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post May 7 2017, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(PJusa @ May 7 2017, 03:03 PM)
which is why dry mode @ 28/27 is working. its dry and you wont feel stuffy. no harm done - try for yourself.
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Done before, not working for me, and my wife also complain stuffy.
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post May 8 2017, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 7 2017, 07:01 PM)
Done before, not working for me, and my wife also complain stuffy.
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maybe your room has too much airflow? or the aircon didnt suck enough moisture. did you check the humidity level? if you can get the moisture down to between 50-65% you should be comfy though 65% is bordering it. of course you need a rather sealed room as outside has high humidity levels when its not super hot. best controlled with a ventilation system. our house is completely A/Ced this way, fresh air coming only from aireguard fresh air system & bathroom and kitchen suction and the occasional door opening. proper door and window seals prevent humidity creeping inside. if like that you can effectively chill the house to 28° and hover between 45%-65% humidity at all times. That feels pretty comfy and as added bonus you dont have any issues with fungus or mold (too dry). but then mileage might vary. i think you might also need to control airflow to make this really work.
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post May 8 2017, 09:17 AM

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post May 8 2017, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(PJusa @ May 8 2017, 09:12 AM)
maybe your room has too much airflow? or the aircon didnt suck enough moisture. did you check the humidity level? if you can get the moisture down to between 50-65% you should be comfy though 65% is bordering it. of course you need a rather sealed room as outside has high humidity levels when its not super hot. best controlled with a ventilation system. our house is completely A/Ced this way, fresh air coming only from aireguard fresh air system & bathroom and kitchen suction and the occasional door opening. proper door and window seals prevent humidity creeping inside. if like that you can effectively chill the house to 28° and hover between 45%-65% humidity at all times. That feels pretty comfy and as added bonus you dont have any issues with fungus or mold (too dry). but then mileage might vary. i think you might also need to control airflow to make this really work.
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My room moisture level always remain around 45-55%, usually 45% when i switch on AC at 23c. Very likely is the human factor not the environment. I am a person can handle hot and cold, but not stuffy (stuffy make me vomit) and my daughter will complain "cannot breath". During rainy day when humidity is +80%, room windows are open and switch on Ventilation, we don't feel stuffy and room temperate around 27+-.


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post May 8 2017, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 8 2017, 09:39 AM)
My room moisture level always remain around 45-55%, usually 45% when i switch on AC at 23c. Very likely is the human factor not the environment. I am a person can handle hot and cold, but not stuffy (stuffy make me vomit) and my daughter will complain "cannot breath". During rainy day when humidity is +80%, room windows are open and switch on Ventilation, we don't feel stuffy and room temperate around 27+-.
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interesting. i dont know your personal situation so i cant really comment. 45% is normal for regualr mode and 23° as you set rather low. Personally I cannto stand the rainy day moisture levels so I adjust accordingly. Too bad dry mode doesnt work well for you then - the energy savings would be substantial as every degree you lower your room will roughly increase power needed by 10%.
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post May 11 2017, 10:12 PM

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How to check for humidity?
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QUOTE(watabakiu @ May 11 2017, 10:12 PM)
How to check for humidity?
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Hygrometers

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post May 26 2017, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(PJusa @ May 7 2017, 03:07 PM)
i use a high-end hygrometer
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May I know where did you buy that hygrometer or where I can find a good one?
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post May 26 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Diiimn @ May 26 2017, 12:16 AM)
May I know where did you buy that hygrometer or where I can find a good one?
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http://my.rs-online.com/web/ sells a cheap one: http://my.rs-online.com/web/p/digital-thermometers/4086109/

more (and better) choices:

http://www.unidex.my/products/thermo-hygrometers.html
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post May 26 2017, 10:22 AM

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Or build your own smile.gif

https://www.lelong.com.my/arduino-dht11-tem...8-01-Sale-P.htm
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post May 26 2017, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 26 2017, 10:22 AM)
I wonder how accurate is the reading.
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post May 26 2017, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 26 2017, 10:25 AM)
I wonder how accurate is the reading.
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Actually not that bad for the price. I made a temperature reading (another shield, not this) pretty accurate, i was testing it using Raspberry i2s bus logging server room data and push the data into cloud. I would say tolerance of +-5%
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post May 26 2017, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 26 2017, 10:29 AM)
Actually not that bad for the price. I made a temperature reading (another shield, not this) pretty accurate, i was testing it using Raspberry i2s bus logging server room data and push the data into cloud. I would say tolerance of +-5%
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Cause this kits make it as hobby/DIY/project. Doesn't require accuracy as long as it cheap for hobby.

So I have this impression that this kits are not accurate.
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post May 26 2017, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 26 2017, 10:33 AM)
Cause this kits make it as hobby/DIY/project. Doesn't require accuracy as long as it cheap for hobby.

So I have this impression that this kits are not accurate.
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There are cheap build sensor and also expensive sensor. Nevertheless is very often use for prototyping, once have a proper design and spec out, will have to properly build and test on different environment.
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post May 26 2017, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(PJusa @ May 26 2017, 09:57 AM)
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Do you've a dehumidifier or dehumidifier + air purifier 2 in 1?
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QUOTE(Diiimn @ May 26 2017, 07:21 PM)
Do you've a dehumidifier or dehumidifier + air purifier 2 in 1?
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why? i have an aircon which is a dehumidifier already. and i dont have to empty a bucket with it either wink.gif

a dehumidifier is essentially a portable aircon. only difference is that the heat is not blown outside but "kept" in the room.
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post Jun 11 2017, 04:16 AM

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QUOTE(PJusa @ May 7 2017, 03:07 PM)
i can give you a precise humidity level for my place as i use a high-end hygrometer: A/C (invertrer) set to 28°C - humidity 50%. since the A/C maintains the temp and not the humidity level (would be even better) the humidity can go up to 65% at 28° when there is plenty of rain. however like this no fugus issues and air barely ever feels stuffy. if to cold outside i just lower by 1 °C and it will be around 50% again.
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May I know what brand and price is this Air Con?
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QUOTE(Diiimn @ Jun 11 2017, 04:16 AM)
May I know what brand and price is this Air Con?
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any inverter will do. i use pana
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post Jul 31 2017, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(PJusa @ May 26 2017, 09:57 AM)
i brought at daiso rm 5.90 only...
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Apr 11 2016, 04:47 PM)
dry mode makes the internal fan run slower to allow more moisture condensation. this means the blower uses a bit less power (maybe 2-5 Watt only).

BUT: dryer air feels colder (it allows for better body cooling). usually 65° humidity air feels 2-3° cooler to humans than "regular a/c air" when you set the AC to 28°. so in dry mode you only have to chill the room to 28° to feel like 25°. that is where the savings kick in.i would recommend to you to try it. for our house many rooms are in dry mode at 29 or even 30 degrees and they feel cool. my home office ist @ dry mode 30°, temp is 29.7° right now and it feels cold. actually a bit too cold. need long sleeves wink.gif
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may I ask how many airconds you have in house, and how many hours you normally use, and your electricity bill per month (average)?

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