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exkay
post Apr 14 2016, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(sonylsp @ Apr 14 2016, 04:14 PM)
Actually alucobond is just a shortform for " Aluminium Composite Panel" ,this is a new material for roofing to get protect by direct sunlight and also its a sound prove material .
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Alucobond is the brand for Aluminum Composite Panels, same goes to Seven, MBond, Alubond, Everise and more.

I'm using ACP panels for my porch. Quieter during rain, shady during Sun.

Previously using Polycarbonate Hollow panels and they start cracking and leaking after 8 years and of course, my contractor back then did a shitty job installing it in the wrong manner.

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post Apr 15 2016, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(henryj8 @ Apr 14 2016, 11:32 PM)
Aluminium composite panel is not structural sound design roof, not like the normal metal roofing sheet. Aluminium composite roof can only act like the seaming roof you can see at the LRT extension station, underneath the arming roof still have a layer of metal roofing.
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well, for porch or sunlight roof i think it's fine to use it as a replacement for polycarbonate
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post Apr 15 2016, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(sonylsp @ Apr 14 2016, 05:29 PM)
actually we always recommend to our customer use the 3mm solid polycarbonate instead of 6mm hollow polycarbonate , the hollow one dint provided warranty for cracking but the solid one provided 10 years warranty .
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are you using Marklon Poly carbonate sheets ? and Mbond ACP?
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post Apr 28 2017, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(alamdamai1 @ Mar 17 2017, 08:36 AM)
Has anyone installed any polycarbonate canopy product called polyroofx25 supplied by mydelux? if so, what is your findings compared to 'normal' type poly awanings? many thanks for your reply...
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From my read up, keyword, Virgin material

Most polycarbonate sheet in the market ie, SunLite (as mentioned a lot in this thread) ,Sukaiyo and more are not 100% virgin material ie, mix with some percentage of recycle material.

So what does virgin material gives you?

1. Colour uniformity, no irregularities in colour or transparency
2. quality assurance, ie, more expensive but no filler /recycle materials.
3. longer lasting.

Some brands like Marklon's pc sheet does come with UV coating as well, which would extend the lifespan of the PC sheet under the sun.
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post Apr 28 2017, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Mrkiwi611 @ Apr 27 2017, 08:03 PM)
Is there a another pergola material called aluminium bond to polycarbonate ?
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I think that's just using both ACP and Polycarbonate sheets alternately so that you have some shade, and some sunlight


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post Apr 28 2017, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(fin3than @ Apr 18 2017, 10:14 AM)
thanks for ur reply bro. I agree that pc roof won't give u silent treatment when the rain water hits. I meant has anyone expereienced significant noise different between these 2 types of polycarbonate sheet.
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Used Hollow sheet for porch previously. now having backyard in Solid PC and porch is using ACP

I would agree the noise is less with Solid sheet. ACP is even better as the polyethylene core absorb significant amount of noise.


Can i ask why did you change to hollow sheet? it's actually changing to a not so good option.
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post May 5 2017, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ May 2 2017, 10:08 AM)
was quoted in homedec few days ago, rm25/sf for following info/spec:
-aluminium material (4mm thickness) with steel frame 2"x4"
-if too add pillar ontop of beam, add RM250

not sure about the technical spec above, and not sure if that is a good price..
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QUOTE(imoogi99 @ May 4 2017, 11:08 AM)
I was at homedec and one of them quote similar at RM32 psf.
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Both price are possible, which the price difference determine the brand and quality of Aluminum Composite Panels (ACP) used.

remember that while the Thickness remains the same at 4mm ( some might go at 3.9 or 3.8mm and claim it 4mm)
However, the thickness of the aluminum might differ at 0.5mm or 0.3mm
Quality of the polyethylene core is in question as well as they are options on virgin material, or recycle material

so a 4mm sheet, can have several options or variances.

Imagine a sandwich

Bread = Aluminum sheet
Ham/Eggs/lettuce = Polyethylene core
Bread = Aluminum sheet

So a 4mm sheet can be as follows


Brand A__________________________Brand B__________________________Brand C
1mm = Aluminum sheet__________0.5mm = Aluminum sheet__________0.3mm = Aluminum sheet
2mm = Polyethylene core_________3.0mm = Polyethylene core_________3.4mm = Polyethylene core
1mm= Aluminum sheet___________0.5mm= Aluminum sheet __________0.3mm= Aluminum sheet

Mix in the quality of aluminum and also the polyethylene material, you can get an extreme cheap quote or an expensive quote, but that depends on what you want or need. in the end, you get what you pay for.

note: some ACP are fire retardant too, but usually for commercial use as wall cladding only.

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post May 5 2017, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ May 5 2017, 11:28 AM)
thanks.. didn't aware about it.. clear comparison though..

are they solid ACP, i.e. 4mm aluminium? biggrin.gif

else, based on the comparison, which brand is better?
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then it's not ACP anymore, it's Solid sheet Aluminum. which gonna burn hole in pocket for use as roof. LOL

Depending on your budget and your need really, go for reliable brand with warranty lo.

local manufacturer such as everise, mbond is not bad.
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post May 5 2017, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ May 5 2017, 11:45 AM)
so, in short, can say the more aluminium material, the better it is..

25/sf could be the BrandC, 32/sf could be BrandA/B
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thicker aluminum, stronger structural strength, less waving, don't forget metal expand when hot.

Brand A might get up to 45psf
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post May 5 2017, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ May 5 2017, 02:50 PM)
what spec would u recommend then for reliability and yet affordable?
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erm... not a saleman here. but i guess it depends on how much you're willing to spend VS product quality + warranty + workmanship quality.
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post May 11 2017, 10:42 AM

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Oh by the way.

Just recalled that installation for Polycarbonate roof panels are very specific do make sure your installers use the proper manner.

Allowing expansion gaps
avoid drilling the panels if possible. if drilling is required, make sure drill holes are given excess space for heat expansion.
silicon to be neutral or at least acid free.
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post Jul 14 2017, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Pucca&Garu @ Jun 17 2017, 08:24 AM)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3800401/grenf...orld-high-rise/

ACP consist of flammable polyurethane caused the fire spread fast in greenfell tower..
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really depends on the manufacturer. the one I'm using is Mbond class o fire rated by Bomba which passed British Standard 476: part 6 and part 7
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post Jul 15 2017, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(jerryng75 @ Jul 14 2017, 06:58 PM)
exkay,

First of All, I am not challenging you. I am not a Contractor. We comment here for the Sake of Safety.
I will not stayed in Condominium made with ACP . If I do, I will challenge the management to a test ACP

Have you tested it Vertical Burning?

The news say its Vertical Dripping and cause the First to spread Left Right Up & Down.

Manufactured Must make sure the formulation of each production remain the same.
You cannot cost down and change the material unless you submit for test again.

BS 476 from the internet mean Surface Flame. I agree that Aluminum don't Burn. They don't care about Dripping.

Maybe I should to get a piece of the ACP and Test Vertical Burning

Cherioo
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no offence taken, but I'm just sharing as well. icon_rolleyes.gif

As far as I understand the BS 476 part 7 is tested while on a vertical plane (BST476 part7)

Yes, Class O is not fire proof, but rather a fire rating that measures the minimum requirement for building materials that could endure some form of fire propagation, being fire resistant to a certain extend. ACP is not polyurethane core either, it's polyethylene.

ACP that is Fire retardant on the other hand is available as well, but of course will have to pay for the price as well.

a lil reading into the grenfell tower, chances are the chimney effect caused by the space inbetween the wall and the cladding is more of a blame to the fire. A class O rated fire propagation should be within 75mm while exposed for 10 minutes. but I read the news right, it raced up 6 storeys in 11 minutes.

but hey, I'm just using it as an awning, and if it was me, I would be more worried of my Ikea sofa + cabinet + Bed + kitchen cabinets not being fire rated.

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post Jul 15 2017, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(asiahost @ Jun 27 2017, 10:56 PM)
My condo balcony about 300 sq ft. Using polycarbonate.. i am in ground floor so upstairs the residents alwaya throw ciggrates butt down and my roof always leak. Can pls suggest some solutions? Maintenance been patching everytime there is a leak and the sound during rain is killing me... cant even hear the tv sometimes. Thx.
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can show a pic of the balcony roof ?

 

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