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Sony-Ericsson :: Sony Ericsson M600/P990/W950 ::, [ UIQ 3 ] For Life

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post Feb 16 2007, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(sonyclie77 @ Feb 16 2007, 12:29 AM)
No OT talk here please. smile.gif
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QUOTE(wizardboy @ Feb 16 2007, 03:10 AM)
version R9 is a little faster but i'm still not so happy with it
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ooo...everything works well? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(seongmeng @ Feb 16 2007, 10:22 AM)
i just flashed my p990i to R9,i realize 1 problem, that is when typing sms or note, i cannot use the "enter" function,it is used to when u press 4 time # key in writing the note or sms, the cursor will move down to next line.but now it just an arrow apear in the text...so strange....
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hmmm....really...you face that kind of problems? hmm.gif
anyone with the latest firmware faced like seongmeng? unsure.gif
thought it's getting better...but another problems came in... tongue.gif

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post Feb 16 2007, 11:24 PM

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I found this review from mobique.com
does this problem still persist?


Battery: choice limited to BST-33 cell type only

Once again, the limitation in battery choice was a little something that I wasn't too happy about.
Given that both the BST-33 and the newer (and higher-capacity) BST-34 are virtually identical in their physical sizing, with the exception of their thickness (being quite marginal), Sony Ericsson could've done something with the M600i design to allow for the option of a higher-capacity cell. An extra millimetre or two, especially for a 3G-enabled model, would NOT have made the difference between a buy-don't-buy situation.
And for the business user, being able to get more bang out of a single battery charge is - without question - a big plus over the need to try and keep the thickness of a phone to a bare minimum. Don't forget that the M600i is a business-orientated product!


Messaging: trying to get third-party client support can be a nightmare
My search for an M600i-compatible BlackBerry Connect client ended after doing several Google searches (with different keywords). And guess where I finally ended up downloading the SIS file from? From an Indonesian mobile operator's support page, which had all the different BlackBerry Connect clients (for different platforms) available. Just how funny is that huh?!
Well, to be honest, I wasn't at all impressed. Why was it necessary for me to scourge around the Internet looking for something that should've been hosted by Sony Ericsson themselves? Even Nokia makes their BlackBerry Connect clients available for download through the "Biz Software" app on their Eseries devices, which also automatically installs upon transfer completion.
Doing a search on the Sony Ericsson site resulted in nothing solid - only information on what third-party push email services are supported (duh!) And trying out the apps that take me to the software market pages via the M600i's in-built Opera browser only clocked up more data charges onto my account!
If you're an individual customer looking to own an M600i for its push email capabilities, remember to make sure that the necessary apps and clients are in place. Corporates looking at the M600i will probably have these deployed onto the devices by their mobile network operators anyway... who knows!


Organiser: alarms don't sound when phone is in 'silent' mode
Why is there no option on the M600i that would allow alarms to be audible whilst the smartphone is in silent mode? Or maybe, I should just ask "why the heck doesn't the alarms go off?!"
I have a habit of using my phone as my personal alarm clock - which, of course, is to help me wake up on time in the morning. For some reason, during my first week with the M600i, I found myself sleeping overtime... WAY overtime (yes, I enjoy my slumber moments). Having thought it was my own ears playing tricks on me, I decided to get another alarm (or phone) as backup.
And it was only on the third day that I realised that M600i's alarm wasn't actually making any sound whatsoever - except for the vibrating noises it makes when the "silent alarm" goes off! At that time, I didn't quite understand what was going on - but after some experimentation with the not-so-smart-phone, the answer to the presented dilemma was "don't silent the phone if you want an alarm to go off".
Now, that's simply absurd! I've never come across any phone (or smartphone) where an audible alarm doesn't actually sound, even in silent mode. Probably the only ones that have been like that are the past P-Series models from Sony Ericsson.
It would be nice if they had an "alarm sounds even when in silent mode" option on the M600i, and any future models that Sony Ericsson plans on releasing (the P990i is probably the next to exhibit this same issue).


UI: phone system still very unstable, even after two firmware upgrades
At the time of this review, the latest phone software version for the M600i was R4A002 - and Sony Ericsson has stuck with this version for quite some time already, which probably means that they feel it is "stable" enough for use.
But after having used the M600i extensively since the upgrade, I am still finding stability issues with the phone. The biggest problem was with the phone restarting itself sporadically (at least once every 2-3 days) - and the reason given being "to improve overall phone performance". Yeah... fine, but just not when I'm in the middle of doing something - and without any sort of notification whatsoever!
However, when compared to the previous major release, R3A004, the upgraded M600i was indeed more stable (and problem-free) than before.


Usability: slower-than-expected response times from smartphone UI
The overall responsiveness of the M600i UI is no comparison to the lightning speeds of the P910i. Not to say the M600i was unbearable when it came to its use - but this will probably come as a major shock to those existing UIQ 2.1 users who've grown accustomed to the finer workings of their smartphone device.
This will be something that Sony Ericsson needs to work on improving. "Tolerable" is how I'd describe the responsiveness of the UIQ 3 platform at this stage.

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post Feb 17 2007, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(nicholas84 @ Feb 16 2007, 11:24 PM)
UI: phone system still very unstable, even after two firmware upgrades
At the time of this review, the latest phone software version for the M600i was R4A002 - and Sony Ericsson has stuck with this version for quite some time already, which probably means that they feel it is "stable" enough for use.
But after having used the M600i extensively since the upgrade, I am still finding stability issues with the phone.  The biggest problem was with the phone restarting itself sporadically (at least once every 2-3 days) - and the reason given being "to improve overall phone performance".  Yeah... fine, but just not when I'm in the middle of doing something - and without any sort of notification whatsoever!
However, when compared to the previous major release, R3A004, the upgraded M600i was indeed more stable (and problem-free) than before.

Usability: slower-than-expected response times from smartphone UI
The overall responsiveness of the M600i UI is no comparison to the lightning speeds of the P910i.  Not to say the M600i was unbearable when it came to its use - but this will probably come as a major shock to those existing UIQ 2.1 users who've grown accustomed to the finer workings of their smartphone device.
This will be something that Sony Ericsson needs to work on improving.  "Tolerable" is how I'd describe the responsiveness of the UIQ 3 platform at this stage.
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Not sure about other problems, but the above 2, has been addressed in the latest firmware. Navigation is quite speedy and it seldom restarts compared to previous firmwares. So I guess its really improving by the day.

I've got no problems at all with my W950i. smile.gif
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:34 AM

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Look at this.

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Looks nice. But still no camera though.

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post Feb 18 2007, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(G-Izzat @ Feb 17 2007, 11:34 AM)
Look at this.

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Looks nice. But still no camera though.
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cant see the images? hmm.gif

anyway...GONG XI FATT CHOI to everyone!!! rclxms.gif

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post Feb 18 2007, 11:18 AM

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how bout now?
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post Feb 18 2007, 11:41 AM

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Still no, but I right click > View Image then it will come out

EDIT: Thats weird, after I post this, the image appears rclxub.gif

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post Feb 18 2007, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(G-Izzat @ Feb 18 2007, 11:18 AM)
how bout now?
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nope...nothing appear? unsure.gif


QUOTE(Najmods @ Feb 18 2007, 11:41 AM)
Still no, but I right click > View Image then it will come out
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yups...right hand click and view image then come out...
anyway...the phone look bit funny(for me laugh.gif )... smile.gif
color also not really that match with the phone... cool.gif

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post Feb 18 2007, 11:55 AM

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I quite agree with you. It looks a bit weird. Still a prototype though. I think it's called Lizy for now.
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post Feb 18 2007, 12:13 PM

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Lizy? What a name for a phone? Honestly, M600i is prettier looking that this one. It's a step behind to be honest in terms of its design and layout. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Feb 18 2007, 12:13 PM)
Lizy? What a name for a phone? Honestly, M600i is prettier looking that this one. It's a step behind to be honest in terms of its design and layout.  shakehead.gif
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some more...what's with the SE 123 labeled... rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 18 2007, 12:22 PM

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Apparently phones with a metal finishing is the rage nowadays.

The pics are not showing anyway, so here goes. smile.gif

user posted image user posted image

And yes, I agree with sunauto, the M600i is much better looking at this stage. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 19 2007, 12:08 AM

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I hope they're not planning to release such a phone into the market, I seriously doubt that it will sell well. Since the picture is heavily pixelated, it might be a fake too. After W880i doh.gif , we certainly don't want another lame looking phone from SE. sweat.gif
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post Feb 21 2007, 10:31 AM

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I'm considering on getting a M600i
So far, for those m600i users do you encounter any serious problem?
Is it good in usage?
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post Feb 21 2007, 10:46 AM

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Jit,
the m600 is quite excellent actually. if u update the firmware to the latest firmware,i'm sure you'll have little trouble with it.
Been using it for 4 months now. Never had a serious problem with it.


Added on February 21, 2007, 10:48 amoh,btw,guys.
to those who have the p990 and wants to change it to the generic world version,do inform me.

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anyone here know where to find the chinese user manual for p990i? thanks
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post Feb 21 2007, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(G-Izzat @ Feb 21 2007, 10:46 AM)
Jit,
the m600 is quite excellent actually. if u update the firmware to the latest firmware,i'm sure you'll have little trouble with it.
Been using it for 4 months now. Never had a serious problem with it.


Added on February 21, 2007, 10:48 amoh,btw,guys.
to those who have the p990 and wants to change it to the generic world version,do inform me.
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erksss...wah!...now become p990i technician already? laugh.gif
if want to buy p990i,are you selling it?just kidding... icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Feb 21 2007, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Feb 21 2007, 05:36 PM)
erksss...wah!...now become p990i technician already? laugh.gif
if want to buy p990i,are you selling it?just kidding... icon_rolleyes.gif
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i just found out a way on how to change it. might be trying it on my m600 later. smile.gif
if it is successful,maybe i can do business around here. haha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(G-Izzat @ Feb 21 2007, 06:01 PM)
i just found out a way on how to change it. might be trying it on my m600 later.  smile.gif
if it is successful,maybe i can do business around here. haha  laugh.gif
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ooo...good good...all the best in trying it... thumbup.gif
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post Feb 22 2007, 05:15 PM

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the cda change process worked and works fine.
just updated my phone to the generic world version.
before this i have the cda/8 version. now i have the cda/1.

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