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MMO Tree Of Savior Ver 2.0, International Version

Will you continue playing this game
 
YES [ 104 ] ** [46.22%]
NO [ 58 ] ** [25.78%]
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post May 23 2016, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 23 2016, 12:27 PM)
only issue is i find myself using campfire more often these days even with cat familiar summon. It only takes under 15 seconds to max mana, but still firewood consumption = silver which is always not a good thing for a stingy person such as myself  rclxub.gif
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Luckily firewood is dirt cheap lol
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post May 23 2016, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ May 23 2016, 04:35 PM)
any guide on how to properly use early levels of pyromancer? dont know how to use the fireball thingy.. is it i cast then i kick it away?
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When u cast the fireball if u are in a party watch your teammates kick it away out of the map lol
If solo u can hit it into position when necessary
Party wise GL
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post May 24 2016, 03:41 PM

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Damn I'm actually over leveled for my quest area... No time to do quest...
Lvl 200 and I have yet to do vekti square quest (186 lvl map....)
Missions + dungeons actually over leveled me......
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post May 24 2016, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ May 24 2016, 03:48 PM)
Well mission and dungeons will over leveled you if you don't play much every day. For those that plays many hours a day...once they finish 3 dungeons and 3 missions per day they will rush for questing...so normally won't over leveled sweat.gif Unless they stop and grind hmm.gif
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T_T by the time I finish dungeon and missions late alr hahaha so weekday no time for questing..
Usually I do questing in weekends but guess that's not enough.. I actually miscalculated the lvl 190 dungeon experience....
3 searched runs in 190 dungeon + token actually gave me 2 and a half levels....
Plus missions in total I level 3 and a half levels @@
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post May 24 2016, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ May 24 2016, 03:55 PM)
Okay ma, over leveled is always better than under leveled. Under leveled and no exp card and no more quest then time to cry liao cry.gif

I am the same as you...not much time to play on weekdays as well sweat.gif
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Yea weekdays busy as hell haha
Talking about exp cards I still have 120++ lvl 8 cards and 30++ lvl 9 cards =.= guess I won't be running low in cards soon haha
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post May 24 2016, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(fishhy @ May 24 2016, 04:11 PM)
Yesterday just brought a sage wall recipe from the market, only 60k....... tongue.gif
but now the problem is when will i get 3 zircon, it's only 0.5% on 90dungeon  sad.gif

btw just killed 1500 varv and only get 14 skins rclxub.gif
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60k.... =.= sage wall cost u your soul in telseai hahaha
It's so expensive it's ridiculous
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post May 24 2016, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 24 2016, 04:48 PM)
60 thats a really good deal.

but i think even 300k was still good considering 4-5k kills can't find the recipe. so in terms of rarity it does price more than that i believe.

the issue is
1. is it better than an arde?
2. how easy is it to farm mats? zircon i'm finding is ridiculously hard. their priced around 800k roughly each... and you need 6 of them...
also even if you sell at 300k your gonna get taxed 30% so you'r not getting full 300k. hence why prices tend to be inflated to take into account those nasty marketplace taxes. so that 60k on market seems ridiculously low  rolleyes.gif
thought you had to pay to reset skill?  hmm.gif
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Zircon can be obtained from dungeon with an abysmal drop rate to bot like 1%
But 800k for zircon is stupidly overpriced in telseai it's around 30-40 talts ( 150-200k)
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post May 24 2016, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 24 2016, 05:04 PM)
oo dungeon can? nice good to know. i thought had to farm ceberus world boss so hard to find  rclxub.gif
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Haha farming will be so much easier seriously
Zircon ruby etc drop rate in dungeons as low as all the recipes...
Cerebrus is a popular world boss since its drops one of the most expensive recip.... Gladiator band
So cerebrus is camp very hard

This post has been edited by RaidMax: May 24 2016, 05:11 PM
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post May 26 2016, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(technoraver @ May 26 2016, 02:57 PM)
QS machine gun, ppl usually use what stats?
i heard some say full str some say full dex and some say half str half dex
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QUOTE(pineapplegrenade @ May 26 2016, 03:04 PM)
Sell all the drop you get from lvling that you don't need anymore. Try rush 130 dungeon and hope for multiple petamion drop. 1 petamion if im not mistaken is 5m. Use multiple character to farm dungeon if you have the will. I only use 1 char after discarding my swordman, so my income is slower.
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Only thing is pray to the RNG God lol
Multiple petamion if u really get u faster go buy lottery haha
But seriously what pineapple said above is true just run dungeons and missions
Yesterday I got lucky and got a Maga Rod. That's 3 million there lol
Even if u get talts only each talt is 5k it accumulates quite fast as well
A lot of ppl keep saying talts only talts only but will realise that talts is actually very useful at high lvl when looking for end game eq

This post has been edited by RaidMax: May 26 2016, 03:19 PM
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post May 26 2016, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(stinger @ May 26 2016, 03:29 PM)
does legwyn set useful for QS3? or shall I stick to Cafrisun to the end? What are the alternatives? dear musket seniors
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I'm not sure about Qs3 but usually just skip legwyn and go for Roxona since only 50 lvl apart
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post May 27 2016, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(jokeryuen120 @ May 27 2016, 08:58 AM)
Should I reroll my Manamana awakening? Now is earth property Atk19 or keep it
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Just keep it since its decent rerolling is wasting potential which can be use for upgrading instead
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post May 27 2016, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Ice BabY @ May 27 2016, 12:18 PM)
Wanna ask i have lvl85 Cataphract.. what set should i get? should i put gem on it or enhance it? or maybe wait for lvl120 set?
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I play cata as well here's my advice
Skip lvl 120 set. Around that lvl just use anything u can get your hands on that is cheap of course. Aim for the lvl 170 set in Roxona.
Gems don't bother till u get your high end gear in lvl 170 gear and slot gems that are at least lvl 5 and above. Don't forget to roast them.
As for type of gems just go with green for weapons even if u have max finestra. Green gems is the only decent gems for swordsman imo
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post May 27 2016, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Ice BabY @ May 27 2016, 12:26 PM)
mine is swordsman > peltasta > hoplite > cataphract.. how about equipment ans shield gem?
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Equipment yellow and red but if u have the luxury monster gems that up relevant skills on equipment is the best
If u using shield bettle back is a cheap alternative till u get something like aias
Gems for primary and secondary weapons always go green shield or sword or spear doesn't matter haha

This post has been edited by RaidMax: May 27 2016, 12:34 PM
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post May 27 2016, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(haukinyau @ May 27 2016, 03:31 PM)
yes, but u die faster than frog tanking monster if u up your STR swordman.

up Dex or Con for swordman...

Dex helps to dodge, increase your survival, and if lucky, can Critical for dmg

Con to increase HP, tank some magic, and reduce dmg incase cannot dodge.

STR? u dont do high dmg like archer/mage, so why waste time.
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This dex str debate has been argued to death lol
Con definitely all classes need con. No point being so squishy dead dps is no dps after all
On the issue of dex and str as a swordsman at ltr lvls str scales better and brings more advantage
Sure dex for invasion but u forget that if u are playing as a tank swordsman u don't need evasion u kite and use your manual blocking when necessary
U don't tank by standing still in front of mobs hoping your high dex will proc the mobs to miss u... That's not the way to tank in this game nor standing and holding C like a statue
If u want to go full tank swordy mine as well go with STR + CON with more emphasis on CON
Wanna go dmg route STR + DEX with more emphasis on STR plus some con unless u go fencer with is DEX heavy

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post May 27 2016, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(haukinyau @ May 27 2016, 04:21 PM)
Yes, i agree. but like i say, if u want DPS swordman, u cant even stand infront monster and spam your skill if you go STR.

Yes, i agree STR deals more dmg than Dex, but meh.... im so tired oledi about this Str vs Dex...

I like my full dex Cata, u can do whatever STR barbarian doppler etc...

I enjoy looking at the words Dodge and Cri appear on my screen.

Try pvp me if u have time... i wanna test out my character as well. (not to prove anything, just pvp to kill time)
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Ps I'm also a cata lol
Anyway u up STR not to be the main dmg dealer obviously.. Is to help clear the mobs faster
A full tank swordy with little dmg actually slows down a party cause u can only tank can't kill effectively
An offensive tank is much more useful
That's just my opinion Haha
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post May 29 2016, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(jokeryuen120 @ May 28 2016, 07:06 PM)
guys need expert help, windrunner recipe rm150 worth it ? (not sure if this is appropriate to ask here)
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RM150 for a piece of boots ouch
I dunnoe about spending real money on items like that thought hmm.gif
Cause the items u need u can get slowly. Eventually u will farm up silver get rare items to sell etc lol
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post May 29 2016, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 28 2016, 08:20 PM)
any rod suggestions?

yes maga rod best but... whats more easier to get?

i heard tilly rod is good... anything else?

khasti rod has magic amplification and aoe defense +1 and a perk to bonus damage against cloth..
PS: yeah stay away from the SP stats in gear. SPR is still good to have though INT > SPR if possible ?
saw a 3 cryo mage want to trade maga 1hd rod. i counter offer with 1 audra staff and 1 roxona cloth boot, no deal... saw her gear is bad so she could use upgrade. but she want catacomb..... o well  sad.gif
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Lol in Telsiai Audra is more expensive than Maga Rod (Just Sold my Maga Rod haha) and Catacombs Staff is dirt cheap
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post May 29 2016, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 29 2016, 03:31 PM)
i'm not a cryo expert, but on reddit they said that audra is best for PVE/PVP especially PVE part. so how would you rate the audra vs say catacombs staff for a cryomancer?

cauz this one cryo c3 wanted a catacomb to trade for their maga rod recipe  hmm.gif
Right now i'm using a plain Ring rod but at least is req 170 which is close to my lv... but i want tilly rod that actually helps my summon or something like that xd.

I could have traded my audra for a arche dagger which someone wanted to do, but at this point arde dagger isn't going to help my build....
i got the health stone
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/582111/

which upgrades to conqueror's but it has SP.... maybe a maga would fix that xd. cauz the hp, hp/sp regen are all good.. just only that +SP not so good.
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/583101/
wizard bracelet upgrades to the  archmage bangle which also isn't helpful since -SPR. so that seems like a dead end item for sorc.
control bangle seems good starting out but long term 3int doesn't seem to be enough
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/602106/
so how about glass bracelet? but does block penetration work for mages? but anyway basically it has a ton of magic defense on it. seems like better than only 3int, defense wise?
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/602111/

also need star bracelet to upgrade into glass bracelet
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/601136/
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Im no expert in wizard but here is what i know so far

For Sorcerer= Maga Rod is your end game rod

For Cryo= Yes Audra is the best weapon atm for a cryo

For Linker= Ignition as the burn effect + links is actually pretty OP

Note imo ignition is good for linker other wizard class unless u got silver to splurge there is better rods imo

Catacombs staff errrrrr mind as well get a superior corona rod (Of course it must be upgraded fairly high) a +8 above superior corona rod actually puts out a very high raw damage if i am not mistaken hmm.gif

And please dont trade audra for arde it is not worth it lol

Any wizard expert can feel free to clarify the above smile.gif
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post May 29 2016, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 29 2016, 05:15 PM)
i saw another sorc use magic talisman. i got the recipe.
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/582105/
is that better than the health stone i'm using? it has fewer magic defense though, also i'll be dropping hp. I kinda messed up with the 3:1 ratio since i thought actually do that in attributes spent. when actually the ratio is for your total tallied. So i'm slightly behind on con  rolleyes.gif  so this health stone props up my health a bit to make up for it.
i upgraded my old bracelet (not zachariel) to rune bracelet. I found a good deal on 20k on recipe, and i had the mats already. i didn't want to splurge on star bracelet till i knew that block penetration did anything for me. Also noticing its a regular recipe i could farm it myself in the higher lvs and save silver. but i did need a placeholder to hold me till then thats why i got rune bracelet since it's not that far off.
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Well ratio wise u dont need to follow exactly the exact ratio as long as + - is about the same.

Magic Talisman or Health Stone depends which u need more i guess. If u feel uncomfortable with the amount of hp u have guess go with health stone. Since how much HP u need is subjective to your playing style, ie some ppl feel more safe with more hp others give up that safety margin to output more dps so it comes down to preference imo.

As for block penetration I'm not sure whether it works for magic though haha need an expert to clarify that

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post May 30 2016, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ May 30 2016, 01:54 PM)
For Wizards, cloth glove gives magic amplification which is good. 3 x Plate is enough since 4 x plate give extra stamina only unless you felt like the extra % damage reduction worth replacing cloth glove to plate glove hmm.gif

Petamion and the material to craft max petamion can cost a bomb...be ready to spend a lot or else your max petamion recipe is not much use.

In Telsiai, Petamion itself could cost almost 6 million to craft. The material to craft max petamion also could reach 2-3 million. Rare ore like Mithril ore, ruby and zircon is a headache cause they don't sell it in market. Have to shout and look for buyer sweat.gif
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This.... Took me a lot of time to finally get my max petamion
Mithril ore was the biggest culprit... All the sellers are over inflating the damn ore to ridiculous levels..
Luckily bought one for 60 talts whilst the other I got lucky as it was listed in the market for 200k in the morning

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