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post Apr 24 2016, 01:33 AM

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pcie ssd is speedier than sata ssd in many areas, except for common use, in which case you don't really notice the differences. yeah it depends on your usage.

imo it's better to spend on 4x of ssd capacity than 4x speed for most users. however, if you're an enthusiast, you know what you want smile.gif
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post Apr 24 2016, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 24 2016, 01:52 AM)
Well, the SSD will solely be used as boot drive + application loading.

What I wanted is... Impressive OS loading time that I can smile, as well as speedy launching application that make me proud.

Hope you know what I mean...  biggrin.gif

Just that I do not know what is the actual differences... Will be 4 sec vs 5 sec? 13 sec vs 14 sec?

If it is like 10 sec (PCIe SSD) vs 15 sec (SATA SSD) for loading windows + whatever stuff, then yes, it worth la...

So far I think if can more than 30% in actual performance then sure go for PCIe. If 20% only maybe can consider also... But if 10% only... Forget about it.
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er about boot time, i use samsung xp941 and i disable fastboot on w10. to me it's the same as sata ssd. sHawTY can give you better pictures because he has a sammy 950 pro.
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post Apr 24 2016, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Apr 24 2016, 11:56 AM)
I've used both SATA + NVME SSD
The difference between both is negligible as not a lot of apps / games can utilize NVME

Windows 10 Cold Boot Time (Fast Boot Enabled)
Single HyperX SAVAGE 240GB : 9 seconds
Dual HyperX SAVAGE 240GB RAID 0 : 15 seconds
Samsung 950 PRO 512GB : 3 seconds (I kid you not)

But it all comes down to your pocket
If you can afford NVME, go for it
If you think an NVME SSD is too expensive, then go for SATA SSD
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wo nice smile.gif guess that's the difference between ahci and nvme.

the raid is slow because it takes additional time to load driver and initialize raid.

is this a single ssd setup?

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post Apr 24 2016, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Apr 24 2016, 05:27 PM)
For 950 Pro, yes
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Got it. That's what i thought too. Everything must be blazingly fast smile.gif
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post Apr 29 2016, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Apr 29 2016, 12:36 AM)
Do you plan to overclock?  If no - then there's no point going with a K series chip.

Save yourself some money and get a 6700/Xeon E3 and put the money elsewhere, such as a SSD/CPU cooler.  icon_idea.gif

There's no such thing as futureproofing - the only thing you can futureproof is the PSU and the case, but that can be changing over time.  icon_idea.gif

I see you are running some form of simulation - mind telling which simulation?  hmm.gif

If you are talking about reliable CPU fans - your best choice is an industrial-grade fan:

http://noctua.at/en/nf-f12-industrialppc-3000-pwm
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that noctua 3krpm pwm fan is very loud at full speed. (1x is already loud enough; i have 2x; it's no joke) you need a fan controller to slow them down. imo 2krpm pwm ppc is better.
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post Apr 30 2016, 09:21 AM

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chanhin, you can check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMvBQoU82_8 (note that in the video it's only one fan; so to use 3krpm ppc fans you need a fan controller)

imo 2krpm ppc is better in terms of noise level, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZkW3tmuyWM (again, you use fan controller to adjust noise level accordingly)

as for your expectation to upgrade to a much faster mainstream cpu with the same mobo in 3 years, well, lie chocobo7779 pointed out, intel focus on power efficiency (cpu speed is kind of staying the same for several generations already) also, i think the cpu socket for future cpu will change most likely, hence incompatible to skylake cpu.

imo you should just go for whatever highest that you feel comfortable. if you go for xeon, check if the cpu has built-in igpu, if not you need a descrete gpu.

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post Apr 30 2016, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 30 2016, 10:07 PM)
THanks for sharing. When see the fans going high RPM make me unconfortable..

I always like processor like 6700T with low power.

Btw, can we buy 6700T in Malaysia?
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yeah that noise hehe noctua fans has 6-year warranty btw.

QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 30 2016, 10:25 PM)
THanks for the info.

Btw, it seems for PCIe SSD, the Samsung 950 Pro M.2 seems no competition in term of both performance and price. Looks like clear winner to me.  cool2.gif

Some PCIe SSD M.2 just half of the speed of what Samsung offer, but same price.. While some similar performance, but triple the price... Crazy...  sweat.gif
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for now yeah 950 pro is the best that we can get.

later this year we have another oem sku from samsung, sm961. that one has 3.2kMB/s seq. read and 1.8kMB/s seq. write (max capacity is 1tb) by 2017 i think we will have the retail equivalent.

 

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