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davwon
post Oct 12 2016, 12:48 PM

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FACTS PLUCK FROM THE AIR?
So fast forgot what written earlier...lol

Back to EC, some banker may give you some beautiful picture for subsales financing but you must understand the approval for loan are done in respective HQ.... The credit department are not optimistic as you think.....

Just few cents info from my 'little' bird in credit dept.

Bon voyage
davwon
post Sep 26 2017, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(savvyaunty @ Sep 26 2017, 06:40 PM)
after the DIBS issue still got ppl wanna BBB?
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No pain no gain.... suffer first then gain... lol blush.gif
davwon
post Sep 27 2017, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 27 2017, 08:23 AM)
same person vs acut last time and then now lawan mkh
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the same person who is also well know as difficult person in advertising industry....
Don't ask me, i also heard from top honcho in A&P agency....
that's why in the end run own agency cos wanna 'do it my way'....
davwon
post Jan 24 2019, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(ahsoh @ Jan 24 2019, 05:16 PM)
Wait til it become Desa Complex? 😁
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a least desa complex completed...lol

this desa complex just need to refurbish 100% and they could be the next hot spot due to MRT2 & KTM station across the road... notice there's tour buses use the parking lot beside the complex as the pickup & drop off point.

High potential i should say.

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davwon
post May 29 2019, 09:55 AM

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Same buying scenario from 8 years ago, a boutique developer try go big... Way bigger than their head... The only reference point of success are few small past achievements.... Maybe we should see what's the recent delivery standard by this white knight.... And mind you this is basically a revival project not from ground zero. Better safe than sorry. Bon voyage optimistic buyer.

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post May 29 2019, 12:28 PM

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Well little boy upset apparently. So you know about the white knight internal operation and their deal with the owner ya? Then you should have the same info i have as i also deal with one of the party. They need to cover a lot of holes before they can discharge the land. And do you know how big or deep the holes? Pray you could get the strata title on time or you can forget about subsale. or leasing out forever maybe. lol. keep up your 'good' work here lil boy or girl.

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post May 31 2019, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(propertybuddy @ May 31 2019, 10:46 AM)
See the catch is there.. Empire (meh) ensure to complete the rest..

But track record wise, they couldnt

So what's good that they brought in white knight Exsim, Binastra, Ak
1. They r loaded, obviously
2. They have good past record completing projects. That's the most basic things

What's the concern then,  if these concerns are address, we believe EC success rate would significantly better
1. A marriage of 2 parties can turn sour. Like Genting vs Disney & Century Fox, what about 3 parties.. There isnt a single master developer. A development of this size claimed to be as MV2, but none r a master developer, so what if they hv different visions / interest.  Would the marriage turns out well?  Is there any mega development like this with 2 or more Dev turns out well?
2. The 3 white Knight, similarly doesn't have successful mix Dev or mall developments yet.
3. There are stiff competition interms of mall in Damansara
possible solutions?
a) Run in house - maybe inexperience, bcos all there Dev don't have any track record running one yet.
b) Let Meh run - questionable, let's not hope it gonna delay and delay again
c) Let mall management consultant run the show - involve from the beginning design the mall, ensure balance mix of retails, theme of the mall (differentiating it from 1U, Starling, 3D, Atria...)

Jz our 2 cents.. A neutral post from a little potato..
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Finally someone say what in my mind. Very straight to the point.
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post Jun 1 2019, 03:21 PM

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Just few days we start discuss MEH capability and debt obligations, suddenly today got announcement. Seems like someone is watching. Lol.


Latest status: Exsim In, Aset Kayamas Out & what about Binastria?


https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1546174/mam...-city-damansara

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EdgeProp.my / June 01, 2019
Mammoth-Exsim JV to complete Empire City Damansara

Launched in 2011 by Mammoth Empire Holding Sdn Bhd (MEH), the RM5 billion Empire City Damansara (ECD1) may finally be completed in a joint venture (JV) with Exsim Group.


From the "Party of the Century" where Paris Hilton attended, to lend glitz to the mall and upcoming development, to reports of MEH having insufficient funds and of construction delays for ECD1, the rough waters may soon be calm, as Datuk Danny Cheah tells The Edge that the next two months will see MEH clear RM300 million of its debts from loans taken from AmBank and Maybank.

"Soon we will not have that kind of pressure [to settle the outstanding loans] and the group can start afresh," he says to the publication.

Sale of multiple assets to Exsim, including a 65-acre tract meant for Empire City Damansara 2 in PEtaling Jaya and 4.5 acres of undeveloped land that was a part of ECD1 have seen reports peg the value at RM800 million, though neither Cheah nor Exsim have confirmed the price tag.

About reports that Aset Kayamas Group had paid RM236 million (RM270.90 per sq ft) for 20 acres of the 65 available, Cheah says the deal had been terminated by mutual agreement by both parties.

"There were certain condition precedent, which could not be met, so both parties (MEH and Aset Kayamas) decided to terminate the sales and purchase agreement last year and the money has been refunded [to them]. Exsim is now the [sole] owner of the 65 acres of land," says Cheah.

Michelle Siew, the head of corporate communications at Exsim says its entry into the project is as a strategic partner to MEH for the ECD1 project, and not as a white knight.

"We are JV partners and we see this so-called problem as an opportunity. We like the concept of ECD and its strategic location," says Michelle Siew, head of corporate communications at Exsim.


The JV company plans to complete the outstanding five developments (with some changes to be made to a few of the hotel blocks under construction, which Cheah says will be apartments instead of hotels) for ECD1, with its gross development value (GDV) of close to RM800 million. Two of the projects are called QUB and QUAD+, which comprise multipurpose suites, the MacGuffin Hotel, the Autograph luxury hotel and Tower G.

Completion is expected within the next two years, with each component taken up by a special-purpose vehicle set up by Exsim and MEH.

The HCK Tower, still under construction is slated to be completed by first quarter 2020.

Exsim will have full control over the developments on the 4.5 and 65 acres while MEH has been tasked with ensuring the connecting infrastructure is completed.

Exsim's plans for the 4.5 acres is two developments called Mossaz Tower and Paxtonz Tower, which have a combined GDV of over RM690 million. Mossaz Tower will be a 39-storey tower with 1,117 suites from 314 to 494 sq ft, while Paxtonz Tower will consist of 775 suites with cuilt-ups of 332 to 526 sq ft within a 23-storey block.

"We see a growing demand for compact suites due to their versatility. The Mossaz and Paxtonz towers are designed to cater for young entrepreneurs," says Siew.

Expected completion is in 48 months, with a soft launch scheduled this month.


Exsim plans to turn the 65-acre tracts into a mixed-use development with a GDV of RM9 billion. The first phase is affordable houses (rumah mampu milik) scheduled to be launched in September.

Exsim will not be involved in the Empire City Mall, having no experience in such projects, while MEH will be using its entitlements from the JV to fund the completion of the mall.

Now at 80% completion, the mall is expected to be completed in the next two years, but only fully open for business in 2022.

"Previously, we had a different [way] of thinking. The direction in the last three years had been to provide a lot of incentives to retailers, including international brands, to come in, thus we spent millions of ringgit in capex to lure them [as tenants] for the mall.

"However, we had a rethink of this direction in the past year and we realised that we were actually wrong. If the retailers come in with us spending the millions but there are no customers, they would need to close shop and leave," says Cheah.

"So now, we have [realigned] the focus to get the population in first by completing all the high-rise development surrounding the mall, then the retailers will be knocking on our doors [and not the other way around] and we would have more favourable terms in terms of rental [agreements].

"In the next six to nine months, we expect to complete the infrastructure portion, which is the bridges connecting to the mall. [Previously,] we were affected by the delays in the construction of the Damansara-Shah Alam Elevated Expressway (DASH) as there is some interfacing between our project and theirs. As we understand that the national interest should come first, we have decided to let them complete their part first before proceeding with ours," he adds.

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