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Investment KUCHAI EAST @ KUCHAI LAMA, The tallest Residential Block in Kuchai

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post Sep 8 2022, 09:17 AM

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What a nightmare for buyers! The amount of anxiety is palpable. Is it confirmed abandoned? So if they built up to your floor then you’re liable to service the loan on a big chunk.

I didn’t get what Charsiew Association was initially. Damn blur 😂
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post Sep 9 2022, 04:22 PM

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It’s a free market. Don’t look to your politicians to solve all problems. They do pretty much have robust guidelines for developments if I’m not mistaken. There will still be developers who will fail despite best efforts. Admittedly things could be tightened up a bit more but it has the impact of making it more costly for buyers.
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post Sep 27 2022, 09:38 AM

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Even if u want new, look for the overhang units. Still alot but work out what are your negotiable and non-negotiables.

Next year gonna be worse. All the Covid spending gonna come home to roost. If you still think property is the path to riches then you need that slapped out of you.
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post Oct 12 2022, 05:49 AM

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QUOTE(812799 @ Oct 11 2022, 04:13 PM)
after MCO ended, can see alrdy dead, i see this building everyday ... feel sorry for the buyers, hopefully other dev. will take over and complete it.
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The reality is that times are lean and even white knights need an element of profitability to rescue something. It’s going to be a while yet before this is done.
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post Oct 12 2022, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(812799 @ Oct 12 2022, 09:22 AM)
asked my friend bout it, looks like another developer is picking it up, no names shall be mentioned atm
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Don’t give ppl false hope till things are confirmed. These buyers are prime targets for heart attacks as is.

Speaking of which how is this dealt with for the deceased? Is the snp invalidated or does it pass on to the next gen? Terrible burden if so.

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post Oct 23 2022, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Oct 23 2022, 04:32 PM)
Tales of greed and sorrow abounds since time immemorial ....... and will continue as we progress forward 🤷
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But property development and sales is one of the easiest things to regulate as housing is a core political ministry and historically there’s so many precedents. Easier to regulate than bitcoin for example.

There has to be protections for all as it is a golden goose if they don’t kill it.

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post Oct 24 2022, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Buffalo Soldier @ Oct 24 2022, 04:34 PM)
Something could be easy to regulate but when there is no incentive to regulate it, then there is no political will/pressure to regulate it.

Housing/property development... regulate, not regulate, or semi regulate... at the end same people/party gets voted.

Water quality (or lack of quality) in Kelantan is not a recent phenomena, but same people will get voted.
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Shouldn’t it be best practice for the common good? What is the point of government then? A question we all ask I suppose.
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post Nov 18 2022, 05:47 AM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Nov 17 2022, 07:53 PM)
Why not you look into the commercial sense of a possible white knight to this proj. It gotta be win win driven. There is no santa in business world

You may look into, what are the potential adjacent land use there? The adjacent vacant land ownership for instance ?
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Land values need to rise enough for there to be a white knight for this project to make it viable for a developer. So we’re quite a few years of from a saviour I believe.

How many white knights have come to plaza rakyat’s rescue?
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post Nov 18 2022, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Nov 18 2022, 07:27 AM)
Liquidation & valuation process on this developer & proj has not commenced? Jialat

What is the stage completion of this proj?
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Hailat to the max. You can wait till menopause.
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post Nov 19 2022, 04:41 AM

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QUOTE(tongyk @ Nov 19 2022, 12:16 AM)
Based on what their background is still not very convincing if for me to put the bet on it.

Back on those days I was from a bank that they have really come out with developers in tier that they will choose to finance with when it comes to undercon. Basically there are 4 tiers.

Tier 1: YTL, SP Setia, Berjaya Property, Sunway, Tropicana Group, UOA Group, UEM Sunrise, IJM, Gamuda, Mahsing, IOI, Malton, SDB, Tan & Tan, BRDB, Perdana Parkcity and etc these are all big names with strong financial background.

Tier 2: UDA Land, Trinity, Platinum Victory, Akisama, Exsim, Boustead, Ivory Group and many more those are also very good and competent to complete their projects.

Tier 3: AmberHomes, Mayland Group and many more smaller in scale but somehow there are track records focus on property developments.

Tier 4: Talam Group and those blacklisted too many.

I'm lucky that I know there is this list to help me place my bet on my undercon projects and so far all of its are able to complete although with some defect issues. But the point is project must complete otherwise it's zero value. The risk is very high on buyer side. Doesn't matter, where is located or price on but must choose the right developer if buying on undercon. I will always check if I have doubt on their background through ssm and ctos on their companies and directors background.

And actually many private colleges are losing money except those big one and money games can appear in TV show too. Due diligent is really important when deciding on undercon properties.

I think a lot of victims also focus on price and location itself and tend to ignore the credibility of the developer. It's a big lesson for everyone including future buyers. You must know who you buy with.
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Well said, we fixated a lot on the superficial things that we forgot that project failure still exists and can ruin you.

It shouldn’t be common in this day and age but never say never. Risk mitigation is back on the table instead of just looking at layout, facilities etc.

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post Nov 19 2022, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 19 2022, 07:11 AM)
As long purchasers want 'easy' property ownership, they are looking for financial disaster. It doesnt matter completed or abandoned projects.
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Developers have made it very “easy” to buy property. That’s the big appeal of under con projects.

Regardless, there’s people suffering now from a few strokes of the pen on a SPA. Ignorant or not they deserve a bit of sympathy. Be very careful with small time or unproven developers.
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post Nov 29 2022, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Nov 29 2022, 09:12 AM)
Pretty norm for top-up sum from white knight unless there are some common facilities i.e unassign carpark lots that can be assign to them as part of the increased cost, unfortunately top-up sum will not be loanable since undercon project-personal loan might be option depending on owner profile
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In the end, you paid a lot more and waited longer than if you had just gone to a reputable developer in the first place.

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post Nov 29 2022, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 29 2022, 12:07 PM)
Location first, pricing second and developer third priority.

How many can afford dpc ?
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Why the need to compare to DPC? Heck if one had some foresight and bought Southbrooks at 600+ psf, you’d be laughing now with a 50% gain despite Covid.

Perhaps a rejigging of priorities is in order - 1. Developer 2. Price 3. Location. I know everyone says location is important but if you wanted to stay in kuchai lama then almost anywhere in KV is an ok substitute. The only time location really matters is if it’s premium or TOD, family aside.
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post Nov 29 2022, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 29 2022, 12:19 PM)
People who live in SS2 may not like DU or DJ or even 1U.

Similar to those in Tmn Desa, Kuchai and OUG

Didnt ex Setia boss took many buyers to holland from semenyih ? And would any existing owners buyer another eco world project ?
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I think people can be more fluid in what they accept but I understand the nostalgia bias. Ultimately, it’s your prerogative to get the best bang for your buck.

What happened with eco world? They deliver their projects don’t they? Won’t please everyone so buyer beware.
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post Jan 8 2023, 05:21 AM

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QUOTE(jehhlim @ Jan 8 2023, 01:12 AM)
The wrong action is to buy undercon instead of completed units…u see what u get
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Our culture is that everyone wants new things rather than fix and maintain old things. This will not change in our generation.

The boundaries of KV are getting ever extended and old industrial areas are being repurposed as well as old residential estates. We have another few decades of high rise releases before old becomes the new new.
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post Jan 31 2023, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ch0wCh0w @ Jan 31 2023, 05:28 PM)
Still looking for his horse
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post Feb 7 2023, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(jehhlim @ Feb 7 2023, 01:40 PM)
The banner is so big that everyone pass by also can see…those ppl that went to nsk kuchai lama will not miss out the banner…poor buyers still suffering and now with this public announcement…victims dirty laundry out on display
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Aiya what dirty laundry is there? It’s already a gone case. The laundry is well and truly ripped to bits. Just need to get new clothes or hope someone can work out a way to patch it up.
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post Feb 10 2023, 04:52 AM

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QUOTE(jehhlim @ Feb 9 2023, 09:16 PM)
Thats what they said when this proj was marketed to all the fishes…look at what happened now
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This developer has done the right thing. They created a huge marketing funnel with silly ah beng videos to showcase the project and showcase the unit as an affordable housing for the area. Shut down conversations about density and number of lifts and sell the heck out of it. If there is no contrarian critique then the sales engine is too strong for the average person. I’ve said this time and again.
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post Feb 10 2023, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(jehhlim @ Feb 10 2023, 10:58 AM)
These tactic still workable? There is 500++ abandoned and sick projects waiting to be completed…there is an immensed overlog…and with the current supply overhang, there is no need to FOMO
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As people have mentioned, memories are short and high pressure sales tactics work on sheeple to create FOMO.
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post Feb 18 2023, 04:05 PM

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Is this a lesson on if it’s too cheap and too good to be true then it most likely won’t come to fruition?

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