u mean palit 7300GT sonic edition rite?actually i also wanted to buy tht one at first.its priced at 310 after discount at LYP.i can remember tht the box written there core 400,memory 1000 DDR3.if u say till like dat,lucky i din buy tht 7300.i went for 7600 just because of the 12 pixel pipeline vs the 8 pixel pipeline tht 7300 has.

yea, i agree 7600GT AGP version is so expensive.seems tht u also bought winfast,same brand as my 7600gs

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Added on June 27, 2007, 8:19 pmRMA twice but u gain urself DDR3 over DDR2. well worth it if u ask me

anyways,i've a question for u.i saw ur siggy,ur laptop which has ATI mobile Radeon.
do u noe dat mobile catalyst 7.6 driver has came out? did u try download it?i tried.but my browser says FILE NOT FOUND.

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Added on June 27, 2007, 8:23 pmi'm not an expert here though.but before u spend any cash on coolers.check:
1. Is ur casing very near to the wall?
2. Is ur CPU fan clogged wif dust?
3. Is ur casing ventilation fan spoilt/clogged wif dust?

IF all ur answers are no,then u try open the side of the casing.put on ard 2 hrs.see wats the temp at idle.

actually wat cooler to get depends on ur budget.state ur budget so we can help u better

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jun 27 2007, 08:23 PM

no wonder so expensive.400 bucks is alot for a 7300GT series.ur prescott more powerful actually due to the 1MB L2 cache compare to 512kb(Northwood).ALL games benefit from the extra L2 cache.the 800 FSB wont help much.proof is tht new 1333FSB C2D vs 1066FSB C2D.only 3-5% improvements.

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Added on June 29, 2007, 1:22 amactually no.MSI also has AGP 7600GT. BUT its a DDR2 version.i've seen it at LYP selling at 468.but i searched the whole LYP,they only hv winfast brand for DDR3 AGP 7600GT.EVGA brand is rare here.XFX only mass available for PCI-E version.i dun feel tht 7600GT is bottlenecked by CPU.

Actually i upgrade to 7600GS from my FX5600 just to get ready for the starcraft2 game which is on STAR newspaper IN-TECH section few weeks ago.it looks promising.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jun 29 2007, 01:24 AM

u're lucky tht he refunded u.coz actually the proc is working,but its not fast only.anyways,wat happened to ur 6800? still unsold?u're planning to get a quad core kentsfield is it?


oh yea guys,another question.i need another opinion.i wan buy a new PSU.ard 300+bucks range.wat i've noted are:

Acbel 500Watt -300 bucks
Silverstone Strider ST56F 560Watt -350 bucks
maybe Cooler Master Real Power Series

which one would u recommend? and pls state reason y?
i wan a PSU which has very stable 12V and gives my proc stable Vcore.my cheap PSU Vcore can fluctuate up to 0.050V when operating even at idle.thts limiting me from my OC.i've settled much on my RAM problem as i managed to squeeze till 256MhzX2 from my KVR PC2700 BT-J RAM after installing some RAM heatsinks.now the problem is my VCORE!!!!

my PC auto restarts when VCore drop below 1.550V.actually i set my BIOS at 1.6V.VCore currently can fluctuate between 1.548-1.600.if i were to set my Vcore higher by a notch,it would be 1.7V already.very dangerous to me.but i've seen ppl in other forums using air cooling did tht before at 1.7V for a northwood.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jul 1 2007, 04:33 AM

i noe abt tht.but the thing is i'm planning to get a crossfire ATI 2600XT DDR4 in future when quad core become mainstream.the strider 560W only has 2 12V rails,but acbel 500W has 3 12V rails(plus tht cute LCD screen :-D) very hard to choose actually coz both have good comments from reviewers at other forums.but i've seen forumers here whos using strider 560W said tht they feel sort of electric current flowing on their casing itself when they on heaters at home.

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Added on July 1, 2007, 11:29 pmwow! how come mobo can kong together wif the proc?? i guess its heavily OCed till the capasitors died.but then 2.8c is only 4 years at most. so fast die?

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jul 1 2007, 11:29 PM

urgent question here...
dis may sound abit noob from me.
after listening pengster suggestion, i went to get the Silverstone Strider 560W PSU

a big problem now is:
the ATX connector from the PSU has 24 pins.BUT my MSI 865PE Neo 2 S mobo ATX connector only has 20 pins.so it cant fit.so u guys hv any solution for dis??

thank u very much for ur reply.now its fixed le.tht silverstone PSU's 24 pin ATX plug cannot detach the 4 pins.wat i did was:



the scenario is like dis.dunno u all understand or not dis pic.its just tht the PSU ATX plug too big so i just ignore the first 4 connectors.BUT the first 4 connectors occupy one of my IDE connector on my mobo which is exactly next to the ATX connector.i had to strecth tht plastic around the IDE connector so tht the PSU ATX plug can snap nicely onto the mobo ATX connector.so tht IDE connector cannot be used already.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jul 2 2007, 08:19 PM

L2 cache amount directly reflects on gaming capability.and remember.Northwood only till SSE2.Prescort has SSE3.for me,100 Mhz increment in total clock speed is 100 mark like dat in 3D03.

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Added on July 6, 2007, 1:16 amur 9550 can put 'high' graphic setting? if can means u hv a very good driver already.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jul 6 2007, 01:16 AM

abt vcore and vdimm.if u hv a prescort,max vcore on aircooling is 1.6V,if u hv a northwood,max vcore is 1.7V.for DDR1,max Vdimm recommended is 2.8V,but if u wan go higher,2.85V also can.but not recommended tht u go any higher than tht coz ur RAM will be too hot, den ur pc will hang due to RAM overheating.

seriously though, the MSI Neo2 series dun hv problems wif RAM compatibility.infact its quite good for normal use.but OC wise,its not as good as Asus.my Neo2-S hardly hit 250FSB stable for everyday usage.

Anyone tried Transformers:The Game wif P4 478?mine during stages is ok.but the cutscenes are laggy though.i'm sure not GC problem.proc slow. loading also slow.

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Added on July 16, 2007, 12:51 amif u upgrade to 7800GS also, u'll only get better 3rdMark.overall gaming also wont hv a so significant performance gain.ur proc is bottlenecking the 7800GS.if wan upgrade,the best for p4 is only 256MB 7600GT DDR3 if wan minimise proc bottleneck(unless u hv p4 gallatin)

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jul 16 2007, 12:54 AM

nice prescort u hv there.SuperPI 1M how much wif 1:1 setting?alwiz try to get 1:1.get 5:4 also got big difference in superPI and even 3Dmark.proc run slower nvm as long as RAM can keep up wif the speed.try loosen ur timing to go higher.Vdimm for most DDR1 at best is alwiz 2.8v if u wan OC.

if i were u,i'll go for higher Vcore like 1.6V.monitor temp while using orthos.if temp <60C,den OC higher.P4 throttles down at around 80C.if u use Hynix chip,alwiz aim for higher bandwidth.no point aim for good timing.i've lousy timing, but i can go high frequency.no need use those super expensive HyperX RAM.and one more thing,i noticed tht when ur RAMs get too hot, ur pc will hang,so i suggest stick to 2.8V as Vdimm.try get those RAM heatspreader and install urself.i bought 6.50bucks each only from ALL IT.i think raymond also using.got abit of difference:-D

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jul 19 2007, 10:25 PM

tht day u wrote abt increasing FSB 2 Mhz at a time slowly right?it works it seems.it is better than jumping 5 Mhz at a time.can hit higher clock speed.
normally i do it at night den leave pc on for orthos 9 hrs like dat.proven ur method is effective

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Added on July 23, 2007, 6:01 pmdepends on wat type of motherboard u're using.state ur motherboard brand and model pls

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Added on July 23, 2007, 6:13 pmsince u're a beginner,dun play wif Vcore and Vdimm yet.slowly increase FSB only .IF cannot POST.normally MSI mobo(i'm MSI mobo user but not ur model), when u press reset 4-5 times after u realise u cannot POST,den ur setting will be reset to default.if cannot,den no big deal,use the reset jumper in ur mobo.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jul 23 2007, 06:15 PM

y wan buy micro atk?buy the normal atk better.go garage sale and find better.s478 mobo is obsolete already.now only hv L775 mobo everywhere.

for ur mobo, the best u can do is only 2.75V for ur Vdimm and 1.575V for Vcore?its an Asus...how come so limited?shud be able to clock 240+FSB easily.its ur proc hang or it auto reboot when u do orthos in an hour??auto reboot means Vcore not enuf or Vcore fluctuates too much.if hang,for my pc is coz my RAM overheat.its quite hard to get a good fan RAM cooler even in kl.too expensive.FYI, my Vdimm is 2.85V most of the time.mobo can go till 3.3Vdimm.

nolaa.mine is 2.5Vdimm minimum,max 3.3V.Vcore minimum 1.525V, max 2.1V
at least u're better than me,u only 3 years. i'm stucked wif my S478 for 4years already after august dis year.

if ur old mobo is a MSI Neo2 series wif 865 chipset,den ur max Vdimm i can confirm is 3.3V. problem is,MSI mobo OC capability not so good no matter how high u set voltage.mine hit the wall at FSB 245.

wow!ur 7600GS can hit 600Mhz wif ur core.mine same chipset as u,but different RAM only.but most 7600GS owners cant set above 550Mhz core coz sure got artifacts.ur score is so much better.mine is 9.9k wif 7600GS DDR2 527/426,3Dmark03,cpu@2.95Ghz,FSB 245 using 94.24 drivers from Leadtek.i only get 16k for 3dmark01 pro.