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TSchanhin
post Apr 23 2016, 11:00 PM, updated 10y ago

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Hi guys,

Can someone recommend a good cooler that is available in the market for my planned new system? My previous system (very old) was using oversized Zalman and it was really good. Even I pull out the power for the fan, the temperature can remain below 50 degree without air-con.

However, I noticed Zalman air cooling seems no longer popular...

Any suggestion? Budget is flexible...

Requirements;

(1) Lowest temperature
(2) Easy to clean the fins. Expecting to clean every 3 months.
(3) If possible, low noise + long reliability

I have no experience in water cooling and wonder the reliability (pipe, pump)...

Do hope the gurus here can share some lights. notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by chanhin: Apr 27 2016, 11:30 PM
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post Apr 27 2016, 11:31 PM

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Guys, any advise on cooler? whistling.gif
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post Apr 28 2016, 10:51 AM

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No budget issue? Noctua D15S
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post Apr 30 2016, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 28 2016, 10:51 AM)
No budget issue? Noctua D15S
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NH-C14 BURGER CPU COOLER RM365
NH-D14 SANDWICH CPU COOLER RM375
NH-D15 CPU COOLER RM415

I actually do not know which one is actually better as I did not see any web site with direct comparison with same processor for its temperature.

The D14 maybe easier to clean?
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post Apr 30 2016, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 23 2016, 11:00 PM)
Hi guys,

Can someone recommend a good cooler that is available in the market for my planned new system? My previous system (very old) was using oversized Zalman and it was really good. Even I pull out the power for the fan, the temperature can remain below 50 degree without air-con.

However, I noticed Zalman air cooling seems no longer popular...

Any suggestion? Budget is flexible...

Requirements;

(1) Lowest temperature
(2) Easy to clean the fins. Expecting to clean every 3 months.
(3) If possible, low noise + long reliability

I have no experience in water cooling and wonder the reliability (pipe, pump)...

Do hope the gurus here can share some lights.  notworthy.gif
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Grab a cheap AIO water cooling for your PC.
Easier to work inside the PC instead of having a giant block of metal obstructing your RAM and fan slots/etc.
On another note, you don't need to worry if the large heatsink cracks your motherboard when transporting it somewhere else.
ID Cooling 240L is around RM 240 ~ RM299.
For noise issue, just set the RPM to constant 50~60%

This post has been edited by asunakirito: Apr 30 2016, 12:11 PM
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post Apr 30 2016, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 30 2016, 01:28 AM)
NH-C14 BURGER CPU COOLER RM365
NH-D14 SANDWICH CPU COOLER RM375
NH-D15 CPU COOLER RM415

I actually do not know which one is actually better as I did not see any web site with direct comparison with same processor for its temperature.

The D14 maybe easier to clean?
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I owned both D14 and D15.
D14 has these sharp triangle fins which can easily scratch your skin especially when installing in a ATX case (not E-ATX case).
D15 on the other hand removes these sharp triangle fins, however, its width is slightly longer, making it not quite suitable use in motherboard such as X99 as its too close to the graphic card in the first slot.
For regular Z77/Z87/Z97/Z170 motherboard, it will also be quite close (1 finger width of space) to press the PCIE graphic card lock to remove the graphic card.

I would highly recommend you to go with Phanteks PH-TC14PЕ (if you are going with air cooling), it's overall much better than the Noctua D14 and D15 in terms of the fin design, color scheme, and accessories.
Plus, its much cheaper/affordable pricing around RM200-250. Save some cash. Difference between these 2 performance is 1~2 degree Celsius.

This post has been edited by asunakirito: Apr 30 2016, 12:17 PM
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post Apr 30 2016, 02:16 PM

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choose your mobo & cpu first before worrying about cpu cooler
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post Apr 30 2016, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(asunakirito @ Apr 30 2016, 12:11 PM)
Grab a cheap AIO water cooling for your PC.
Easier to work inside the PC instead of having a giant block of metal obstructing your RAM and fan slots/etc.
On another note, you don't need to worry if the large heatsink cracks your motherboard when transporting it somewhere else.
ID Cooling 240L is around RM 240 ~ RM299.
For noise issue, just set the RPM to constant 50~60%
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Yeah... I have the same concern. And also worry about the heavy weight of cooler. Okay cooler is usually around 1kg by itself. Top cooler even weight more (IMO crazy), which bring real concerns to me.

And you are right about large heatsink blocking internal components and create accessibility issue.

I like water cooling for its 'clean' look inside casing. However, I read many forums that water cooling suffer leaking and spoilted pump issue. Well, I guess it is just the same thing like car version.

QUOTE(asunakirito @ Apr 30 2016, 12:13 PM)
I owned both D14 and D15.
D14 has these sharp triangle fins which can easily scratch your skin especially when installing in a ATX case (not E-ATX case).
D15 on the other hand removes these sharp triangle fins, however, its width is slightly longer, making it not quite suitable use in motherboard such as X99 as its too close to the graphic card in the first slot.
For regular Z77/Z87/Z97/Z170 motherboard, it will also be quite close (1 finger width of space) to press the PCIE graphic card lock to remove the graphic card.

I would highly recommend you to go with Phanteks PH-TC14PЕ (if you are going with air cooling), it's overall much better than the Noctua D14 and D15 in terms of the fin design, color scheme, and accessories.
Plus, its much cheaper/affordable pricing around RM200-250. Save some cash. Difference between these 2 performance is 1~2 degree Celsius.
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Is lowyat really selling Phanteks PH-TC14PЕ ? Btw, the brand design looks like just copy D14 and other models... very similar.. Maybe no more room for creativity...

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 30 2016, 02:16 PM)
choose your mobo & cpu first before worrying about cpu cooler
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For motherboard, I am thinking of Z170X, which I like the Gigabyte Gaming 3 as it is very beautiful. I likes its use extra stronger material for the slots. And not to mention having 2x PCIe M.2 slot.

While for processor, I am looking at the plain i7 6700 with K since I never overclock my processor.

Guys, any suggestion on water cooler that is known to be realible and easy to clean? Or i7 6700 stock cooler actually sufficient? hmm.gif

This post has been edited by chanhin: Apr 30 2016, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 30 2016, 10:20 PM)
Yeah... I have the same concern. And also worry about the heavy weight of cooler. Okay cooler is usually around 1kg by itself. Top cooler even weight more (IMO crazy), which bring real concerns to me.

And you are right about large heatsink blocking internal components and create accessibility issue.

I like water cooling for its 'clean' look inside casing. However, I read many forums that water cooling suffer leaking and spoilted pump issue. Well, I guess it is just the same thing like car version.
Is lowyat really selling Phanteks PH-TC14PЕ ? Btw, the brand design looks like just copy D14 and other models... very similar.. Maybe no more room for creativity...
For motherboard, I am thinking of Z170X, which I like the Gigabyte Gaming 3 as it is very beautiful. I likes its use extra stronger material for the slots. And not to mention having 2x PCIe M.2 slot.

While for processor, I am looking at the plain i7 6700 with K since I never overclock my processor.

Guys, any suggestion on water cooler that is known to be realible and easy to clean? Or i7 6700 stock cooler actually sufficient?  hmm.gif
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It depends on your usage though, as for me, the stock cooler is doing fine biggrin.gif
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post Apr 30 2016, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Apr 30 2016, 10:26 PM)
It depends on your usage though, as for me, the stock cooler is doing fine  biggrin.gif
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Next questions, normal usage... stocket cooler how much higher temperature than aftermarket? 10 degree only? Not sure worth or not... hmm.gif

Or any other suggestion that is not over kill in term of weight? But still way better than intel stock? And also easy for cleaning biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 30 2016, 10:20 PM)
For motherboard, I am thinking of Z170X, which I like the Gigabyte Gaming 3 as it is very beautiful. I likes its use extra stronger material for the slots. And not to mention having 2x PCIe M.2 slot.
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I wouldn't dare to place an SSD at the m2 slot below the graphics card.

QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 30 2016, 10:20 PM)
Guys, any suggestion on water cooler that is known to be realible and easy to clean? Or i7 6700 stock cooler actually sufficient?  hmm.gif
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My i5 6500 (non-overclocked) is cooled by the stock cooler. It's quiet enough for me (my Corsair PSU is louder), even when gaming with the onboard graphics. Since you have no intention to oc your 6700, I suggest you stick with the stock cooler.


QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 30 2016, 10:28 PM)
Or any other suggestion that is not over kill in term of weight? But still way better than intel stock? And also easy for cleaning  biggrin.gif
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Cryorig M9i is the budget champ.
IMO, Intel stock cooler is the easiest to clean due to the least amount of fins.

This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Apr 30 2016, 11:19 PM
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post May 1 2016, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 30 2016, 10:28 PM)
Next questions, normal usage... stocket cooler how much higher temperature than aftermarket? 10 degree only? Not sure worth or not... hmm.gif

Or any other suggestion that is not over kill in term of weight? But still way better than intel stock? And also easy for cleaning  biggrin.gif
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lol, my normal temp is around 32-36 degree. So basically if you're going to use your rig normally, just go with the stock cooler especially if you're going with i7 6700 sweat.gif
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post May 1 2016, 03:39 AM

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QUOTE(MagnificM @ May 1 2016, 02:59 AM)
lol, my normal temp is around 32-36 degree. So basically if you're going to use your rig normally, just go with the stock cooler especially if you're going with i7 6700  sweat.gif
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Wait a minute... you mean you using i7 6700 stock cooler and normal temperature is only between 32-36 degree? In air-con room?

It sound like I should use stock cooler?
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QUOTE(chanhin @ May 1 2016, 03:39 AM)
Wait a minute... you mean you using i7 6700 stock cooler and normal temperature is only between 32-36 degree? In air-con room?

It sound like I should use stock cooler?
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yes bro, no need to get aftermarket cooler if you're a normal user. If you are not satisfied with the temp only you get an aftermarket cooler. Use the stock cooler 1st bro. Save money biggrin.gif
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If u run ur pc for normal, just use the stock cooler
It is good enough, unless u run on extreme speed biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post May 1 2016, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(MagnificM @ May 1 2016, 09:21 AM)
yes bro, no need to get aftermarket cooler if you're a normal user. If you are not satisfied with the temp only you get an aftermarket cooler. Use the stock cooler 1st bro. Save money  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ May 1 2016, 10:26 AM)
If u run ur pc for normal, just use the stock cooler
It is good enough, unless u run on extreme speed  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Ok.. Thanks guy. Looks like I can save abour RM400 then.... cool2.gif
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post May 2 2016, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 23 2016, 11:00 PM)
Hi guys,

Can someone recommend a good cooler that is available in the market for my planned new system? My previous system (very old) was using oversized Zalman and it was really good. Even I pull out the power for the fan, the temperature can remain below 50 degree without air-con.

However, I noticed Zalman air cooling seems no longer popular...

Any suggestion? Budget is flexible...

Requirements;

(1) Lowest temperature
(2) Easy to clean the fins. Expecting to clean every 3 months.
(3) If possible, low noise + long reliability

I have no experience in water cooling and wonder the reliability (pipe, pump)...

Do hope the gurus here can share some lights.  notworthy.gif
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I do not see any problem your system as it is not overheating for your previous system.

Your old system is using which socket? You have to be sure that your cooler still got the brackets ready if it is a socket 775 unit.

QUOTE(chanhin @ May 1 2016, 02:03 PM)
Ok.. Thanks guy. Looks like I can save abour RM400 then....  cool2.gif
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You should save that money as buying another new one does not give much of a difference.
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ May 2 2016, 12:52 PM)
I do not see any problem your system as it is not overheating for your previous system.

Your old system is using which socket? You have to be sure that your cooler still got the brackets ready if it is a socket 775 unit.
You should save that money as buying another new one does not give much of a difference.
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My old system is socket 775 with huge zalman copper cooler, which I love.. However, I doubt if it has the bracket for 1151.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(chanhin @ May 2 2016, 01:28 PM)
My old system is socket 775 with huge zalman copper cooler, which I love.. However, I doubt if it has the bracket for 1151.... sad.gif
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maybe you can ask some sifu here to see if any work around is possible or not. Otherwise, just have to retire together with the old system.
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post May 2 2016, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ May 2 2016, 04:02 PM)
maybe you can ask some sifu here to see if any work around is possible or not. Otherwise, just have to retire together with the old system.
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Well, I plan to retire with the old system. Its been many years already.


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