Long story short,

Abu Hannah ni salah seorang admin kuku besi group Masyarakat Kena Tahu dalam Facebook.

Group ni adalah group tegar bagi golongan menolak vaksin atau pro-choice.













Bukti diatas adalah bukti yang menunjukkan dia sanggup menipu dengan nama Rasulullah SAW.

Apalah lagi penipuan yang dia buat dalam group Masyarakat Kena Tahu ni agaknya?

Hannah Yeoh?

Itsbin the internet/fb, its must be true!!

Same category with AbdulRahman and Meis.

mohon geng2 menolak vaksin pigi keluar dari marehsia..useless..kesian kat bayi2 kecil....

There's should be a public debate on this vaccine issues, bring up all the defiant, pessimist and pro anti-vaccine in one Majlis and MOH will be represented by their vaçcine team, then we have debate... It must publicly aired

The thing is there is none qualified person to re-present the pro-choice if they want to organize this debate. For sure they will chicken out.

tolak vaksin xyah la pake tenet ngan fb...

dok gua makan kelawar laaa

dah baca 5 kali...kesimpulan dia...sesama islam pun boleh gaduh..inikan pula nak takluk dunia.

That Muhammad

Is it u ts? U personally argue with him?

hehe sana hehe sini. baik pergi mati

panggil itu icehart & one more new guy.

Ini semua agenda Yahudi!!!

Tak boleh! Kami harus sedarkan masyarakat vaksin ini semua agenda Yahudi!!!

nope. it is not me. i took this screenshot from FB.

scared end up applying personal attacks coz modal not strong enuff.

Then u shud be glad

Nobody wouldtakluk dunia lol

I rather not have any specific group. Even Islam. Rule this world

I like it as it is lol

Geng2 penunggang agama ni menyampah aku tengok.
Buat komen ala2 sopan lepas tu letak smiley hujung konon nampak mcm "cool".

Padahal Babi menunggang.

Salah satu sebab aku delete akaun Facebook.

Owh. I see. Ok ok

bodo anti vaksin ppl
>tak bagi vaksin to child
>want to enroll taska
>taska ask for bukti vaksinasi
>dont have, go find doctor, ask to fake bukti
>say it's ok bohong sunat

seriously dont jeopardize other ppl's children la. take care of ur child at home, biar dia sakit sorang2.

Asyik asyik statement tanya ahli dan hikhikhik.

Bodoh pegi mampus la. Kalau xtau, jangan pandai pandai buat statement.

Dah la bodo, buat buat macam pandai. Mengarut betul!!

Time kecik mak bapak dia org dah bawak dia org gi vaksin dah. Skang tak nak buat utk bebudak dia org?

Dia kata dia bukan ahli, tapi aktif promote benda yang bertentangan dengan apa yang disarankan oleh pakar atau doktor.

andai apa yang buruk jadi, bukannya dia nak bertanggungjawab.

Betul tu bro.

Bodo tak bertempat. Pemikiran sempit nak mampus.

Geram pulak aku tengok orang bodoh mampus macam ni.

Kalau kwn aku macam ni, dah lama aku hempuk kepala dia.

Eleh ini semua konspirasi.. dalil tolak Vaksin.. last2 jual product MLM syariah.. puiii..

Don't use religion as commodity.. in which Arabs are doing now since Oil reserve and price going down the drain...

I said Bani Arabs.. bukan Agama..

anti-vax ni bodo dia macam vegan. "research"

Biasalah tu. deswat they were called penunggang agama.

betul. sama bodo. sama-sama naik!

normal school need vaksin prove, but how about sekolah agama?

group ghetto

tried to take a sneak peek, but i cant brain their logic. my head hurts so much.

ada kes macam ni kah?
pantat... bertuah punya manusia

Ada. Siap menipu suruh doktor palsukan dokumen sebab nak pergi umrah. Kalau tak silap aku nak pergi umrah kena ada bukti vaksinasi baru kerajaan Arab Saudi benarkan.

Benda ni dah kerap berlaku. Depa sanggup menipu untuk menghalalkan tindakan depa.

pelik2 la melayu skang ni...

mana la melayu tk kena troll dengan bangsa lain

mana la islam tu tak kena troll dengan bangsa lain

sebab benda2 macam ni la...

pasal vaksin pon jadi hal...

sbb tu kena baca..."bacalah dengan nama Tuhanmu yang menciptakan"

dengan kata lain bukan hanya dengan lafaz. baca sepuluh muka surat tapi tk paham hanyalah sia-sia. at least baca terjemahannya sekali walaupun lambat. yang penting penting pengakhiran kita nanti macam mana. jadi kena pilih simpang mana kita nak untuk sampai ke akhir tu". dont aftraid of going slow be afraid of standing still.

kita dah bersaksi. Jadi bersaksi bukan hanya dengan melihat dan melafaz tapi dengan hati, akal dan perbuatan. macam mana nk bersaksi dengan hati, akal dan perbuatan sedangkan kita hanya melafaz tapi tk memahami. macam mana nak bersaksi dengan hati dan akal sedangkan kita hanya melihat (tiru perbuatan tapi tk tau rukunya/buat tapi tak faham) bila bersaksi semua kena bergerak seiring

(iqra) bacalah!! sbb itu permulaannya. tk kira la banyak mana ceramah kamu dengar. berapa byk ustaz yang kamu berguru. lepas tu baru kamu boleh bt perbandingan, penilaian dan pilihan yamg mana most accurate. tk boleh ambk bulat2 dari mana2 penceramah. kadang2 penceramah pun keluarkan pendapat sendiri. sama juga macam yang atas sy bagi tu. kamu mendengar dari mulut penceramah tapi kamu tidak membaca. bukan nk menidakkan pendapat... terima je.. tetapi jika pendapat berbeza jgnlah membenci asalkan pendapat itu datang dari sumber yang sahih. at least kita ada pengetahuan sedia ada sebelum terima bulat-bulat atau terlalu tksub dengan mana2 guru.

"sampaikanlah walau satu ayat"

berlapang dada lah bro2 sekalian. salam jumaat penghulu segala hari.

Haha, Wtf is ahli?so i enter pedo group,i also ahli. Tok kok play ping pong, last-last kantoi menipu. Bodo lahanat sangup jual agama

This

I cannot stress how much this is against islam

How ironic it is

Its crazy

In order to avoid something might be haram (theres no substantial proof pun)

They commit something that is memang actually haram and sinful (lying and cheating)

Its midblowing. How stupid these people can be

Vaccine or no vaccine

yOLo!

im sure ur happy with this essay u wrote

But i couldn't get any of your point. If theres any

Basically, his kebodohan terserlah then got called out. Kecut bola when asked to defend himself and became backpedal olympic winner.

wtf... so better saudi gov take them as prisoner lah
they not nly stupid but dangerous to other people

so what your stand? i didnt understand...
you mean read reseacrh for 3 days and voilaaa be anti vaksin researcher?
for me, wanna read, read and think...

This post has been edited by apisfires: May 20 2016, 10:25 AM

Cuba bace betul2. Ni bukan pasal vaksin tapi die cakap timr zaman nabi doktor yang cari pesakit bukan pesakit cari doktor. Lepastu bile mintak dari mane dapat statement ni, die cakap tnye ahli. Xke bodo tu. So ikut logic die kalau kite patah tulang, just duduk rumah je. Tunggu sampai doktor datang rumah sebab ikut zaman "nabi"

Debate?
If you don't like then don't use. Why the need to waste precious resources to argue with retards when lives can be saved?

Kekadang diorang ni taksub sendiri. Konon gi masjid konon orangvtanya bab agama . Pastu terlebih over react.
Kalau lama lama macam ni mau jadi macam ayah pin

you debate with fool, not only make you look fool but worst.. fooled by fool

Fuiyo power. Salute. Hahaha.

Si abu hannah ni memang dah ramai pengikut. Cuma belum declare tuhan jer lagi.

Dalam Azan pun ada ayat marilah menuju kejayaan

Tak paham gamaknya....

pi la masuk group masyarakat kena tipu tu.. kompem bernanah mata

make a statement,
people ask why, it not my statement, ask the one making it.
people ask then why make that statement?, its not my statement, ask the one making it.
people ask then who make the statement, its not my statement, ask the one making it.

just like asking the limited input program device like in the i, robot movie.

I'm not saying I support or rejecting the idea. I just put aside watever religion it is. If can be proven internationally then just follow.
Who the heck wanna volunteer their bb to become white rat?

To be fair if a person still have humanity inside him shouldn't even involve other ppls child. The cheapest way he can go abt proving it is have his own bb as a test and documented it internationally for successfil event, if he success la. Dun bangang enuf to pull out fake clinical trial.

This post has been edited by D10yrspain: May 20 2016, 10:55 AM

He used religion to further his argument against vaccines?

Haha, post PW masuk /k lagi....

Guys, pls do me a favour,

Report the "Masyarakat Kena Tahu" Page

A lot of fallacies are being spread in the group.

This endangers a lot of ppl

Vaccination only works if everyone is doing it. These idiots are putting other people at risk for being boneheads.

Of course there will be risks. Anomalies will exist despite rigorous testing. Despite that, fatal and highly contagious diseases still got nearly eradicated. But because of one un-vaccinated tool, some sh*t can live long enough to mutate and kill a million people, again.

right? if that guy is in front of me, I will give sidekick to his neck

whats in fb, let them stay inside, nowaday, u cant really justify which is true, which is not.. even u know that's wrong, people will keep bash u to make sure their point is keep strong.

sometimes, they quote hadis sohih or muslim, but i don't think they really know what is the mean, and sometimes the issue is following different path, not even questioning the answer.

fb or forum is not a good way to bash regarding religion, because of what? u could search at google by use keyword, then copy for paste it.. u think they even know the true meaning? think again..

muslim or other religion, not put their own god above them, and more to use logical thinking .. everyone can do

yes.

and not just against vaccines. abu hannah is notorious for advocating pseudoscientific practices. he started as pro-breast feeding. which is fine, and we all do that. this is when the page gained massive followers. but then he started to attack all forms of formulas, including substitutes for mothers who cant produce enough milk or babies without contact with natural mothers. so the followers who were just pro-breastfeeding in the beginning became anti-vaccine, anti-paracetamol, anti-rockerfeller, anti-yahudi, anti-illuminati etc.

so religion aside, if we encounter some idiot who failed to use logic, it's okay to bash, right?

We see more and more of them these days.......

Oredi got ppl tested on their own children, none proven success.
If success more than those dying during vac sure ppl will look into it.
Like I said I have no hatred toward this ppl but if they dun dare to risk their own child to prove it then they
are hoax.
If they betul betul thinking of saving the world and saving lifes they will by all mean risk everything including their own lives.

Dafuq is ahli? Who is ahli? Ahli of wat?

U turn 360 and hehe only the answer when cannot answer his own statement.

This guy is potential to become isis member.

Ok la dah mohon maaf akhirnya. X kan nak hebah maruah tercabar mcm pekerja radio?

Well if you're stay defiant with your arguments, thn you're no different with them.... Never underestimate the dissent that our country face right now, if we left them unchecked because we knew that they're fools , we knew that it will waste of energy and time to entertain every single questions that arise on vaccination as we have clear evidence of scientific studies... We should approach them. Else they will transform into bigger cult and that time there's no way we could stop them with just law enforcement. they have been radicalised, the thought have been submerged deep into their mind and heart, You must have heard about Memali incident, AL -Maunah, and the recent one which Government have very tough to rid them off, they change their name from one to another but the original teaching is still there, have you heard about Rufaqa? It's probably the biggest isolated cult ever created, and they still exist after almost 30 years in business....

This is Moslem group, and they easily manipulate their subordinates by picking up Koran words and make them believe..

If you think you want Government to ignore them, just go for it , but don't regret if their influence will reach any political parties in the future ...

paging magi for his opinion

if u are ok to talk like chicken and duck, no one will stop u, but in the end, think about your precious time to that.. if u have free time a lot, then go for it.

This answer your question

silent doesn't mean quit my friend, it simply mean that don't want to argue with people who just dont want to understand

more like 'masyarakat kena tipu'

byk plak tu mak-mak yg bahlol dalam grup tu

kesian kt anak kecik

wow we have stupid anti-vaxxer here
i thought all at /k wouldnt be so kolot until become one of them

i disagree with this approach. if u have seen the kind of things they're spreading in there, u cant help but go in and fix things. this is not politics. this is hardcore science.

example: these people feed newborns with honey. some even replacing the first mothers milk with it.

science: newborns have no ability to process complex food like honey. in fact, some studies show it has the potential to cause food poisoning in babies under 12 months.

actual teaching: the prophet advises stimulating newborn babies with breastfeeding problems by massaging babies' mouths with the little finger slightly dipped in honey. the honey functions as sort of anti-bacterial in small amounts.



so u see how deviated they've been? would u just keep silent and biar saja? because they are teaching EVERYONE on that page to do the example above.

icehart85 turn this i nto vegan thread!

Lol argue on fb and internets
That's why some tech not supposed to be use by certsin ppl cos they eill misused it

when was HIV/Aids virus was found? thousand years ago? did amount of tress stay the same compared to thousand yeara ago? did global warming exists thousand yeara ago?

U need to read up on herd immunisation

deswai they stupid mang

study malaysian mortality rate in 60s-70s already proof enough...baby die early...children died early from preventable disease.

80s-90-00s all good times coz gomen start give free mmr...diseases killing millions now preventable...now the stupid idiot fucks think its becoz their "eating" kurma or lifestyle...now dont wanna give to their child...now disease almost gone are coming back again...plus foreigners from poor country bringing in TB etc....fuckk the country full of retards

Well... people of the faith also drink zamzam water thinking that it heals sickness also, ignoring the health risks.

I guess they're just not interested in learning the science behind it. Apparently camel urine is a popular medicine for them in the past.

seems you shoot it right. go figure

Aku masuk kejap dalam group tuh

Banyak posting dimulai dengan "Salam pakar pakar sekalian..." lepas tu tanya pasal health issues

LOL

FB certified pakar ke?

meleis meleis

later kids come out got health problems one, salah this and that ....

got vaccinated, not kosher, cannot go heaven, also salah this and that ....

adoi ... easy solution, dont breed ....

Yeah... critical thinking is discouraged, the more religious one gets, the more hazardous it is to his/her hygiene. As if drinking zamzam water and camel urine isn't bad enough...





This post has been edited by spanker: May 20 2016, 12:40 PM

So dulu hang blaja sampai mesir?

no im not..

my point is
1. Dont need to argue this vaccine things. human need vaccine for immunization to avoid disease. we need doctor when sick. "ask the expert"/"bertanyalah dengan orang yang berpengetahuan/pakar".

2. Abu Hannah made a statement form his opinion/from what he heard not from what he read. when he said "saya bukan ahli" that means he know nothing. So the story about the tabib/doctor is not valid/ fallacy. my point is i dont agree with abu hannah. made a statement that he didn't know or not even read from the reliable source.

3. The argument about vaccine or comment in FB make us look bad
(menunjukkan melayu islam ni celaru, suka bangkitkan isu, kadang2 benda kecik jadi besar, benda halal jadi haram, tak tutup aurat kena maki pastu viral, sampai bangsa lain mempermainkan isu ini)my point is it look bad when we argue for something that we dont know about. made a blind statement just based on personal opinion/on what we heard instead of what we read.

4. We made a statement like we know everything. (banyak antara kita melayu muslim mengambil isi sesuatu sirah nabi/sejarah/itu sebagai satu kewajipan. sedang cerita itu hanya untuk memberi pengajaran. tapi yang peliknya kita tidak pula bersungguh-sungguh dengan perkara yang jelasnya wajib diamalkan)

5. Masalah kita melayu muslim ialah kita kurang membaca, cepat melenting tak nak terima pendapat orang dan suka berhujah dengan benda yang kita tidak mahir. ayat pertama/wahyu pertama turun adalah "bacalah dengan nama tuhan mu yang menciptakan". bila last kita baca quran dan baca terjemahannya? bila last kita baca buku atau kita hanya banyak membaca di FB dan blog?

nasihat untuk diri sendiri juga. berlapang dada lah bro2 sekalian. jangan emo. jgn marah marah k.

This post has been edited by mrashdi: May 20 2016, 12:44 PM

Malas nak komen. Malas nak berdebat atau explain kat orang bodoh.

Biar mati sorang dua anak dulu baru nak buka mata. Kalau yang jenis extra benak, dah anak mati pun ingat ketentuhan Ilahi, masih taknak keluar daripada kejahilan.

Ada bro, just nak share story atau tak je.

Kalau anak dia saja yg mati tu orang lain tak kesah pun. Masalahnye bila anak orang lain mati atas kejahilan dia.... Itu yg jadi isu.

Bukan aku tu. Aku amek screenshot ni di Fb jer.

Janji hannah mesra wuduk owai....

Hi, nak tahu, boleh ke tanya kat taska yg anak2 kat situ ada cucuk vaksin ke tak?

I fuken hate this type of malay conversation... why need to put hikhik, hihi, haha, hehe... fuck u... converse properly cannot ah? Everything must be a joke... whats more annoying if i converse normally without adding hehe, haha, huehue... or even emoji... they think i cari gaduh...

And what the hell is wrong with that abu hanna... "saya bukan ahli... saya bukan ahli" x paham soalan...

This post has been edited by h4r8_kIlLeR: May 20 2016, 01:16 PM

Dah kantoi petik nama nabi. Despise this kind of people

Here's a little background, simplified, on how vaccination works.

Basically what they are injecting into your body are weakened and neutered version of nasty buggers that kill people. Now, these nasty buggers are fixed to have at least 99% change to not reproduce. The 1% chance are the anomalies and will only matter when your body is unable to build the necessary antibody to kill them. This is why if you have as much as a cold you cannot get vaccinated.

The idea is based on a premise that if everyone has antibody to a virus, then this virus will be eventually wiped out, without the chance of mutation. If as much as one person lets the virus live long enough, there is a chance of mutation. Various factors can trigger a mutation like climate, diet, medication, and even existing health conditions.

Now the nightmare. If one un-vaccinated imbecile gets a deadly virus, and the bloody buggers prosper then mutate, the existing vaccine most likely won't work on it no more. So now you have a new outbreak of a potentially deadly virus that should have been wiped out because some tool is too full-of-sh*t to read.

Existing counter-measures post infection, is also unlikely to work on a mutated strain. Because all viral infections has an incubation period before showing symptoms, every newly infected poor sap becomes another source of infection. And there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Sure vaccines are added with other chemical compounds. Just like your frozen food and other organic material that needs to be preserved for consumption. This includes water from our taps.

If you are so concerned about having a lil mercury in your system, think about how you and your family will die when you get a mutated nastier version of small pox.

This post has been edited by allinuff: May 20 2016, 01:34 PM

Hik hik hik

Anti vaccine talibans.. hahaha

Someone tag allgap and icehart!
Geng diorg

I won't bother people like this. It's like listening to Tom Cruise's speech on Scientology.

Masa tu dia petik "itu kuasa dan kehendak Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala..."

boleh tahan bebal jugak abu hannah tu. soalan direct je kot.

can recommend/pm me this anti vaxx/penunggang agama fb page? i wanna peek what's inside.

group Masyarakat Kena Tahu.

Go there. I warn you, the level of ignorance there is too damn high.

>meleis
>muslim

topkek overload
If their child died they want to blame who?


#sabojela

This post has been edited by RalphRatedR: May 20 2016, 02:55 PM