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zenquix
post Jan 23 2020, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 23 2020, 11:54 AM)
I have just closed 2 regular SA n open this OCBC360, will I enjoy the benefits from today or only starts in Feb?
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QUOTE(shuin1986 @ Jan 23 2020, 12:28 PM)
Ur interest will count from today until 31 january. Still have 8 days left for u to deposits rm500, send rm1 to 3 diff bank acc or pay 3 bills, then spend rm500 or topup ewallet
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make sure your debit card has set this account as Fast Cash.

i was in the same boat last month, opened account on 30 Dec... but still got all 3 bonus interest (deposit, bills, spend) for that month (all done on the same 30 Dec) ~even though my debit card transaction only posted on Jan 1.

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post Jan 28 2020, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(David_Yang @ Jan 28 2020, 10:50 AM)
The person who wrote this probably misinterpretated the OCBC 360 Account Interest Calculator at their webpage. Certainly 100k average is enough to catch the full bonus reward, 200k just brings you more of the shitty 0.2% base interest.
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ProxMatoR is basically saying dumped 400k for the shortened period (7-8 days) to earn the equivalent interest of 100k placed for the full month.

300k can be withdrawn on the first of the next month.

This however has not considered the opportunity cost of the 300k k

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post Feb 4 2020, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Feb 4 2020, 09:29 AM)
Dear BNM,

I would like to lodge an official complain. OCBC 360 Account's interest rate of 3.6% was announced on 29 January 2020. According to the Terms & Condition, point 6.2, it states The Bank may, at its sole and absolute discretion, after giving 21 calendar days’ notice, modify or vary these terms and conditions by. However, I have been receiving interest rate of 3.6% effective 2 January 2020 when it is suppose to be 4.1%
Anything to amend? Please feel free
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To OCBC Complaints Unit

I would like to lodge an official complaint. OCBC 360 Account's interest rate of 3.6% was announced on 29 January 2020. According to the Terms & Condition, point 6.2, it states The Bank may, at its sole and absolute discretion, after giving 21 calendar days’ notice, modify or vary these terms and conditions by. However, based on the interest credited on 02 February 2020, the interest rate of 3.6% was effective 1 January 2020, when it is suppose to be 4.1%. Based on the announcement date, OCBC  has the right to make the new interest rate effective only on 18 Feb 2020 onwards.

Appreciate your immediate attention to rectify this, and I am prepare to escalate to BNM Telelink.

Regards
Send to CustomerAssuranceSTMalaysia@ocbc.com

Based on other posts, BNM prefers proof you have at least contacted the bank first. If someone can provide a table of the "expected interest" vs. "given interest" even better.

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post Feb 4 2020, 12:07 PM

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Updated the email sample based on dates i see in my online statement.

For those who want to calculate their expected vs given interest.. use excel like below



Jan 1<daily balance>=1.3 / (100*365) * daily balance =1.15 / (100 * 365) * daily balance
Jan 2
Jan 3
Jan .
Jan .
Jan 31

sum up columns 3 for "expected" and 4 for "given" - make sure match statement..

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post Feb 5 2020, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Feb 4 2020, 07:48 PM)
Daily balance is the ending balance for the day right?
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yup

QUOTE(ProxMatoR @ Feb 4 2020, 10:54 PM)
update from my friend:
her RM told her that the 21 days notification is not including interest rate change, therefore they made it "w.e.f."

since those bonus interest rate are calculated on last day of the month, so they will use the latest rate. base rate will be pro-rated according to the latest "w.e.f" rate given.
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QUOTE(mamamia @ Feb 4 2020, 11:00 PM)
In this case, we need someone who is specialise in legal document to understand the clause 6.2..

But, I rmb some sifu mentioned last round when OCBC revised interest rate also give 21 days notice
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i call BS as the clause specifically state

adding or supplementing, removing or withdrawing, suspending or otherwise changing any of these terms and conditions and benefits, including, but not limited to, the Base Interest, Bonus Interest, Board Rate, Bonus Interest Rates, Maximum Average Balance, etc. Such modification or variation may be notified to you via announcements posted at branch, the Bank’s website or in the mass media and the notice will take effect from the date set out in the notice.

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post Feb 5 2020, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Sumofwhich @ Feb 5 2020, 06:16 AM)
I received a call from OCBC after emailing to the original email i mentioned, she told me that my interest is calculated based on 4.1% before 29th and 3.6% on 29th onwards. I hence told her that alot of ppl are getting way much lesser, and she has requested 2-3 business days to get the calculation from another team and will call me back.
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i got my exact bonus interest using the earlier table I shared and 1.15%. So the claim in the email is wrong.
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post Feb 5 2020, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Feb 5 2020, 11:50 AM)
Received call from OCBC on my case lodged.. she told me is based on revised rate 1.15% for bonus interest. I asked about 21 days notice as per tnc, she said she need to get the relevant team to reply.. said can only send me letter via post, cannot reply via email.. anyway, i shoot another feedback form to follow up just in case they didn’t send me any letter..  at least I’ve written formal complaint.
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no responses from ocbc on my email (and web form).

Look like can escalate to BNM already based on laishunchiat calculation and their responses to you
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post Feb 5 2020, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(David_Yang @ Feb 5 2020, 03:33 PM)
How you can write something is the field "Details"? If one chooses "Deposit Promotion" it disappears  biggrin.gif
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i choose "others account XXX"
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post Feb 5 2020, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(cucikaki @ Feb 5 2020, 07:32 PM)
Receive call from OCBC this morning. Lodge complaint on 3/2 about the interest rate. They say they are aware of the issue. They waiting for reply from the ‘Product Team’ on their decision on this. They will come out with a decision LATEST by end of this week. Customer do not need to calculate the interest themselves as our system has come out with the amount of how much additional interest should be credited in customer’s account once we have the decision from the ‘Product Team’.

Bonus of 1.30% each category and 0.20% base interest shall be calculated 1 Jan - 28 Jan and 1.15% each category and 0.15% base interest between 29 Jan till 31 Jan.

‘Please be reminded that 2020 has 366 days instead of 365 days so please factor that in the calculation’ - LoL someone must have complaint to them maybe based on 365 days calculation instead of 366 days. My complaint did not address this issue. They might remind everyone about 366 days so people dont complaint why receive less.
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but to be fair the current number debited aligns only at 365 days. so their own system is at fault.

as per my email template - i would still dispute their approach given the required 21 day notice.
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post Feb 6 2020, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Feb 6 2020, 08:54 AM)
The officer that call me teach me to count based on 365 days
My email complaint is about 21 days notice too.. even they credited for 1-28 jan interest based on old rate, still won’t solve my complaint as tnc shown 21 days notice, mean effective 18 Feb from 29 Jan, date they announce the revision.
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got a call - basically they are insisting

1) interest rates change due to BNM OPR rate change is not subjected to 21 days notice

2) bonus interest is not daily rest, but is average monthly balance applied to interest rate at end of the month. so they dont have to give 1.3% before announcement, and only the rate of the last day of the month matters.
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post Feb 8 2020, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Feb 7 2020, 05:33 PM)
How shall we bring this to BNM? What shall we write? What email address do we send to?

Thank you for your reply.

It does not state in your terms and condition that OCBC does not need to follow your own TNC clause 6.2 in a case of OPR Rate Change. In your TNC, it did not mention Bank Negara or OPR Rate.

In this case, I will be bringing this case forward to BNM.

Any changes anyone?
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i only found a webform for BNM now

https://telelink.bnm.gov.my/

looks like they dont accept emails anymore

https://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?lang=en&ch..._charter&ac=525

I don't think there is a point sending a reply to OCBC at all. Just go to BNM directly, but have details.

Now - some facts. In May 2019 we actually had an OPR cut, but OCBC cut the base rate and increase the bonus - backdated 5 days. Now because it still summed to 4.1% i am guessing it flew under the radar.

https://www.ocbc.com.my/personal-banking/notices.html

I cannot comment as I was not a customer then. But overnight we lost 0.5% over a 0.25% OPR cut so it may be arguable that the recent reduction is entirely OPR related but more to align back to the actual market interest after not cutting in May 2019.

My expectation is OCBC will fall back to clause 5.2
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5.2. The Board Rate and Bonus Interest Rates fluctuate from time to time and you may find the latest rates at the Bank’s website at www.ocbc.com.my.
we can complain but as one post previously say we likely can't win. just vote with our business, since as Cookie101 mentioned they are willing to lose some business as they are of the opinion 3.6% still very high in the market - CS in fact mentioned this twice.

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post Feb 8 2020, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Nom-el @ Feb 8 2020, 11:06 AM)
For those who are not satisfied with OCBC's response regarding the reduction in interest rate without 21 days notice, besides complaining to BNM, one can also consider lodging a complaint with Ombudsman for Financial
Services (OFS). Check out their website for more information.

https://www.ofs.org.my/en/
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QUOTE(taiping... @ Feb 8 2020, 11:12 AM)
Found their email address

enquiry@ofs.org.my
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Do note

BNM will not handle:
Complaint that has not been referred to FSPs;
Complaint involving insurance/takaful claim exceeding RM500,000 except if it is related to quality of service and unfair claim handling.
Complaint under the purview of Ombudsman of Financial Services (OFS);
Complaint/ dispute that is time barred under the Limitation Act 1953 or Limitation Ordinance (Sabah) (Cap.72), or Limitation Ordinance (Sarawak) (Cap.49);
Complaint that has been referred to the Court/Consumer Tribunal , and referred by legal firms or under their conduct;
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QUOTE(mamamia @ Feb 8 2020, 02:33 PM)
With ur sharing on May 2019 changes during the OPR cut, I’ve an idea to counter them.. they said their rate reduce due to OPR cut, 21 days notice is given if it is product feature change.. but, only base rate is suppose to follow OPR, Bonus interest is product feature which is offered by OCBC which I need to fulfilled the 3 conditions only can get, so, they can don’t give 21 days for base rate is acceptable, but, they MUST give 21 days for bonus interest changes (product feature)
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you have a point
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post Feb 8 2020, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Cookie101 @ Feb 8 2020, 12:17 PM)

Also based on my calculations the interest is incorrect for jan.

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They insist their formula is add all your daily balance together / 31 * 1.15%/365*31 (note that regardless of what they say - they still count the interest like it was daily instead of monthly /12 ))
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post Feb 9 2020, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Feb 9 2020, 03:37 AM)
That's what 'average monthly balance means' after all?
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no i mean if you are applying only the interest rate at the end of the month, why not do a /12 instead of /365
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post Feb 10 2020, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(ProxMatoR @ Feb 9 2020, 11:13 PM)
because interest rate calculation is by daily basis. if by month, later people complain those with extra 1 day month... then keep quiet with february... lol
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but if it is daily then the rate should follow the daily not end of the month.
this is basically inconsistent application for their own benefit
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post Feb 13 2020, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Sumofwhich @ Feb 11 2020, 04:40 PM)
Bnm called my dad (i dunno why they linked my email address to my dad's name. I checked my gmail sent email, it's my name and email).

Anyway, bnm emailed me a reply and ocbc will have an official reply in 14 days. Bnm will check and reply accordingly if necessary.
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QUOTE(Cookie101 @ Feb 11 2020, 05:43 PM)
Lol... can one la. How old unker? Still got chansi. Huat ah!
Great!

I received a message from my RM about a good news and need to call me about it. But I was busy so gonna speak about it Tmr.

Hope it’s an approval 😂

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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any news? I've reached out to OCBC for a written feedback so that I may forward it to Bank Negara.
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post Feb 14 2020, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(David_Yang @ Feb 14 2020, 11:44 AM)
No, this would not be according to TnC at all. Would be another break of their TnC. You cannot ask for a solution that is technically impossible. Please only apply for the full bonus interest for January 2020 according to the clause 6.2

All other claims are wasted time.
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i did not check but base interest is 0.2% before Jan 28 and 0.15% after. I feel this is valid given the OPR change.

My belief the only contention point is the Bonus Interest treatment
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post Mar 2 2020, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Mar 2 2020, 01:46 PM)
can someone update the subject/title of this thread so it reflects the correct interest rate?
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ronnie although he has been MIA in the thread.
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post Mar 18 2020, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(a.lifehacks @ Mar 18 2020, 06:21 PM)
Revision of OCBC 360 Account/-i Terms and Conditions and Product Information Sheet.

This revised Terms and Conditions and Product Information Sheet will take effect on 6 April 2020.

Previously on Clause 6.3 - NONE

W.E.F 6 April 2020: Clause 6.3 -

" In the event of regulatory requirement and/or monetary policy changes by Bank Negara,
Association of Banks in Malaysia, and any other relevant governing bodies, interest rates shall be
revised accordingly and the revised rates will take effect on the date stipulated in the
notice/announcement. Notification of such change shall be made via announcements posted at
branch or the Bank’s website or any other manner deemed suitable by the Bank. "

Refer https://www.ocbc.com.my/assets/pdf/Accounts...nC_16032020.pdf  for more details

https://www.ocbc.com.my/assets/pdf/Accounts...unt_TnC_ENG.pdf (extracted from 360 Account OCBC website)
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does this mean they given us the interest they owe us?

No.

This is basically covering backside for future, since they realise we have a point.

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