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TIME [OFFICIAL] TIME Fibre Broadband™ v3.o, 500 Mbps of rocket science

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mambojambo
post Apr 7 2016, 10:10 AM

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I just installed 300Mbps Time in my house on 2nd Apr 2016.

I used direct cable connection and did speed test on Time's own speed test page.

The average I can get is around 260Mbps (down) / 280Mbps (up).

It's the Huawei modem with D-Link DIR-850L.

Is this normal?
mambojambo
post Apr 7 2016, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Apr 7 2016, 11:43 AM)
That's pretty good but DIR-850L should be able to handle full 300mbps. Someone on the Mikrotik thread managed 433mbps on TIME 500 with it.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=79327930
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I called Time and they told me it's supposed to get around 70-80% of the speed only. On Unifi, my 20Mbps package can get me full 20Mbps.

Then, they told me they only guarantee the speed up to the modem only (even though the router was provided by them) and asked me to speedtest using direct cable connection to the Huawei modem.

I just tried that and no difference. Beginning to wonder whether Time is over promising....
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post Apr 7 2016, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(tritonite @ Apr 7 2016, 12:05 PM)
For the same price you are paying to get your 'full' 20Mbps Unifi, you are getting 70-80% of a 300Mbps line, which simple maths well tell you is WAAAYY more than 20Mbps. Even if it was operating at 50% capacity, you're still ahead.

People need to put things into perspective and look at the overall, bigger value-for-money picture.

No, I'm not presently a TIME subscriber, but it is definitely leaning that way once I am convinced that when their subscriber numbers reaches saturation with their new packages, their performance level is still good enough for my home office requirements.
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I don't think you are wrong to think that way. Yes, value for money wise, it is way better than TM. But that is using TM to justify the means, which I don't agree.

The fact is, I paid for 300Mbps and I think I should be getting the full speed. Of course, there are stuff like degradation along the cables and etc. But then... if they can offer 500Mbps on the same cable, then I don't see why my speed cannot get full.

If that is the way fibre works where the actual speed is always 80% of the "port" speed, then they should make sure their port is set to 375Mbps. Customer got no control over the quality of fibre cables (which are owned by Time).

I'm not an expert in fibre, but i definitely know that I paid for 300Mbps but I'm only getting 260Mbps.
mambojambo
post Apr 7 2016, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(infin @ Apr 7 2016, 12:44 PM)
There is minimal signal drop on fiber. Where the signal drops and noise comes in is between the building switch and your phone line outlet, when this last link is not fiber and is just standard phone cable. You should take a look at your floor's telephony room - it has likely become a jungle of wires with loose connections here and there. Older condos can even have compromised wiring to each apartment and don't forget your own sockets and cables.

Also, no provider will be updating the default firmware on the equipment that they provide, which is something that a savvy user should be doing first thing.

These factors will definitely give you the 80% of bandwidth that is actually useable in any network environment. Do also bear in mind that providing 300mbps over long distance is a different prospect from providing 20mbps - there are different network hardware/hardware protocols and a much higher sensitivity to line noise, since the same pipe is being used to send much more data.

That said, I'd love to see you succeed in getting them to over provision for your case.
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My Unifi is like what you described. Fibre only to building switch, but re-use existing phone copper cable to provide the connection between modem and building switch.

But in my case of Time, it is fibre all the way to modem, which is why I couldn't accept cable degradation. Furthermore, these are brand new fibre cables recently installed (including the one they dug up the main road in front of the condo).

I will see what I can do about the firmware. Currently, it is the latest version from Dlink.

I have lodged a complaint with Time. Will see how they handle this.


mambojambo
post Apr 8 2016, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 8 2016, 03:23 PM)
Not too surprised for me, my 500 Mbps line always can get > 550 Mbps download speed, good guy TIME  notworthy.gif
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Damn nice leh... I'm still waiting for Time to revert back to me.
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post Apr 8 2016, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(kmrdeva @ Apr 8 2016, 06:30 AM)
I don't think it's so much about being thankful and accepting. More about setting my own expectation more realistically. Not even Google Fiber in the US gives users actual 1024 megabits per second as advertised, I believe.

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Agree, we have to be realistic. Afterall, we're not paying enterprise-price for some 99.99% uptime SLA/SLG.

My own expectation for Time's fibre is 90-95% of the advertised speed. And after seeing quite a few people in Lowyat forum claiming to reach speeds of 100+, 300+ and 500+, makes me even more convinced I should not settle down for 70% average.
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post Apr 8 2016, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(tritonite @ Apr 8 2016, 09:04 PM)
If you go to the management office, you will probably find some flyers and brochures with the name of the designated agent for your development. If you can't find any, there will probably be at least one stuck on your main noticeboard. If there still isn't, I would clarify with your condo management that your development does indeed have TIME Fibre Broadband service.

Since you mentioned Damansara Perdana, if you are living at Met Sq or Armanee Terrace, I am definitely sure you have coverage.

I would emphasise doing it through the designated agent on the brochure or flyer, rather than a reseller here, some of whom are terribly fond of telling you to read your PM, as though it's some sort of secret mission needing secret handshakes and codewords.
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...and the tendency to call everyone bro biggrin.gif
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post Apr 8 2016, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(ezinger @ Apr 7 2016, 12:26 PM)
Do you mind taking a screenshot of your speedtest from the time website?
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Just did the below test 1 min ago:

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mambojambo
post Apr 9 2016, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(Braxton @ Apr 9 2016, 12:14 AM)
Wireless or downloading file?
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Direct cable from laptop to router. I also disabled both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz SSID just to make sure no devices were connected through Wifi.

Above was more or less the kind of result the installer got when he was testing mine. Unfortunately, he gave up and told me to escalate to Time call centre.

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