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post Jul 14 2016, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 14 2016, 12:27 PM)
Two more weeks and not sure where to stay? Your company not arranging anything for you?
Last year when I hire someone over from Malaysia I arrange a trip for her to come to Tokyo for a week to familiarized and look for a house. Not as rush as yours though.
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Well considering you are an international company, I'm not surprised. No arranging no helping except for applying the CoE, hwa107 might have better luck in that helping department, but for a typical fully Japanese run company I think this is pretty much the norm. Heck I went for final interview with the 役員 is with my own dime. laugh.gif

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post Jul 14 2016, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 14 2016, 01:53 PM)
How did you managed to find this "So japanese" company? 10 years ago, I have worked in a traditional JP company and its really not for me, even though my boss at that time is quite "open minded" They must be paying you well, for you to go through all this!
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Like any other jobs laugh.gif Head hunter laugh.gif Paying me well? I can place a bet that I'm probably getting 1/2 of what your salary is, or maybe 1/3, I don't get bonus as well sad.gif Oh you been to Japan 10 years ago?? I've been to Japan 7 years ago working in the same "so japanese"-type company and it wasn't for me as well laugh.gif mega_shok.gif But this time I'm know what to expect.

It probably not gonna end well, but its my last hurrah/YOLO moment before I settle down. A redo I suppose. Honestly I didn't have any plans to go back at all laugh.gif I just got a comfy job at Mimos and supposed to report in Monday next week. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Now I'm having sleepless night on how to reject them at the last minute, and all that.

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post Jul 14 2016, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 14 2016, 02:45 PM)
I already have my last hurrah moment. smile.gif. Came back here its all because of the $$$. Frankly speaking I like working Msia much more than Japan. Malaysian are much more easier to work with compare with Japanese. If you plan to be a father, Japan would be a good place, simply because you are treated as a local as you pay taxes. This means, most of your hospital fees will be covered, including check up for your wife, child vaccination, etc. Your child will also be getting one year free for any visit to the doctor or pharmacy.
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Wow you must make a bomb there. Because personally I save more with Malaysian salary compared to Japan. If divided by cost of living, I'm making peanuts in Japan laugh.gif But totally agree, working in Malaysia is way better for your mental health compared then working in Japan, in a Japanese company. Its more relaxing, and honestly less taxing. Better and bigger house space as well not to mention cheaper. Having a car is relatively cheap.

Oh is that under the National health care or is it company specific? I never really think that far into the future. But I'm quite skeptical and very unsure about education in Japan. Its a culture of memorizing rather then a culture of thinker. And alot of weird social problems that I'm a bit scared of.

For me its more about the experience, and more currency stability to support my part time education. If Msia money keep dropping I'll be forking out more money to pay for tuition fees, I mean sure I can take local private Uni, but considering I have to spend 1 extra year to learn this stupid nonsensical subject. ughh. I'll take a 3 year online degree from RMIT any time of the day.

I've done quite alot today that I'm so beat, applied and got my International driving license, got CoE and then went to embassy and applied for visa, quite fast, they say tomorrow can come collect already. Book a hotel, and tonight need to start short listing temp accommodation and mailing them.
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post Jul 15 2016, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 15 2016, 09:52 AM)
Actually my salary is not a lot. smile.gif Its more of the add on I get like housing and travelling, etc. Company pay for my daily commute and that save alot as in Msia I have a car to maintain. I did some hard negotiation with them for my package. Basically I told them I want to maintain my lifestlye like I have in Msia and not an upgrade. So if roti canai cost RM2 I compare it to nan which is 500yen. smile.gif

Its actually part of the tax I pay for the municipal and also insurance. Its a combination of these. Also if your wife is working, she can take 1 year maternity leave and still get at about 67% of her salary! Of course I wont let my kid study in a Japanese school....now looking at some exit plan. smile.gif International school will be way too expensive. There are actually some really good international University in Japan if you really look into it. For economics or business try, Hitotsubashi. Lots of famous economist in this university.

You plan to drive in Japan? I am too lazy to take the exam as I heard you need to take at least 2-3 times before they pass you. For accomodation, where are you looking at? Kasai? or Roppongi? smile.gif
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But train.... so packed bangwall.gif God I hate the sardine pack train. Can really drain you after a long day at work. Good you have housing because rent is a bitch there.

I totally I agree with you there is alot of international university there. Waseda is pretty good as well. But the local school, is omg, not so good. Imagine they have the same amount of English learning classes in school which is the same as us, but their English ability is dismal. Passing test is about memorizing flash card, I didn't have to think when I did the entrance exam to my college years ago in Japan, all about spending time memorizing stuff. International school is expensive as hell, and most company don't really subsidize that so most are out of luck. University (Local) cost a bomb as well too.

Exit plan? You can probably go back to Malaysia and live quite comfortably considering the experience you have. laugh.gif

Yes planning after my international license expire, sucks to be us because we are not Thailand or Singapore, because they can just convert their license to Japanese one with just eye exam. Mainly I just going to drive motorcycle to work and back, and weekends, rent a car and drive to place with more greenery laugh.gif

Since Shibuya is a hub for quite alot of line there is plenty of place I can find actually, right now I'm considering somewhere in Saitama. Around 1 hr+ train ride. Roppongi? Kasai? Noooo~ laugh.gif Not looking forward to live inside Tokyo. Last time I lived in Tokorozawa in Saitama it was fun. Got park nearby, not many tall buildings can see the sky unlike when I was living in Nakano. That day was depressing (while its great I can just walk home from work and no need to care about train) But living inside the concrete jungle is not something I look forward too. Open window see white wall. @_@;;

Arakawa-ku was pretty good tho, with the tram line running on street, it was cool to see that, and Arakawa-river. Fireworks! omg it was pretty.

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post Jul 15 2016, 04:24 PM

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Got my visa for 5 years rclxm9.gif The consulate was so empty now that you don't need visa to enter Japan, so I got my visa printed in like less then 24 hours @_@ And I actually missed to fill in some section. They probably don't even read the forms.

Point of no return, starts here.
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post Jul 15 2016, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 15 2016, 04:27 PM)
Actually local university is not expensive especially if you are a foreigner compare to AU or UK. Most gives you some discount in tuition fees and some full scholarship as well. In fact they treat a foreigner better than their own people!

Not thinking of going back to Malaysia so soon....unless company send me back as an expat. smile.gif Talking to my boss to see if there is any opportunities in the States or Europe.

Saitama?? Thats far. Wont you get tired with all the commuting? There are some nice place with grenery like Kichijoji or Nerima or even daikanyama. smile.gif Since you are single, you have more choices then.
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Saitama is the home of crayon shin chan! laugh.gif *cough* I mean, reasons for getting a motorcycle laugh.gif But yes, can be very very tiring. 2 hours lost coming from and to. But it's just an idea, nothing concrete yet, gonna go and actually see anywhere 30mins out that is reasonable. I can go towards Chiba tho, using the sky tree train line, that is uncharted territory for me laugh.gif
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post Jul 15 2016, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(ahpooki @ Jul 15 2016, 04:34 PM)
any advice on healthcare industry ?
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Sure. Work smart and enjoy life. That advice works in all other industry too. yawn.gif
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post Jul 21 2016, 08:28 PM

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The feels when you transform a huge stack of RM 50 into a small stack of Yukichi. T_T
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post Jul 24 2016, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Badawang @ Jul 24 2016, 01:04 PM)
Can i apply work VISA from KL Japan Embassy? Besides Coe, what other documents i should bring for this applications and how long it takes the VISA to be approved?

TQ
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Yes, you can apply KL Japan Embassy, you just need your passport, below application form that I link and your CoE. And it usually takes a day or two.

http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/pd...pplication1.pdf

Welcome to Japan laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2016, 08:18 AM

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#YOLO because why not laugh.gif Would be great to see you back there.

Good luck and we should do a gathering of lowyat peeps in Tokyo laugh.gif
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post Jul 31 2016, 06:46 PM

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For those who is coming this August laugh.gif FIREWORKS!!!

http://hanabi.walkerplus.com/list/ar0313/

I'll probably be visiting every weekend till it all ends around Saitama area laugh.gif
The one by the place I'm living starts next week laugh.gif with the stall and all.
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post Aug 1 2016, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Aug 1 2016, 04:59 PM)
Last weekend fireworks was in Sumida-kawa, Asakusa......saw it on TV though....too hot to go and join the huge crowd!
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Yeah I prefer to go to the smaller fireworks events which is not as bad as sumida-kawa. At least you can see alot of hot girls on train wearing kimono. I can't imagine anyone wearing that in the heat tho, and rain and heat laugh.gif

I just learn I might has wasted all that time and money to make IDP, because IDP only for tourist, and if you have a resident visa, you can only drive with a Japanese driving license. So pretty much screwed until I can muster enough money to move into a house with a frigging parking spot, and then start taking lesson to do the conversion.

Some suggested those electric assisted bicycle. 10man, have anyone every tried those? I'm not willing to spend that much just to ride it and not help much.
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post Aug 2 2016, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Aug 2 2016, 08:59 AM)
I thought you know about the IDP? If not mistaken you still can drive for a year and after that you need to convert to a Japanese license. You still need the IDP to do the conversion. Theory should be easy but not practical. Know a few friends that have taken at least 3 times to pass.
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I asked in reddit, it seems that the law says if you have a resident visa >3 months, then you are required by law to have a japanese drivers license. Only tourist are able to use IDP.

I'll paste the link later.. so sleepy.
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post Aug 6 2016, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Aug 2 2016, 08:59 AM)
I thought you know about the IDP? If not mistaken you still can drive for a year and after that you need to convert to a Japanese license. You still need the IDP to do the conversion. Theory should be easy but not practical. Know a few friends that have taken at least 3 times to pass.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/comments...xsoz3?context=3
Here's the thread, all the vets says that the law is unclear and police might fuck you up for that. IDP seems only for people on tourist visa and not residents.


QUOTE(sonicstream @ Aug 6 2016, 12:13 AM)
Two questions:

1. Just how much prospect can I work with Japan with my current education?
    Current Institute: Muroran Institute of Technology, Hokkaido (National University)
    Years: 3 years
    Course: Architectural and Civil Engineering (Undergraduate)
   
2. Just how is the working environment in Japanese companies anyway? I kept hearing rumors about black company (ブラック企業) in Japanese corporate.
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1. Not sure why are you asking this? You will have a Japanese degree and I assume with business level command of Japanese. Just go to your 就職活動サーポートセンター in your University and ask for jobs lisitng you wanna do and apply. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2. Don't think there are much black company any more, but if you join a mainly Japanese company, there is an expectation for you to work extra 2-4 hours for free, working on Sat or Sun or whole night is possible if project demands it. They won't push you to do it, but you will be looked down upon if you leave early. Its how the culture work. But unlike a black company, you will be paid for that overtime or can exchange that time as a replacement holiday if the OT hours exceed 8 hours. Still they keep finding creative ways to not pay your OT laugh.gif fucking japs.


P.S. Fireworks~!!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Aug 11 2016, 06:45 AM

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Well fark. @_@

Its my 2nd week, and when I was on my way to work yesterday I saw a dead body of a girl in her 20s, got hit by those Sagawa truck and there is plenty of cops around trying to cover the scene with a tarp. But obviously still visible.

And she got hit on a traffic light zebra crossing infront of my office. Not sure who is at fault, the driver or the girl?, but either ways that now make me terrified to cross the road.

Japan have been eventful but this on my 2nd week is a bit crazy. Whats gonna happen on my 3rd week T_T After they clean it up, they pull out a banner that wrote 死亡事故発生現場

Damn so young and so pretty. RIP
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 08:06 PM)
hi, currently I’m in japan and finding job and got an invitation to attend the company 内定式懇親会. Since this is my first time attend this kind of event, any sifu that work in Japan can share what to prepare for it? I think probably MUST memorize all the 敬語?
I’m really worried on my Japanese speaking skills although I passed JLPT N2. I’m really worried on my Japanese speaking skills although the HR recruiter said my Japanese is good enough to survive because some of the gaijin in the company have weaker Japanese skill than me when they join the company.
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Naitei in essence is an offer letter, if you get that you already got the job. Considering you got are invited for the naitei shiki you are confirm for a job already, since its like orientation day, they invite you and they give speech and all that. You dont need to do all of that, you should be good already, its just like a formality. And yes you do need to practice your keigo, but its not a necessity, its all about welcoming you to the company rather then to test you. You already got the job yo, so congrats.

Did you get an offer letter? then that is the naitei thinggy.

N2 is fine yo. You will learn as you go.

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post Sep 20 2016, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:20 PM)
Ya, overtime seems to be normal in Japan, don't like but no choice want to get oversea work experience
Thanks, I just got a call from Japanese friend in Japan, seems naitei is confirmation to them, but really without black and white formal document i don't really trust, hopefully more info provided after attend the naitei

No offer letter that's why

Hopefully will improve after work, anyway I enjoy watch Japanese bangumi especially matsuko, 家ついてっていいですか thumbup.gif
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How many interviews did you had? did you already had the interview with the director class?
No salary offer yet?

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post Sep 20 2016, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:35 PM)
I go to a job fair in Japan, interview by hr recruiter, and on second meet up she offer the naiteisiki, that's why I think not confirm yet since no test no interview with technical people and director, maybe because I have 8 years working experience in Malaysia that's why can skip?

Probably naitei only

No offer letter

But I heard from Japanese they say unlike Malaysia Japan company don't directly offer the position, need to go through OJT and then only assign position
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Are you a fresh grad recruit? how big is the company?
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post Sep 20 2016, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:35 PM)
I go to a job fair in Japan, interview by hr recruiter, and on second meet up she offer the naiteisiki, that's why I think not confirm yet since no test no interview with technical people and director, maybe because I have 8 years working experience in Malaysia that's why can skip?

Probably naitei only

No offer letter

But I heard from Japanese they say unlike Malaysia Japan company don't directly offer the position, need to go through OJT and then only assign position
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Oh there is no skipping, I have 10 years exp I still have to go thru the interview. Maybe its because of the job fair thinggy, I'm not really sure, I dont have much experience in this kind of recruitment. I went for the normal interview -> job offer
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post Oct 18 2016, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:35 PM)
I go to a job fair in Japan, interview by hr recruiter, and on second meet up she offer the naiteisiki, that's why I think not confirm yet since no test no interview with technical people and director, maybe because I have 8 years working experience in Malaysia that's why can skip?

Probably naitei only

No offer letter

But I heard from Japanese they say unlike Malaysia Japan company don't directly offer the position, need to go through OJT and then only assign position
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So what happened? are you in Japan now?

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