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sunauto
post Jan 1 2007, 11:44 PM

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You can but you'll never get to hear the lossless audio formats in its full glory if you're talking about Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players. Of course, the first batch of HDMI amps ain't cheap but eventually, all amps in the market will have HDMI, probably 2-3 years down the road. rclxms.gif

I prefer using a HDMI amp to act as a HDMI video selector because my LCD has two HDMIs only, in my humble opinion is ain't enough as most equipment these days have HDMI outputs. sweat.gif


QUOTE(piscesguy @ Jan 1 2007, 03:24 PM)
Yes SiriuslyCold, I kinda agree what u said. I think HDMI is for digital display from source to tv and for digital audio can still stick to coax or optical.
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post Jan 2 2007, 11:52 AM

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Nah, dual format players will be coming in 2008, I believe both formats will survive, just like SACD and DVD-Audio. The softwares are not that expensive, just order them from the US, they're around RM120 to RM150 each the most including DHL shipping, that's the same price we are paying for Region 1 dvds at any Speedy Videos. To me, they ain't that expensive if compared to PS3 or XBOX 360 original games. Of course, the price will go down too if you can wait but we're not in a hurry anyway, why get a killer amp when software is limited, only a fraction of the movies are on the new formats and I can't even watch Jurassic Park on HD-DVD format either. doh.gif

QUOTE(piscesguy @ Jan 2 2007, 07:55 AM)
Yes u r right, probably HDMI amp price will go down in 2-3 years time but talking about Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players I think its gonna wait at least 5 years to get an affordable player in Malaysia. Even then maybe the disc itself will be expensive too.

By the way, which format is more superior? Blu-Ray or HD-DVD ? Honestly, I think in the future only 1 of these format will replace DVD. Any comment?
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post Jan 2 2007, 06:52 PM

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Actually, you can't come to such a conclusion just because HD-DVD is backed by Microsoft. Don't forget Sony owns 60% of Hollywood and about 80% of the movies are on Blu-Ray. Yeah, no doubt movies like Fast And Furious, Van Helsing, etc are on HD-DVD only but at the end of the day, I prefer to get a dual format player, I don't really care much about the pricing, it's just a few dollars of difference between these two formats and even if you convert it to RM, that's just the price of a Starbucks ice blended drink, still okay lah in my opinion. rclxms.gif

For me, I want a dual format player so but meanwhile I'll just use my XBOX HD-DVD drive to watch my HD-DVD movies first and I'll probably get a PS3 this year and it can play Blu-Ray movies too but of course, I'm still on the lookout for a proper Blu-Ray / HD-DVD hybrid players but I think LG and Samsung will be the first to launch a dual format player, followed by other brands if successful.


QUOTE(piscesguy @ Jan 2 2007, 04:34 PM)
I beg to differ. I still think only 1 format will survive and that is HD-DVD. I m saying this because of the CHEAPER PRICE for both players and discs. Moreover is is supported by Microsoft. drool.gif Dual format players? Not sure it can play both format perfectly. I believe only a dedicated player produce the best result.
I heard that we can buy an external drive to read HD-DVDs as long as we have a USB port in the PC and more likely HD-DVD will become a "standard drive" for PC in the future. icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 4 2007, 11:20 AM

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However, the latest reports said otherwise because NEC has already developed a chip to support both formats, it will eventually be a reality one day, I rather pay more for a dual format player than getting them seperately as long as the dual format player is of good quality, my LCD has two HDMI inputs, I can't afford to have tons of players with HDMI output, it will be messy, the less the better, I need to reserve one for my future PS3. sweat.gif

I have a strong feeling that a dual format player is the only solution to ensure the survival of these two formats since both camps failed to agree on a single format for the sake of consumers. Blu-Ray has the most support from Hollywood studios, it has more storage space but somehow, pictures look better on HD-DVDs even though it has less storage space. Blu-Ray will win in the sound department so both formats have their own pros and cons and I know that Blu-Ray can use the same codecs as HD-DVD but even both formats encoded with the same codecs like VC-1, HD-DVD still looked slightly better in terms of constrast and sharpness. Weird but true.

QUOTE(piscesguy @ Jan 4 2007, 08:46 AM)
Actually LG and Samsung have decided to cancel plan to produce combo devices (Blu-Ray/HD DVD). I think the costs of producing such player involve very high cost because of "some" part of the licensing agreement, if the player is very expensive I don't think the majority of consumer will be interested.I think next year might not be possible to get an affordable combo player after all.
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post Jan 4 2007, 12:58 PM

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For VHS and Betamax, they couldn't come out with the dual format player which is not possible at that time but this time around, Blu-Ray and HD-DVD will be different because a dual format player is possible, not a rumour but technically possible. It will benefit consumers if a dual format player is out because we can't afford to let one of the formats die off just like that and dual format players will ensure next gen dvds will survive as the major hollywood movies are divided between the two formats and that is not inclusive of Japanese, Korean, HK movies even our local movies, like Sepet, Cicakman, etc ....... they haven't decided which format they wanna support either. I'm supporting dual format players for the best interest of everyone. It will be like SACD and DVD-Audio, both formats surviving alongside each other. That's better than having both formats disappear shortly in the market. sweat.gif



QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Jan 4 2007, 11:53 AM)
remember what happened with VHS and Beta - well i guess most of you were too young...

the war was decided by default when the pron industry went with VHS wink.gif

OK its different because the media is physically the same size and it'll be less difficult to have a combo - or universal player - which makes it moot who wins the war eventually.

someone's got a combo HTPC http://www.vidabox.com/
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post Jan 4 2007, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Jan 4 2007, 01:31 PM)
more like lying alongside each other in critical condition actually.
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Well, if they're priced lower, they still have a chance to replace ordinary audio cds, I still prefer listening to SACDs or DVD Audios anytime despite the limited choices.

QUOTE(jwyj @ Jan 4 2007, 04:11 PM)
Would you say that the yammy 2600 is a good buy? Or the newer 2700?
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I'm using Yammy 2600 but this will be my last Yammy, I have used two Yammies before but all have serious QC or reliability problems, first one, my 2400's cooling fan failed so the centre and rear speaker amplifier was fried (can't be repaired, need to change the whole freaking board which cost a bomb sweat.gif ), I've sold it here a few months back. Then, my 2600 has a faulty remote control and now the display is totally konk as well, costs RM200 to buy a new remote control. My uncle has a 4600, pretty high end amp but the tone controls went cuckcoo, can't adjust the settings anymore, sent to Yamaha, they said IC problem, cost a bomb, he didn't repair it, just traded it in to the Hi-Fi shop without telling them the problem, they wouldn't know anyway if we just kept quiet, my uncle got a Denon instead, forgot which model but he was happy with it. tongue.gif

I can't recommend which amp is better but definitely not Yammy, sound is good but quality wise is poor. For the time being, I'll just use my 2600 first, thought of changing to another amp but maybe later until there's one that supports the next gen audio formats or codecs. Just a friendly advice, it might be a coincedence but I seriously doubt it. doh.gif
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post Jan 5 2007, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Jan 4 2007, 08:09 PM)
Hey sunauto, it seems your guess is correct after all,
LG Electronics to sell 1st DVD player that will play both rival high-definition DVD formats. Lets wait and see whats the price. whistling.gif

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...118&sec=apworld
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Well, with both formats didn't make much of an impact for the Christmas season, it's a good move by them to introduce dual format players because who doesn't want a player that can play all movies, right? It's not about whether HD-DVD or Blu-Ray is better but the bottomline, they're both superior to standard dvds, this ain't a VHS and VCD comparison, they're leaps and bounds better than our standard dvds so lets hope these dual formats are cheap and affordable.

QUOTE(amacharu @ Jan 5 2007, 01:36 AM)
sorry to interrupt. i have a question here

can i connect a HDMI DVD player to my pc lcd monitor (which is HDCP compliant) via HDMI / DVI conversion cable?

The conversion cable

As for the audio, i'm planning to use my z-680 via coax
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That's possible Bro as long as your monitor is HDCP compliant but whether it could do 1080P, 1080i or 720P, it depends on your monitor's native resolution.
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post Jan 7 2007, 09:11 PM

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The newer models are not as good as those days, those black and heavy Yammies from Japan. Those were as solid as a tank and very reliable but sadly, the buatan Malaysia ones are not that reliable. cry.gif

Denon is quite reliable and the sound is good. It will be my first choice for my next amp upgrade, hopefully, the latest one to support the latest audio codecs for Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. Of course, it won't be this year for sure, I'll wait for the prices to drop first. I'm certainly not that eager to be the first to own one yet.

QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 7 2007, 06:34 PM)
my uncle is using Yammie 757. No prob to date. Maybe newer model only got problem. I am using Denon AVR-2802. Been serving me well for all these years. Good.
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post Apr 10 2007, 02:42 PM

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7.1 systems are actually 6.1 with an extra surround back speaker. Movies don't really support up to 7.1 channels yet, not even for Blu-Rays and HD-DVDs yet. Maybe in the future but more speakers will mean a more messy setup because of all the speaker cables. shakehead.gif

QUOTE(htkaki @ Apr 10 2007, 10:40 AM)
yep, i guess only mid to top range model will be equipped with the latest sound format. So, it wld be easily above RM4K mark. The current 6.1 / 7.1 AV  rcvrs have too limited software to fully utilise it. Only 6.1 the most (DD EX and DTS ES).
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