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METALRAGE
post May 5 2016, 03:29 PM

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It's actually bloody good 5% p.a. It's even higher than my housing loan interest.

Gonna give it a go. But mafan abit la. Thanks!

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post May 16 2016, 04:53 PM

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I SMS registered on 15 May 2016 (Sun). Today, 16 May, I transferred out my funds from my PB FD to another bank via OTC IBG so that I can transfer back in the funds to PBB tomorrow. Because 5% interest rate is even higher than my refinance housing loan.

While waiting, I casually checked with the branch manager, they said money transferred out and in again will not be counted, because PBB knows I took money out from PBB to put it back into the SA. And that will be tracked across all my accounts I maintain with PBB, not just the SA in question.

This, I'm not pleased to hear because it wasn't stated clearly inside their product disclosure sheet. It just said fresh funds. And in previous banks, I had done this before and it works.

I guess being Chinaman (don't even have an FB page), PBB is just a bit too clever. But they did not consider how pissed off a customer like me would be for wasting effort and foregone interest to find out at the end of the campaign period i got a big fat zero. It's a good thing I checked!

I think I'll keep my money out of PBB for now. Perhaps for good.

Those thinking to do the same thing I did, be warned.
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post May 16 2016, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Nom-el @ May 16 2016, 05:56 PM)
Based on my understanding, transferring the money out to other banks and then transferring it back in should be counted as fresh fund. However, it would affect your average daily balance (ADB). Meaning, if you transferred the money out today & only transferred the money back in tomorrow, the average balance would decrease resulting in lower incremental ADB (in your case, negative incremental ADB). Meaning you would need to transfer more money in in order to maintain the same ADB. In order to avoid that, you should not have registered on 15 May. Instead, you should have registered on 17 May, then the baseline would be the balance on 16 May. 

If you transfer money from your other PBB accounts like FD or CASA into your savings account, then I agree it would not be considered as fresh fund. Else, it should be considered as fresh fund. But I don't know for sure since I don't work for the bank. However, be careful with the advice given by bank's staff as some are known to be giving out wrong info to customers, even those senior officers.
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Thank you good sir.

My funds were never in my CASA. But they were in PB FD, which i instant transferred out to another bnkvia IBG over the counter (Never passed my PBB CASA). In this case, the bank manager said money transferred back in won't be considered. I have to top up beyond what I transferred out today.

I called up their general hotline and the person over the phone confirmed this is her understanding as well.

For all the effort and foregone premature upliftment of FD, I am quite unhappy. I had done something similar with Hong Leong and Alliance in the past and it was fine (Transfer out and in the next day).

PBB should really clarify this in their T&Cs. I wonder who the product manager is.
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post May 16 2016, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 16 2016, 07:13 PM)
You made the right decision to stay away from this campaign because you probably violated TnC clause 2.6

2.6 The funds used to participate in this Campaign must be from fresh funds.
“Fresh funds” refer to funds that do not originate from any existing deposit
account(s) of the Eligible Participant maintained with PBB or PIBB.
Below are definition of ADB and Incremental ADB copied from the TnC

ADB @ 31 July 2016 = Sum of day end balances from the date of SMS registration until 31 July 2016 divide by Total number of days from the date of SMS registration until 31 July 2016

Incremental ADB = ADB @ 31 July 2016 minus Day end balance on the previous day of SMS Registration (i.e. day end balance @ 4 May 2016)

Based on my understanding from the above TnC, E.g. one can sms register today and open a new BSA and place RM1 million today, then withdraw RM1 million 19 days later on 4th June, he will still earn 5% + 0.5% on a incremental ADB of RM250K for 76 days.

Please share your thought.
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TQ. Indeed I missed out that clause.
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post May 19 2016, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ May 17 2016, 11:19 PM)
>> 1. This topic is talking about putting money in PBB @ 5.6%. If you want to learn about other investment options with better returns, there are many other topics discussing about it in this forum.

This topic is talking about EFFECTIVE RETURNS for this specific promotion. The effective return is a lot less that 5.x%. Why? Because:

a. It is only for short term
b. I have never said anything about other investments,
c. Your arithmetic sucks when you don't know anything about how to calculate effective returns.

>> 2. Why do you have to uplift your FD knowing that the premature withdrawal penalty is going to cost more then 1.6% extra interest? You don't need rocket science to understand this.

If you don't uplift your other FDs, where are you going find the money to just sign a cheque? Where would the money be coming from?
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Im not here to flame you but would like to set things straight, since one of your earlier comments called me out for being stupid.

1) I made a calc on fd early withdrawal foregone interest. Do u know how many days interest was foregone for you to make the assumption tht it is less optimal? No.

But i do. And from my calc then, doing that for pbb 5.5% p.a. (hell even if just 5%p.a.) for even 2.5 months still comes out tops. Hence, i withdrew to transfer out n wanted to transfer in next day. But only found out those types of funds are not counted. So i ended up wasting those few days interest.

I didnt fail at calc. I failed at minor tnc.

2) There are other liquid sources of funds. Redraw facilities of loans. Trust accounts in brokers, money market funds that do not incur penalties and can be withdrawn in 0-2 days TAT.

If someone like aeiou can swing 300k at the drop of a hat, chances are he is pretty savvy about money.

Drop the condescension.

 

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