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Riolis
post Aug 1 2016, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Aug 1 2016, 04:59 PM)
Last weekend fireworks was in Sumida-kawa, Asakusa......saw it on TV though....too hot to go and join the huge crowd!
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Yeah I prefer to go to the smaller fireworks events which is not as bad as sumida-kawa. At least you can see alot of hot girls on train wearing kimono. I can't imagine anyone wearing that in the heat tho, and rain and heat laugh.gif

I just learn I might has wasted all that time and money to make IDP, because IDP only for tourist, and if you have a resident visa, you can only drive with a Japanese driving license. So pretty much screwed until I can muster enough money to move into a house with a frigging parking spot, and then start taking lesson to do the conversion.

Some suggested those electric assisted bicycle. 10man, have anyone every tried those? I'm not willing to spend that much just to ride it and not help much.
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post Aug 2 2016, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(Riolis @ Aug 1 2016, 10:59 PM)
Yeah I prefer to go to the smaller fireworks events which is not as bad as sumida-kawa. At least you can see alot of hot girls on train wearing kimono. I can't imagine anyone wearing that in the heat tho, and rain and heat laugh.gif

I just learn I might has wasted all that time and money to make IDP, because IDP only for tourist, and if you have a resident visa, you can only drive with a Japanese driving license. So pretty much screwed until I can muster enough money to move into a house with a frigging parking spot, and then start taking lesson to do the conversion.

Some suggested those electric assisted bicycle. 10man, have anyone every tried those? I'm not willing to spend that much just to ride it and not help much.
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I thought you know about the IDP? If not mistaken you still can drive for a year and after that you need to convert to a Japanese license. You still need the IDP to do the conversion. Theory should be easy but not practical. Know a few friends that have taken at least 3 times to pass.
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post Aug 2 2016, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Aug 2 2016, 08:59 AM)
I thought you know about the IDP? If not mistaken you still can drive for a year and after that you need to convert to a Japanese license. You still need the IDP to do the conversion. Theory should be easy but not practical. Know a few friends that have taken at least 3 times to pass.
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I asked in reddit, it seems that the law says if you have a resident visa >3 months, then you are required by law to have a japanese drivers license. Only tourist are able to use IDP.

I'll paste the link later.. so sleepy.
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post Aug 6 2016, 12:13 AM

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Two questions:

1. Just how much prospect can I work with Japan with my current education?
Current Institute: Muroran Institute of Technology, Hokkaido (National University)
Years: 3 years
Course: Architectural and Civil Engineering (Undergraduate)

2. Just how is the working environment in Japanese companies anyway? I kept hearing rumors about black company (ブラック企業) in Japanese corporate.

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post Aug 6 2016, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Aug 2 2016, 08:59 AM)
I thought you know about the IDP? If not mistaken you still can drive for a year and after that you need to convert to a Japanese license. You still need the IDP to do the conversion. Theory should be easy but not practical. Know a few friends that have taken at least 3 times to pass.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/comments...xsoz3?context=3
Here's the thread, all the vets says that the law is unclear and police might fuck you up for that. IDP seems only for people on tourist visa and not residents.


QUOTE(sonicstream @ Aug 6 2016, 12:13 AM)
Two questions:

1. Just how much prospect can I work with Japan with my current education?
    Current Institute: Muroran Institute of Technology, Hokkaido (National University)
    Years: 3 years
    Course: Architectural and Civil Engineering (Undergraduate)
   
2. Just how is the working environment in Japanese companies anyway? I kept hearing rumors about black company (ブラック企業) in Japanese corporate.
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1. Not sure why are you asking this? You will have a Japanese degree and I assume with business level command of Japanese. Just go to your 就職活動サーポートセンター in your University and ask for jobs lisitng you wanna do and apply. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2. Don't think there are much black company any more, but if you join a mainly Japanese company, there is an expectation for you to work extra 2-4 hours for free, working on Sat or Sun or whole night is possible if project demands it. They won't push you to do it, but you will be looked down upon if you leave early. Its how the culture work. But unlike a black company, you will be paid for that overtime or can exchange that time as a replacement holiday if the OT hours exceed 8 hours. Still they keep finding creative ways to not pay your OT laugh.gif fucking japs.


P.S. Fireworks~!!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Aug 6 2016, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Riolis @ Aug 6 2016, 08:41 AM)
https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/comments...xsoz3?context=3
Here's the thread, all the vets says that the law is unclear and police might fuck you up for that. IDP seems only for people on tourist visa and not residents.
1. Not sure why are you asking this? You will have a Japanese degree and I assume with business level command of Japanese. Just go to your 就職活動サーポートセンター in your University and ask for jobs lisitng you wanna do and apply. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2. Don't think there are much black company any more, but if you join a mainly Japanese company, there is an expectation for you to work extra 2-4 hours for free, working on Sat or Sun or whole night is possible if project demands it. They won't push you to do it, but you will be looked down upon if you leave early. Its how the culture work. But unlike a black company, you will be paid for that overtime or can exchange that time as a replacement holiday if the OT hours exceed 8 hours. Still they keep finding creative ways to not pay your OT laugh.gif fucking japs.
P.S. Fireworks~!!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Thanks for the answer.

Firework in my area is over because summer in Hokkaido is short. I wished winter come soon because I love skiing. rclxm9.gif
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post Aug 11 2016, 06:45 AM

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Well fark. @_@

Its my 2nd week, and when I was on my way to work yesterday I saw a dead body of a girl in her 20s, got hit by those Sagawa truck and there is plenty of cops around trying to cover the scene with a tarp. But obviously still visible.

And she got hit on a traffic light zebra crossing infront of my office. Not sure who is at fault, the driver or the girl?, but either ways that now make me terrified to cross the road.

Japan have been eventful but this on my 2nd week is a bit crazy. Whats gonna happen on my 3rd week T_T After they clean it up, they pull out a banner that wrote 死亡事故発生現場

Damn so young and so pretty. RIP
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:06 PM

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hi, currently I’m in japan and finding job and got an invitation to attend the company 内定式懇親会. Since this is my first time attend this kind of event, any sifu that work in Japan can share what to prepare for it? I think probably MUST memorize all the 敬語?
I’m really worried on my Japanese speaking skills although I passed JLPT N2. I’m really worried on my Japanese speaking skills although the HR recruiter said my Japanese is good enough to survive because some of the gaijin in the company have weaker Japanese skill than me when they join the company.

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post Sep 20 2016, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Riolis @ Jul 7 2016, 03:24 PM)
OMG, you will get nothing but jealousy from me. Where do I send in my resume sad.gif
If it were me, I'd say screw Japanese and take that family time.

Here's what in my 内定 offer.
"報酬には月45時間分の見込み残業手当を含む"

These people are very creative when they really want to, and what a magical way to not pay overtime work. laugh.gif
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内定 offer provided after attend 内定式?
after 内定 still need to go through a lot interview and test right?
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ Jul 5 2016, 10:48 AM)
Is it really that easy for a gaijin to secure a job there legally?

For the working visa, is it really that easy to obtain? Just need your hiring company to fill your application & your passport? That's all? Validity is one year?

It had been my dream working in Japan since I am young.

But from your reply the average salary is only 500k yen, that is not a lot for an expensive city like Tokyo.
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500k yen? i saw most offer for entry level only 180k-250k yen only
same here Its my dream to work in Tokyo, and hopefully can become volunteer for Olympic 2020

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post Sep 20 2016, 08:34 PM

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Does anyone know if it's easy for an iOS developer to get a job in Japan? £92 is the market there?
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:48 PM

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I work in Japan before and really didn't like the culture there. They work too hard and stressful. smile.gif Anyway, if you can take that, do go ahead... smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 08:06 PM)
hi, currently I’m in japan and finding job and got an invitation to attend the company 内定式懇親会. Since this is my first time attend this kind of event, any sifu that work in Japan can share what to prepare for it? I think probably MUST memorize all the 敬語?
I’m really worried on my Japanese speaking skills although I passed JLPT N2. I’m really worried on my Japanese speaking skills although the HR recruiter said my Japanese is good enough to survive because some of the gaijin in the company have weaker Japanese skill than me when they join the company.
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Naitei in essence is an offer letter, if you get that you already got the job. Considering you got are invited for the naitei shiki you are confirm for a job already, since its like orientation day, they invite you and they give speech and all that. You dont need to do all of that, you should be good already, its just like a formality. And yes you do need to practice your keigo, but its not a necessity, its all about welcoming you to the company rather then to test you. You already got the job yo, so congrats.

Did you get an offer letter? then that is the naitei thinggy.

N2 is fine yo. You will learn as you go.

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post Sep 20 2016, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Lavender_Blue @ Sep 20 2016, 08:48 PM)
I work in Japan before and really didn't like the culture there. They work too hard and stressful. smile.gif Anyway, if you can take that, do go ahead... smile.gif
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Ya, overtime seems to be normal in Japan, don't like but no choice want to get oversea work experience

QUOTE(Riolis @ Sep 20 2016, 08:53 PM)
Naitei in essence is an offer letter, if you get that you already got the job. Considering you got are invited for the naitei shiki you are confirm for a job already, since its like orientation day, they invite you and they give speech and all that. You dont need to do all of that, you should be good already, its just like a formality. And yes you do need to practice your keigo, but its not a necessity, its all about welcoming you to the company rather then to test you. You already got the job yo, so congrats.

Did you get an offer letter? then that is the naitei thinggy.

N2 is fine yo. You will learn as you go.
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Thanks, I just got a call from Japanese friend in Japan, seems naitei is confirmation to them, but really without black and white formal document i don't really trust, hopefully more info provided after attend the naitei

No offer letter that's why

Hopefully will improve after work, anyway I enjoy watch Japanese bangumi especially matsuko, 家ついてっていいですか thumbup.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:20 PM)
Ya, overtime seems to be normal in Japan, don't like but no choice want to get oversea work experience
Thanks, I just got a call from Japanese friend in Japan, seems naitei is confirmation to them, but really without black and white formal document i don't really trust, hopefully more info provided after attend the naitei

No offer letter that's why

Hopefully will improve after work, anyway I enjoy watch Japanese bangumi especially matsuko, 家ついてっていいですか thumbup.gif
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How many interviews did you had? did you already had the interview with the director class?
No salary offer yet?

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post Sep 20 2016, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(Riolis @ Sep 20 2016, 09:30 PM)
How many interviews did you had? did you already had the interview with the director class?
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I go to a job fair in Japan, interview by hr recruiter, and on second meet up she offer the naiteisiki, that's why I think not confirm yet since no test no interview with technical people and director, maybe because I have 8 years working experience in Malaysia that's why can skip?

Probably naitei only

No offer letter

But I heard from Japanese they say unlike Malaysia Japan company don't directly offer the position, need to go through OJT and then only assign position

This post has been edited by popcorn513: Sep 20 2016, 09:39 PM
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post Sep 20 2016, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:35 PM)
I go to a job fair in Japan, interview by hr recruiter, and on second meet up she offer the naiteisiki, that's why I think not confirm yet since no test no interview with technical people and director, maybe because I have 8 years working experience in Malaysia that's why can skip?

Probably naitei only

No offer letter

But I heard from Japanese they say unlike Malaysia Japan company don't directly offer the position, need to go through OJT and then only assign position
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Are you a fresh grad recruit? how big is the company?
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post Sep 20 2016, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:35 PM)
I go to a job fair in Japan, interview by hr recruiter, and on second meet up she offer the naiteisiki, that's why I think not confirm yet since no test no interview with technical people and director, maybe because I have 8 years working experience in Malaysia that's why can skip?

Probably naitei only

No offer letter

But I heard from Japanese they say unlike Malaysia Japan company don't directly offer the position, need to go through OJT and then only assign position
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Oh there is no skipping, I have 10 years exp I still have to go thru the interview. Maybe its because of the job fair thinggy, I'm not really sure, I dont have much experience in this kind of recruitment. I went for the normal interview -> job offer
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Sep 20 2016, 09:51 PM)
Are you a fresh grad recruit? how big is the company?
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8 years work experience, 0 in japan
1k employee, 10% is gaijin

QUOTE(Riolis @ Sep 20 2016, 09:59 PM)
Oh there is no skipping, I have 10 years exp I still have to go thru the interview. Maybe its because of the job fair thinggy, I'm not really sure, I dont have much experience in this kind of recruitment. I went for the normal interview -> job offer
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wow 10 years experience senpai
probably after the neiteisiki there will be more interview then
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post Sep 21 2016, 10:04 AM

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I think now Japanese companies are moving towards globalization. Met a Malaysian recently in Tokyo who knows no Japanese but working in a very Japanese company. He says that the company is expanding overseas and hence need some foreigners to work there. Now you can even work in convenience store like Lawson and Family Mart with N3.

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