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post Jun 23 2016, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(syahpian @ Jun 23 2016, 10:28 AM)
i try it with both LGDBHE21865 and awt 40a 3000 mah battery. both giving same volt rate. i already try to build it using alien clapton and getting 0.27 ohm, but the ramp time too slow. the taste is great through.
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Well, the AWT isn't a true 40A battery (check out Mooch's tests) and the HE2 does 20A max IINM. Technically, you can only really push about 80-90W out of a single 18650... and even then, not for very long before the voltage drops too low for it to be safe.

And yes, they are 4.2v batteries - all of them are. Of courseler they will give you the same volts (of course not counting internal resistance and all that other crap). But really, voltage doesn't matter (unless you wanna see the volt drop of the mod), how much amperage the battery can support *does*.

Claptons (and all the other exotic wires) need lotsa power unfortunately, and you need more/bigger batteries to push it that far... especially if you built it so low res.

Hence why 200w mods are in the vogue right now, and why they need more than one 18650 battery (or just one huge ass Li-Po) to run.

If you don't build it above 0.25-0.3 ohms, that "protection" chip might die on you sooner than you would think.

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QUOTE(syahpian @ Jun 23 2016, 10:49 AM)
i see, thanks for the advise  biggrin.gif
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Try twisted kantal, it doesn't ramp up as slowly as claptons but it still gives a decent boost of flavour over normal straight coils. Plus it's pretty easy to make yourself.

I run mine, a pair of dual twisted 26awg coils, at 0.4o (on a regulated mod), and while there is a slight ramp up, the flavour isn't all that bad at 30-35w (around 3.7v... yes I have tame vaping needs lol). It should hit even harder on the Dripbox, at least with a fully charged battery (it being unreg and stuff).

If you still wanna run Claps (or Tigers or Aliens or Staples) you're gonna have to learn to live with the ramp up of above 0.3o coils... or get a multi-battery mod - preferably a regulated one.

For example, the nice and relatively inexpensive Cuboid. Or you can go all the way and get an RX200. Or even the bigger brother Dripbox (which runs two batteries).

Though you need to remember that multi-batt mods come with their own bag of worms... like having to "marry" your mod batteries and spares.

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post Jun 23 2016, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Vryon @ Jun 23 2016, 11:29 AM)
Does anyone experience with muji cotton before? ohmy.gif
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Most of the folks here started out with Muji IINM. I actually started out with Guardian (non-organic) cotton lol (I still have a bag of those somewhere lol)... then Muji. Now running Kendo Gold.

So, what do you wanna know? As far as Organic Cotton pads are concerned, Muji cotton (bought *from* Muji... not from some overpriced vape place) is the cheapest, easiest "organic" cotton to get locally.

And it works quite well... as long as you don't try anything better lol.

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QUOTE(syahpian @ Jun 23 2016, 11:51 AM)
done. 0.31 ohm 24g wire
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Looks nice. Wick it and rock it lor. Hopefully it works better than the Clap.

Vyron Well, that depends on how sensitive your sense of taste/smell is really. Just pick up a bundle from Muji and do your own comparison... it's cheap anyway.

And BTW, Cotton Bacon is apparently just repackaged sterile dental cotton. TVL is the real deal though, even if I personally prefer Kendo Gold myself (it being in a parallel grain roll makes it so easy to work with).

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QUOTE(syahpian @ Jun 23 2016, 12:11 PM)
i also have cuboid actually, but i very rarely use it because have this dripbox, feel so good when squonking using it, hope there a seller bring Lost Vape Halcyon Squonker DNA200 to malaysia. want to buy that mod lol
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I've already had my fair share of squonking back in my Vmod days lol... but yeah it was fun times, I totally get why you would wanna do it.

Nowadays I just use my dripper for quick-switching between flavors though. The ADV stays in the 'Cado (which pretty much tastes like a dripper anyway) so I have a much lesser need for a squonker at the moment.

That said, my V2 does have BF pin... so if I ever feel nostalgic... I might just get one of those Dripboxes myself lol.

Mmm... squonking...

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QUOTE(gunners_my @ Jun 23 2016, 04:40 PM)
just wondering.. how to check on the safety of batteries? Is the problem related only on super low ohm? if I am vaping at o.45ohm and above, would it be safer? I bought a lot of yellow batteries from VE... can anybody enlighten me on how safe it can be?

sounds dangerous by watching this youtube.. thanks for sharing  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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It's a question of how much power load (in amps) are you running through the batts. Yellows (if LG) should be HE4s, which are good to about 20A. Assuming a nominal voltage of about 4v, the batteries should be good to a minimum of 0.30o (*with* ample headspace put into consideration of course).

Of course, on a regulated mod, the chip boosts and bucks the voltage based on your wattage settings, but the same general rule applies - at 4v, 20A batteries are good to about 0.3o.

You need to Google "ohms law" and understand the general idea behind it, but the takeaway here is that all batteries have a max amperage limit (which differs from battery to battery) and you do not want to breach that limit.

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QUOTE(6oLsh0i_6o0z3 @ Jun 23 2016, 07:46 PM)
On regulated mod, the resistance of the atomizer means nothing. The equation is I = P / V (Current = Power / Voltage).
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Hurmmm. I knew I should have read that Reddit PSA, but yeah it does confirm my suspicions that wattage is all that really matters on a reg box.

Thanks for the update though. It's a really good summary of the PSA.

That said, IMHO even "casual" vapers REALLY need to know their basic battery safety, and at least know that NO, those 35A E-fests and AMTs (and whatever rewraps) isn't really true 35A batteries to begin with.

And how 40A batteries are total BS... at least at this point in time.

Unfortunately the responsibility is shared with sellers (who need to at least inform their buyers of BASIC battery safety), but some of the less... scruplous shops really don't care about that as much as they care about their profits.

Which is sad, considering that these little sticks of power are about the only thing in Vaping that can go nuclear on us when abused beyond their limits.

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QUOTE(6oLsh0i_6o0z3 @ Jun 23 2016, 09:10 PM)
Totally agree with you. Some shop just wanna shove the latest device on the market to their customers face without telling them a little bit about safety issues, some of them (both seller and consumer) probably have no idea if you ask them about safety that I can guarantee you. We need to become a smart consumer and learn that ourselves. The last thing we would want is to give the ammunition to the G saying that vaping is dangerous.
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Like multi-battery mods and battery marriage. Though so far most of the sellers I've seen (so far) have been quite adamant about battery marriage - as it DOES allow them to to use it as an excuse to sell new batteries as a set with the mods themselves.

Which is... well... something good achieved with less then noble intents lol. Not that it matters.

At least now the majority of local vapers have switched to reg mods (again). It would be rather... iffy if the current minimal ohm Clapton crowd were to build on mechs with such blatant disregard for (or rather, ignorance of) battery safety.

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QUOTE(kuli2sahaja @ Jun 24 2016, 11:23 PM)
Nicotine overdose.
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Agreed. Malaysian 6 is normally never really 6 lol.

In other news, UK just voted to leave the EU... which probably means no TPD... hopefully. UK might just become the last bastion of sanity for us vapers lol.

Hopefully anyway.

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QUOTE(6oLsh0i_6o0z3 @ Jun 25 2016, 01:36 AM)
Yes 3mg would be fine. I personally vape 3mg on RDA.
You can vape higher if you're using the right tank so to speak unless you memang have tekak naga can vape higher nic while on dripper  brows.gif

high end local ejuice nic is fine I think. Like RM50 range their nic is fine. The RM40 range juice is all meh. (IMO)
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Personally I can generally gauge if a juice is BSing me as far as nicotine is concerned, at least after half a bottle or so. Back in the day 12 was 12 and 6 was 6 (even if it was Hangsen or Liqua) so my body grew around that benchmark.

*Concurrently, I never became a dual user maybe because I got enough Nic from my juices? Dual users please check if you're getting enough Nic!*

The only "around-50" local juice I know of with correctly labeled nic strength is ROC (the ex-CCC), my current to go juice. Everything cheaper is trash as far as nicotine strength goes (and in a lot of other ways)... so far anyway.

That said, I haven't been jumping from juice to juice either lol. ROC (and previously CCC) has been my ADV provider since ages and back then I only ran one mod, one tank and no drippers. Hence I didn't really run a lot of juices anyway.

Now that I have my trusty Velo, I've been more "proactive" in testing juice. Hopefully I can find more "hidden gems" out there, both in flavour quality and Nic strength.

Currently testing Uncle Graham Cracker (decent flavour, very little sweetener... not sure about the Nic yet). Also, Dakry4 frrom Composite seems to feel like it's at least "near" 6 (also not overly sweet so a winner so far).

94brian Airflow problem maybe. You sure you're giving your coils enough direct airflow? The Griffin's top airflow possibly kills flavour... coz at least that's what top flow does to my V2.

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 25 2016, 02:10 AM)
Anyone of you tried Lab #14 ?
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Nope, but willing to try if good enough. Is it a juice or a brand?

Currently have Keyjuice, Kilo and Steep in my sights (need to check out the hype). Also need to get some stock of P!nk, possibly the forerunner of local mutilayered juice (it's been around since forever lol - and it was crap good on my single coils before too).

am3rr Yeah Uncle Cracker. Sorry. Will edit my previous post. It's not "US" quality for sure, but so far it has been decent enough (primarily because I don't taste too much sweetener out of the juice lol).

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 25 2016, 02:25 AM)
local premium, juice that throat hit as close as US ones. Currently using 18mg  thumbup.gif
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Dam son. Brand name is pretty Google proof lol. Got a link to their Facebook or something?

Edit: Saw a local B&M stocking it. But only in 9. Anybody know where to get this #13 juice in 6?

Oh and TH isn't really *THE* indicator of nic level. You can actually emulate TH by other means (certain flavors add or enhance TH too). The only real indicator to nic level is... well... how fast you OD lol.

That said, it's still a pretty decent way to judge if all you have is tester liquid though lol.

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Scratch Steep from my "to-get" list. Initial thoughts? Mmmmm popcorns... Will update once I've gone at least though one bottle of the stuff - now need to rewick my V2 first.

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TristanX Hopefully you'be gotten your PD DIY sorted out... coz I might end up getting summore of the stuff from you lol.

Also, got some Rayon to test, maybe sometime later.

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 26 2016, 02:37 AM)
Check out Vape K, they only do cod and postage tho. No b&m.
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Roger, will put that under the "to get" list. Now need to get through that initial bottle of PD and Cracker first.

Just wicked and juiced the V2 with PD. The initial toot isn't as sweet as the tester single coiler (and "sweet" here being absolutely relative lol) but the different flavour notes are still quite noticeable.

Gonna give the Kendo some time to break in first though, the thing does take its sweet time (especially since I'm using some Eco/Blue now rather than Gold).

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QUOTE(greayx @ Jun 26 2016, 06:19 AM)
Serpent mini worth to get?
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If running single coils *only* is good for you, and if you do lunghits then yes, the Serpent Mini is the hottest thing since sliced bread now.

6oLsh0i_6o0z3 Yep, those are the ones. Thanks for the assist.

Update: By sahur time the cotton had broken in mostly and I could finally start to get some of that sweet caramel to shine through. That said, for a 6mg juice, it's tooting very smooth, possibly thanks to the buttery main flavour signature.

That said, it's nothing like GSC caramel popcorn though. It's more US microwave popcorn. But it does do it pretty well indeed. However, like every other creamy/buttery flavours for me, it definitely needs to be alternated with something less rich or you could pretty well grow "muak" of the richness.

Let's see if my feelings change after I go through the entire bottle, but so far it does what it says on the tin.

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QUOTE(aku_dia @ Jun 26 2016, 09:35 PM)
what the different taste on flavor between this clapton?
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Different mass, different power requirements hence different ramp up time. What that does to flavour I'm not so sure though.

Personally, the advantages of Claptons is outweighed by the power requirements for me, especially as I don't run high wattage multi-batt mods. A properly done twisted already provides at least 60-70% of Clap performance IMHO, with less building hassle (Claps are springy as heck) and power req.

That said, even a twisted dual coil setup bleeds battery life on a single mod lol - I barely can get half a day of heavy-medium vaping out of my VTC+V2... and I'm not even pushing high wattage out of it lol.

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QUOTE(snake1983 @ Jun 26 2016, 11:53 PM)
dont buy FT V2 fukkin waste of money, my cap is loosen like an old vag1na and altsmo is out of stock of V2 fml.
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Really? Now extremely thankful I didn't cheapen out on my V2 clone (was quite tempted to get the 40 bucks one lol) and got the Beco. Even now the cap is still tight as a cherry.

That said, as 6oLsh0i_6o0z3 pointed out, which SKU? The one with the extra screws? Coz that one looks like the Beco to me, at least as far as the goodies included are concerned.

BTW, finally got a taste of The Lab's #08 and #13. Personally prefer the #08, but both is not bad as far as my quick taste testing could tell me. Personally feel that #13 has too much jelly in it lol.

Funnily enough, after searching so hard for it, apparently one of the B&Ms around my homebase was carrying it lol. And no wonder searching for the makers here around KL yielded no Goog-hits, the folks at The Lab is JB based.

Also, got around to testing twisted SS on the 'Cado but not sure I really like running the 'Cado this way though. Initial flavour/vapour density increase *was* there, but it does gunk up so easily that I could see it needing a rewick far faster than normal coils - too fast for a "fuss-free daily carry" mod anyway.

It was also confusing the Joyetech chip somewhat too, a whole lot more than normal contact SS does anyway. So yeah, prolly back to "normal" coils next time... maybe spaced.

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QUOTE(6oLsh0i_6o0z3 @ Jun 27 2016, 06:08 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Vaporesso & Herakles next I assume? laugh.gif
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All 2ML? Hail the rise of the TPD rank era!

Being a lover of small tanks, I'm not complaining lol.
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QUOTE(snake1983 @ Jun 27 2016, 09:33 AM)
https://www.fasttech.com/p/4483101, this one. fukin piece of shit.
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Oh man, that was the one I thought was "almost" Beco. Quite thankful I didn't go the FT route then.

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QUOTE(6oLsh0i_6o0z3 @ Jun 27 2016, 10:56 PM)
I have someone in FB group saying he bought the Silver one, and it's been fine.

It's luck I guess? Maybe there is inconsistency in that particular version. Well, sheit. Make sure you got that replace soon snake1983
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Not that the Beco version was perfect either lol. Remember my old rant about off-straight posts on mine? The one I fixed already with some DIY by trimming the PEEK insulator.

Thankfully the O-rings (and everything else) are holding up though.

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