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 VDSL2 Vectoring by TM, New technology that make copper 100mbps

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post Jul 14 2018, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Hummingbird @ Jul 14 2018, 12:25 PM)
VDSL has reached its peak at VDSL2 with vectoring, but it's not the end. Some countries have started to upgrade VDSL2 to new technology called G.Fast or even GX.Fast. The technology can reach gigabit level for copper wiring.
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I think it would be another white elephant project,if we really wannna deplay it nationalwidely....slow speed(if comparing to others countries) and expensive..
i mean the vectoring.
From our experience with ADSL (so called Streamyx thing)..
just my 2 cents.

QUOTE(Hummingbird @ Jul 14 2018, 12:25 PM)
VDSL has reached its peak at VDSL2 with vectoring, but it's not the end. Some countries have started to upgrade VDSL2 to new technology called G.Fast or even GX.Fast. The technology can reach gigabit level for copper wiring.
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yes,but their ADSL deployment is alotx better than ours since last decade, so it is make sense for them to invest some money to let the old DSL dinasours to spin a little more longer.

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post Oct 14 2018, 09:54 AM

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Just as MCMC has announced, government plans to phase out the copper based infrastructure in a few years time. So what TM gonna do with the heavily invested SUBB which based on the VDSL2 vectoring?
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post Oct 14 2018, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Hummingbird @ Oct 14 2018, 09:54 AM)
Just as MCMC has announced, government plans to phase out the copper based infrastructure in a few years time. So what TM gonna do with the heavily invested SUBB which based on the VDSL2 vectoring?
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SUBB which utilizing VDSL2 technology can also be considered as 'fiberization'. It also known as 'Fiber to The Cabinet' instead of 'Fiber To The Home' whistling.gif

I think government will only phasing out the first mile copper (from exchange to the street port/cabinet), the last mile from the cabinet to the residential area will still in operation.

Anyway, just my opinion. TM surely has invested a lot on replacing the ADSL port to VDSL2 port by upgrading the MSAN cabinet and I don't think they'll come back to the SUBB and implement FTTH to that particular area. sad.gif

Well, at least those 'lucky' in the SUBB will get 20Mbps if TM wish to implement that speed there. Things much more complicated in the 'grey' area, which doesn't falls as SUBB and HSBB. My area, considered as SUBB but TM didn't upgrade all the ADSL port to the VDSL2. mad.gif




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post Oct 14 2018, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Hummingbird @ Oct 14 2018, 09:54 AM)
Just as MCMC has announced, government plans to phase out the copper based infrastructure in a few years time. So what TM gonna do with the heavily invested SUBB which based on the VDSL2 vectoring?
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it is extremely difficult do phase out the copper as majority old housing area or even some new housing are still using copper (dun have fiber)
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post Oct 14 2018, 05:56 PM

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i am unifi lite 10mbps, got free upgrade last month 50mbps. and today i test my speed, download 70-80mbps and upload 50-60mbps. now, copper can get highest speed 100mbps. brows.gif


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post Oct 14 2018, 05:58 PM

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Another "vaporware" from TM... They just want easy $$$!!!
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post Oct 14 2018, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(amirul hafizz @ Oct 14 2018, 05:56 PM)
i am unifi lite 10mbps, got free upgrade last month 50mbps. and today i test my speed, download 70-80mbps and upload 50-60mbps. now, copper can get highest speed 100mbps. brows.gif
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Means you are using copper now?
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post Oct 15 2018, 05:35 AM

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QUOTE(ftfong700 @ Oct 14 2018, 06:54 PM)
Means you are using copper now?
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yess, copper user.
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post Oct 15 2018, 05:49 AM

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how to know if your unifi copper or fiber?
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post Oct 15 2018, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(amirul hafizz @ Oct 14 2018, 05:56 PM)
i am unifi lite 10mbps, got free upgrade last month 50mbps. and today i test my speed, download 70-80mbps and upload 50-60mbps. now, copper can get highest speed 100mbps. brows.gif
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r u staying high rise or landed?
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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Oct 15 2018, 11:33 AM)
r u staying high rise or landed?
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if i'm not mistaken he is in high rise..
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post Oct 15 2018, 11:50 AM

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It's quite amazing to reach 100Mbps with copper!
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post Oct 15 2018, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(nikrizal @ Oct 15 2018, 11:50 AM)
It's quite amazing to reach 100Mbps with copper!
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however, it only reach Max 100Mbps
moving forward, those in fully fiber can reach 500Mbps 800Mbps, or GB soon
at the end, VDSL2 still cannot cope or support those apps require high resolutions

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QUOTE(amirul hafizz @ Oct 14 2018, 05:56 PM)
i am unifi lite 10mbps, got free upgrade last month 50mbps. and today i test my speed, download 70-80mbps and upload 50-60mbps. now, copper can get highest speed 100mbps. brows.gif
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When you got download speed 70-80Mbps, did you do the upgrade to 100Mbps?


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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Oct 15 2018, 10:33 AM)
r u staying high rise or landed?
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yess, living in high rise building.
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QUOTE(AmyDazz @ Oct 15 2018, 12:10 PM)
When you got download speed 70-80Mbps, did you do the upgrade to 100Mbps?
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i am got free upgrade from 10 to 50mbps last month. when i make speed test, i got 70-80mbps. my unifi portal, still 50mbps advanced.
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QUOTE(amirul hafizz @ Oct 15 2018, 05:39 PM)
i am got free upgrade from 10 to 50mbps last month. when i make speed test, i got 70-80mbps. my unifi portal, still 50mbps advanced.
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thumbup.gif free upgrade, how much u pay per month?
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QUOTE(amirul hafizz @ Oct 14 2018, 05:56 PM)
i am unifi lite 10mbps, got free upgrade last month 50mbps. and today i test my speed, download 70-80mbps and upload 50-60mbps. now, copper can get highest speed 100mbps. brows.gif
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vdsl2 @ fiber ?

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post Oct 15 2018, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Oct 14 2018, 11:24 AM)
SUBB which utilizing VDSL2 technology can also be considered as 'fiberization'. It also known as 'Fiber to The Cabinet' instead of 'Fiber To The Home'  whistling.gif

I think government will only phasing out the first mile copper (from exchange to the street port/cabinet), the last mile from the cabinet to the residential area will still in operation.

Anyway, just my opinion. TM surely has invested a lot on replacing the ADSL port to VDSL2 port by upgrading the MSAN cabinet and I don't think they'll come back to the SUBB and implement FTTH to that particular area.  sad.gif 

Well, at least those 'lucky' in the SUBB will get 20Mbps if TM wish to implement that speed there. Things much more complicated in the 'grey' area, which doesn't falls as SUBB and HSBB. My area, considered as SUBB but TM didn't upgrade all the ADSL port to the VDSL2.  mad.gif
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Oh man, then those in the SUBB coverage are caught in the limbo!

No steady price reduction but there is no room for upgrade too. TM's PR and strategic officers are not really using brains huh...
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post Oct 15 2018, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(wanek @ Oct 15 2018, 07:22 PM)
vdsl2 @ fiber ?
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