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howszat
post May 3 2016, 08:55 PM

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PB used to be a pretty good, reliable, solid, predictable and sensible bank.

For some reason, their marketing department has been taken over by a bunch of clowns who conjure up all sort of gimmicky promotions and turn banking into a circus where you need to participate by SMS.

Why can't I just go to the bank (or visit online) and deposit funds into my account because it gives the best rates without having to fxxx around with the unnecessary calculations, or worry about a typo in my SMS?

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post May 16 2016, 09:09 PM

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People forget and keep looking at 5% (and think wow!)

The real calculation is something like this - if you deposit now:

- about 2.5 months (till end of July) out of 12 = 0.208
- 5% means an additional 1.4% about current FD rates

Meaning effective gain over normal FD = 0.208 * 1.4 = 0.29%.

So in reality, you are getting an additional 0.29%, AND NOT 5%.

PS: And if you have prematurely uplifted your FD, transfer out/in and told it's not fresh funds, that's even sadder.

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post May 16 2016, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 16 2016, 07:13 PM)
Based on my understanding from the above TnC, E.g. one can sms register today and open a new BSA and place RM1 million today, then withdraw RM1 million 19 days later on 4th June, he will still earn 5% + 0.5% on a incremental ADB of RM250K for 76 days.

Please share your thought.
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That sounds right. The question is whether it is worthwhile.

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post May 17 2016, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 17 2016, 11:29 AM)
For extra 1.5% over the next 2.5 months, the extra interest gained on 300k ADB is RM937.50 over FD placement.
The only effort one need to put up is just write a chq and pop into the chq deposit machine. Free and easy money, why not?
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If you have spare money doing nothing, sure just write a cheque. But there are two issues here:

1. you have spare money doing nothing. Well, you shouldn't (it would take to long to explain if you don't understand that point)
2. if you had to uplift your other FD(s) to invest in this promotion, the calculations are no longer that simple.

I trust that addresses your why-nots.

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post May 17 2016, 11:19 PM

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>> 1. This topic is talking about putting money in PBB @ 5.6%. If you want to learn about other investment options with better returns, there are many other topics discussing about it in this forum.

This topic is talking about EFFECTIVE RETURNS for this specific promotion. The effective return is a lot less that 5.x%. Why? Because:

a. It is only for short term
b. I have never said anything about other investments,
c. Your arithmetic sucks when you don't know anything about how to calculate effective returns.

>> 2. Why do you have to uplift your FD knowing that the premature withdrawal penalty is going to cost more then 1.6% extra interest? You don't need rocket science to understand this.

If you don't uplift your other FDs, where are you going find the money to just sign a cheque? Where would the money be coming from?
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post May 19 2016, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 19 2016, 12:27 AM)
You seriously need to go back to school to re-learn what Effective Annual Rate is all about before self inflicting more embarrassment in a public forum.

How can you compare a 2.5 months placement with a 12 months placement as a fair comparison and concluded that the extra gains from the 2.5 months placement is not worth it as compare to 12months placement ? That's incredibly silly ! Unless you came from stone-age era without any concept of TIME, it's common sense to re-invest your money in FD or other financial instruments after the first 2.5months placement completed.
The switch over from MBB @ 4%p.a. to PBB @ 5.6%p.a, i gain additional 1.6%p.a. interest.
1.6% p.a. is still 1.6% p.a. be it over 2.5 months or over 12 months, you understand ?
You can't simply stretch the 1.6% p.a. effective rate with 2.5/12 in order to tune down the gain to 0.xx% over 12 months period and use it as a comparison on a 2.5 month tenure. That's absurd and foolish comparison.
Look, stop twisting around with the silly 0.xx%, Lets talk real figures. With 300k ADB @ 1.6%p.a (bonus 5% + base 0.6%) @ 2.5 month. My extra interest gain is RM1000 within 2.5 months. Come on, prove me wrong.
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You missed the whole point completely, again.

That if you don't invest for the full 12 months, you don't get the benefits of the 5% for the full 12 months.

The public? They can also see how you missed the point completely, and continue to argue about something else that I wasn't even discussing. The public can judge for themselves, so you don't really need to worry about them.
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post May 19 2016, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(METALRAGE @ May 19 2016, 08:45 PM)
Im not here to flame you but would like to set things straight, since one of your earlier comments called me out for being stupid.
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My apologies, as none of that was meant for you.

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post May 20 2016, 09:15 PM

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The public can judge for themselves, I'm not wasting anymore time on this.
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post May 21 2016, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 21 2016, 12:24 AM)
Yesterday, it was missing a point....today....public judgment...can you do better than these nonsense ?
The public can clearly see your lack of understanding on a bank's deposit interest rate which is always expressed in p.a. (Per Annum) and the need to pro rate for placement tenure lesser or longer than 12 months.

I quote METALRAGE again, DROP THE CONDESCENSION !!
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Please do not drag/quote other posters into this.

Please do not speak for the public too. What the public can see, they can decide for themselves.

You are not their spokesman.




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post May 21 2016, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 21 2016, 12:57 AM)
Why are you afraid of other poster ? Why drag the public in then ? So this argument is between you and me, please counter my post #40 one by one.
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Not interested in wasting time on your irrelevant points when you don't understand the essential point.

End of discussion. Good night.






 

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