
i usually do this, coz it adds the fun is refueling.

shell pump right?

their standard practice, only shell prints it out. the rest no show although happen just the same

no it's for Petronas and other gas stations too eg. Shell, Petron, etc.

Lucky i brought this thing up because i know not all are aware about this hahaha!

Thanks for those who gave their expert feedbacks. Knowledge sharing for all.

For Petronas, swipe card and when approve, before lift nozzel, key in amount and press enter. lift the nozzle and it will pump based on your amount you input

use your hand manually control also can. need skill if u want ngam ngam to get a perfect .00 at the back.

Juz done pump petrol at shell with credit card . Card reading error msg show . Try the 3 RD time only successful payment z

But I had call my bank , they temporary amount withheld is 400 for the first 2 time transaction which is their failure can’t read my credit card

What’s should I do now ? Call shell or credit card bank ?

How long will it take to release my money withheld ?

Appreciate your help

This post has been edited by Elaine901211: Jan 27 2018, 03:25 AM

It just holds the amount, no interest charged. It will also not be reflected on your statements-la!

I only pump full tank, so never bothered.

Old post, but this kind of system concept
is ridiculous.

After keying in the amount of
petrol you want on the panel, say RM20,
isn't it a simple matter for
the software to instruct
the pump to dispense
that amount of
petrol as
entered , much like a
coin-operated water
dispenser giving you
the exact amount of
water for the coins
you have put in ?

What's the point of
an automated system
and the keypad
anyway ?

This post has been edited by Tham: Aug 22 2021, 11:30 PM

If want liddis might as well go inside pay cash la

Hi, for bank negara it has been set rules that any pre-authorised below that RM250 shall return to account owner within 3 working days. It is not allowed for return by 8 days unless amount is more then RM250.
At SST(Self services Terminal) Most of petrol station is require pre-authorised of RM200 minimum. It will then will be return by 3 workings day BUT the amount will be cancel immediately once you finish and return a nozzle at pump.

Good news, if you are using Petronas SST and using Maybank credit/debit card. The amount will refund straight away after you completed.

Hope this help

I don't know what bank you use, but in 2021 my bank reverts the RM 200 as soon as the transaction is done