Highway without bike lane is not safe for motorcycle, and motorcycle not supposed to use the middle and fast lane of a highway. Flesh vs metal who will win? Better ride slowly and safely next time.

Regardless of my experience of riding any type bike, it is common sense that riding a motorcycle is risker on the highway without bike lane, especially those superbikes who like to illegally overtake in between lanes and increase the chance of getting hit. Risk significantly overshadow reward. So until riders learn to ride like a car on highway and be treated by other cars as equal, it is in the best interest to riders and drivers alike and ban all motorcycles from riding on non-bike-laned highways for the sake of saving many lives and post accident hardship of both motorcycle riders and drivers.

This post has been edited by RicoT: Jul 15 2016, 08:46 AM

Cars driving like an asshole and if involved in accident is still metal vs. metal and fare much more better than biker flesh vs. car metal, it does not matter whoever drive/ride nicely or like an asshole. In the end, motorcyclist is always on the losing side. So why not use some common sense proactive thinking to minimize the risk? Ride on proper on bike lane. High power bikes have highbeam flasher, and should be riden as if you are driving a car on highway. If your bike doesn't have it, it is not meant for car lane highway use.

Bikes who ignore highway ethics and ride dangerously yet still ignorant about it, is just increasing the risk to get run over by cars/lorries/busses. Cars cant stop themselves hitting other vehicles, that is what you call accidents. But would you rather be on the receiving end on a motorcycle? What I am suggesting is to minimize the risk and loss, and yes if possible, get all motorcycles out of car lanes highways and into proper bike lanes.

I am merely pointing out these risks can be minimized and if possible, very avoidable.

It is not a matter of legality, but preserving lives and limbs of motorcyclists. Even so, lane splitting has ethics in doing so, and not zooming pass as fast as you can. As I said, motorcyclist flesh vs metal of a car, who will win? Car in accident, no big deal, repairable and claimable by insurance. Total loss? Replace another car. But motorcyclist lives and limbs is not something easily replacable.

There is no wrong as I am merely speaking out for better awareness among motorcyclists and stop being in a victimised mindset and start thinking of minimising risks. Imagine a game where all odds are against you, would you blame yourselves of being on the short end of the straw? Or think of the best possible method to play and minimise loss wile increase efficiency?

It is not for Quazacolt alone but for the whole biking community to think over of their biking mentality and risk mitigation. I too want to ride a bike but at the current state of things, it is not worth my limbs and life to riding a bike.

As I advocate, you get what you paid for. Motorcyclist paid no toll to highway operators and hence, the sad state of bike lanes now. Bike lanes have lower speed limit as there are no external protection on bikers when accidents happen, so ride slowly and firmly in bike lanes. Advocate for motorcyclist to be able to pay toll to have better maintained bike lanes. If riders cannot afford to pay the toll? Dont use highway and use normal roads as these roads are what roadtax paid for. Simple as that. Riding on purpose built bike lane highways is still safer than riding on car lane highways with cars/lorries/busses. There is nothing free in this world, I wouldnt mind paying extra RM0.20/toll for bike lane highways to save time, than gamble with lives and limbs on car lane highways. Harsh truth but this is one way to improve the current situation.

What you are try to say also applies to why can't people stop from falling down? It can't be prevented if motorcycles are on the road. So long you are walking, you will fall down at some point. But in the case of motorcycles vs cars, who get the worse losing end?

It is because not all highway are design for motorcycle to use, and those having one are not well maintained and monitored as it is not paid for by the users, i.e. motorcyclists.

When motorcyclist start paying toll, future highways operators will see the operation feasibility of including bike lanes in future highway designs. Else, they can either (a) ride slowly and extra careful on bad bike lanes, or (b) risk their limbs and lives riding on car lane highways.

Your current state is what I dreaded and currently, I feel it is not worth the hassle, pain, suffering, etc. to get a motorcycle, just for the fun of owning one. The reward is just not worth the risk.

A proper bike lane definitely will improve the safety of motorcyclists, and to get a proper bike lane is to start paying toll. Getting motorcycles off the car lanes and into bike lanes on highway. Your last statement also applies to motorcyclists riding fast between cars and knock off the side mirror and speeding away. If the injury to rider is not serious, the rider will run away, then car owners will only suffer economical loss, no big deal. But what if the injury is serious, broken bones, he can kiss his MC, EL, income good bye and even be suffering the consequences for the rest of his life.

Let cars deal with these crazy drivers. For that Audi, if the driver whack a car, where can he run? His engine is totaled or he might go turtle. So again my advice to bikers, please don't ride on car lanes, the reward is not worth your limbs and lives.