Hi all,i'm newcomer here.
my specs:
P4 Northwood 2.4C HT @ 2.53Ghz FSB 210Mhz with stock Vcore and cooling
512*2 Kingston DDR 333 at 2.5-3.3.7 @stock
MSI Neo 2 865 PE
MSI GeForce 5600 128Mb DDR OC@ 357/605
Chaplang PSU 450W

i'm so envious of u all. i dunno how to raise the CPU multiplier like u guys

This post has been edited by k!nex: Apr 9 2007, 04:45 PM

i'm an MSI mobo user,i found out tht its hard to overclock and performance only so so.when it POST it sometimes stuck at MSI logo screen for sometimes and i need CTRL+ALT+DEL.same wif one of my fren.both of us were using MSI NEO2 865 PE.

i do agree tht ASUS mobo is good for overclocking during my experience wif my S370 Pentium3.even wif stock config,the mobo has already overclocked ur processor and RAM by a small margin.thts y ppl say ASUS board has good performance. but then during the time i bought my P4 rig,only MSI has 8X AGP support mobo in my area.i'm was staying in Ipoh back then.thts y i bought MSI.

anyways, u guys think such device call "Auto Voltage Regulator" will help abt voltage fluctuations?

Actually i wanna ask u guys for help.dis shud be in OC section but after few days also no ppl answer me. so i come back to here.
my pc is quite old already dated back in year 2004.
neeed help abit here

Pentium 4 Northwood 2.4C HT @ 2.63Ghz VCore 1.55
MSI 865PE Neo2 S
2X Kingston Value RAM 512 DDR 333 2.5.3.3.7
MSI GeForce 5600 128MB
RAM chipset really dunno coz written on chip 'Value Ram' only.

From stock VCore, the most i can do is up FSB from 200 till 210.after tht,i must raise my VCore only can hit 218 in my BIOS setting.i'm using stock cooling.idle temperature minimum 33C,full load temperature is 52C(when i play C&C3).

My Vdimm still untouched at 2.5V and AGP at 1.5V.
when i up FSB,my RAM frequency will also increase paralel wif my CPU FSB.

now i'm stuck at 2.63Ghz at FSB 218 set in my BIOS,even if i raise my VCore to 1.565 and make my FSB 219,my pc cant boot into BIOS at all.

guys help me out here,is tht the scenario tht is my CPU has already reached its limits?
if not, wat else can i do abt it?i'm not sure abt the max VCore i can go for a Northwood proc.even Vdimm also

ok.i'll tell u wats in my BIOS.mine is AMIBIOS.when i go to 'Frequency/Voltage Control'.wat i can see is:

CPU Ratio Selection ->Locked
DRAM Frequency ->Auto (dis can change to '266,333,400,500,532')
Spread Spectrum ->Disabled
Adjust CPU Bus Clock(Mhz) ->218 (Min 200Mhz Max 500 Mhz)
DDR Clock(Mhz) ->363(dis one u cannot adjust at all)
Adjust AGP/PCI Clock(Mhz) ->66.66/33.33
CPU VCore Adjust ->Yes (can set to No also)
CPU VCore ->1.5500V(Min 1.5250 Max 2.3000)
DDR Power Voltage ->2.50V
AGP Power Voltage ->1.50V

PC beep one time during POST only.thts normal i noe.no other abnormal sounds le :-D i've seen other MOBO having the CPU/RAM ratio but mine dun hv it seems
BTW i'm only 16.dun call me dude le :-D sounds so old

This post has been edited by k!nex: Apr 16 2007, 01:18 AM

inside DRAM frequency mine only has only abt DRAM timings.nothing abt FSB/RAM ratio..do u think its abt time to increase my Vdimm?VCore i think still can increase somemore since most prescots(idle) here run much hotter than my northwood(full load).

i'll check wif it tonight wif CPU-Z.Btw i'm using Everest Home Edition to check my temp and all details of my hardwares.

if i set DRAM freq to 333,will it be my system bottleneck since proc can go higher but RAM stucked at 333..i was even thinking of hitting 400Mhz wif my 333Mhz RAM(the reason last time i go for 333 becoz it has lower CAS Latency rate than 400Mhz)

Off-topic:in 3DMark2003,which u download from official website,how much score can u get?wat GPU u're using?i wish to noe wat score u get using default CPU clockspeed and ur OCed CPU clockspeed.

i wish to noe whether my lappie can compete wif a P4 or not.mine is a Dothan 1.6Ghz,1024 DDR 333 SODIMM,ATI Mobility 9700 64Mb.default benchmark hit 3206 score.

i've found some breakthrough in my RAM:
DDR 333 clocked at some DDR 400 freq:


this is wat currently i can do wif my proc. i need more time to test it out


when FSB is set to 230 at BIOS,RAM will also follow the frequency(after i diabled SPD and loosen the timing).but then,my pc reboots after running everest(to check the sensor) for awhile.it is due to my RAM not enuf Vdimm?shud i increase it?

This post has been edited by k!nex: Apr 16 2007, 11:02 PM

push my RAM?at 220Mhz wif 2.5Vdimm still running stable.i tried running PCMARK05 continuosly for 20 times already still din hang.only when i up to 230Mhz only hang.tonight i'll find out wat RAM i'm using.but i saw the chip once before, its written as Value RAM den alot of numbers.doesn't write samsung or hynix or wateva 3rd party company name.its dated back in 2003.

ok.now i wanna confirm wif u guys wat RAM i hv.i've 2 pieces of RAM here

the oldest on is written on chip:

hynix 319A
HY5DU56822BT-J

the newer one is written on chip:

Kingston D3208DH1T-6
0339PT05

so how much can i do actually?can reach 250Mhz on RAM?currently 225Mhz running stable.

ur 7300GT is so much superior than my FX5600.urs is more than 3 times faster than mine.i'm using November 2006 Forceware to benchmark.btw,i hit the 2.8Ghz(1.55Vcore) barrier already.running 233Mhz on my KVR PC2700(2.6Vdimm)

if ur IDE controller is dead,its quite easy only wat.buy a PCI card IDE controller will do or u can buy PCI SATA controller convert everything into SATA including ur DVD writer.PCI IDE controller is not expensive IMO.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Apr 18 2007, 02:54 PM

raymond,can u tell me how u manage to clock ur northwood so high?u using 5:4 divider or 1:1?wats ur RAM freq currently at wat Vdimm?and proc Vcore how much u can go?

i'm quite puzzled here.currently i pushed my 2.4C to 2.81 already at 233Mhz FSB at 1:1 divider.Vcore 1.55,Vdimm 2.6.currently very stable.i tried pushing my FSB to 240 but the heat goes up 5 degrees at least when idle.anyway it wasn't stable.den tonight i tried 1.565 Vcore ,FSB at 250, Vdimm at 2.8.running 1:1.it can POST but stucked at Windows XP welcome screen. i think my PSU is the culprit here.normally i've Vcore fluctuations between 1.488 -1.536 at idle.

kabukiawie,do u play C&C3 tiberium wars?if u do play,den can it run at 'High' settings wif ur 7300GT smoothly?i'm quite interested in getting a 7300GT also.but do it require the usage of a 12V power from the PSU for AGP version?

This post has been edited by k!nex: Apr 19 2007, 09:22 PM

i saw ur second rig wif a hynix BT-J,y dun u try put it in ur main rig and push it higher.mine can easily hit 233Mhz at 2.6Vdimm.i tot D-43 is supposed to be same as BT-J ?ur RAM shud be able to push higher.Mine is still under burn-in test for a few days more.make ur timing 3-4-4-8 den try go higher, i quite interested to see wat u can do since u've a 3rd party cooling for ur proc.

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Added on April 20, 2007, 6:38 pmNorthwood stock Vcore supposed to be at 1.525 isn't it? u pushed to 1.775..!!i was like OMG i read somewhre inside dis forum tht northwood max shud be at 1.6V at most only. if not,the proc cant last long.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Apr 20 2007, 06:38 PM

1.9V!!!! how can u manage to cool ur proc?need water cooling kit?i saw at PC fair Ipoh,the Gigabyte brand one priced ard 500++ but their normal cooler only 90++ bucks.i tot i'm the only one wif a 40bucks PSU thts y Vcore fluctuating so much.i din expect u've a branded PSU and yet u hv the same prob...

BTW,the new coolers which are labeled 'FOR CORE 2 DUO AND ATHLON64 X2' ,actually our old P4 can use?i saw one at digital mall All IT.if i'm not mistaken,its name is Evercool Mars( bloody huge cooler(looks like an oversized onion priced at 200++).i'm quite interested since my stock one cant bring down enuf temperature when i clock to 2.9Ghz.

gratz to u since ur pc is running faster le actually i dun feel like using Orthos priority 9 to test stability.most of the time we dun need tht 100% stress from our CPU.even wif Hyper Thread,most of time, my max load is only ard 90% at most.and most new games also dun even utilize 100% processing power from the CPU.for me,as long as my PC wont auto restart when i'm into hardcore gaming den its not a problem for me even though it cant pass 24 hrs Orthos priority 9.different ppl see things in different perspective though.

i'm using northwood 2.4C.my stock fan reported in Everest can reach till 3.6k rpm.actually it doesn't depend on CPU temperature if i'm not mistaken.its due to ur mobo temperature.when my mobo hits 50++ degrees,the fan will rotate surpass 3k rpm.for me,not so much of noise,my case fans are much noisier but i put the tower on the floor,so it doesn't bothers me much.

currently doing burn-in for my CPU.FSB 250X12=3.00Ghz now running 1:1 wif KVR PC2700.boot time much better than stock :-D. u guys are right,1 ghz FSB really helps but i notice that HT doesn't contribute much.i just wish i've 2Mb L2 cache on my Northwood.aihzz.

since pengster post his SuperPI, i'll post mine also :-D
P4 2.4C @ 2.9Ghz(242X12) on stock cooling
1Gb Dual Channel PC2700 running 1:1 at 3-4-4-8
80Gb SATA Maxtor Diamond Max 7200rpm

walao...urs also 40.6 sec.now i'm trying very hard to beat urs

anyways, i tried 250Mhz wif my RAM and FSB, can boot to windows, can idle many days without restart,BUT run PCMark05 also freeze within 5minutes.Vdimm at 2.85V.my mobo can support up to 3.3V on Vdimm.now i wanna noe wats the limit of my RAM.

ur mobo is 865 or 875 chipset?is it 865 chipset hv lesser OC capability than 875 series?

This post has been edited by k!nex: Apr 30 2007, 02:30 AM

thts the Extreme Edition..but then 865 chipset series mobo can support it or not? in my mobo manual, it stated tht it only supports northwood and prescort.tht TS there mention 42-43 C on idle,but then i feel its quite hot also at stock.he's using hyper 47 cooler.shud be below 34C for the type of cooler for normal proc at idle at stock setting.

dis afternoon i went LYP.seems tht silverstone has 400Watt+ PSU.not very expensive.130 at most.but u can bargain for a better price.u just using a 6800xt.which is not a powerful card.6800gt and 6800ultra's smaller brother :-D
try enlight brand.they're also true power series.quite reliable since those p3 days.

last time i log in here was kabukiawie just fixed his 7300GT.i just bought a 7600GS.i dunno y.performance was pityful compare to his 7300GT since he also can score 9k wif 3dmark03.Mine only 9700+ mark(sound test not including since i using creative vibra).


tht I-GREEN PSU has 85% efficiency.acbel has 80% efficiency.but i feel tht I-GREEN is way too expensive compare to acbel and silverstone.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jun 25 2007, 09:26 PM

u're lucky ...DDR2 change DDR3.u're rite,mine is DDR2 coz nowadays i cant find any AGP 7600gs ddr3 already.7600GT DDR3 is 120+bucks more(550+ bucks is quite costly for me).my 7600gs clocked at 527/852 now.the best i can do without getting artifacts.
kabukiawie,ur 7300GT is damm good.500/1400 is the best u can push?i wonder how much u bought it?mine is 400 bucks.i saw other 7300GT DDR3 clocked at 400/1000 priced at 330+ like dat now.

u guys are right also.vista dun hv good drivers yet for games.if u go check out other benchmarks website.vista give less fps compare to xp wif the 100% same hardware.if u wan tht aero interface,might as well use existing vista den download the vista transformation pack from the 'software' thread in this forum.

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Added on June 27, 2007, 6:17 pmi feel tht ur mobo is limiting u.not ur RAM.maybe u try find a newer BIOS upgrade.gratz to u for getting a hold on a 2.8C.did u use the tweak865 utility to enable performance mode for ur RAM when u benchmark using superPI?i heard it gives abit of results.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jun 27 2007, 06:17 PM