gt died when they released gt3.it became SLOW. the best gt was gt2, with mean ass blow off sound, unlimited racing mod and drift ready.ohyeah, and a killer soundtract.graphics mean shit to me, and whats up with gt4 cant load your own garagewhen u play network mode?this sucks when i take my gt4 online with xlink kai. sigh. when i play forza onxbox, i remembered how much it resembled the handling of gt2. they only annoying thing about forza is the screeching tires sound.