In recognition of a growing problem of security, various local authorities and state governments have issued guidelines for guarded communities. These guidelines do allow erection of guard houses and the employment of private security based on 85% consent by the residents in the area affected. For example, in Selangor, the Selangor Housing and Property Board and the local authorities allow guard houses to be built on the following guidelines:-

i. Applications made through Resident Association (RA) only;

ii. Consent by 85% of the residents;

iii. Agreement must be made between RA and Local Authority;

iv. Guard house without barrier are allowed and the location should not obstruct traffic (situated at road shoulder only);

v. The size of the guard house should not exceed 6ft x 8ft or other sizes that the Local Authority thinks fit and suitable;

vi. The location and design of the guard house must be approved by the Local Authority;

vii. A written consent from Local Authority and Land Administrator (LA) for the construction of guard house on reserved road/vacant land must first be obtained;

viii. Appointed security guards must be registered with Ministry of Home Affairs or with other relevant agencies;

ix. Not to prevent/obstruct passing vehicles from entering the guarded area; and

x. LA and other utility companies are free to conduct their maintenance work in the guarded area.

The authorities do sometimes “turn a blind eye” to allow some form of limited barriers as long as they do not deny access nor unduly obstruct traffic and have the overwhelming support of local residents.

http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/conveyancin...ies_part_i.html
Landmark win for RA
FEDERAL COURT OF MALAYSIA
Au Kean Hoe v. Persatuan Penduduk D’Villa Equestrian [Civil
Appeal No. 02(f)- 50 - 08/2013(B)]
http://www.kehakiman.gov.my/directory/judg...29_Presumry.pdf

There are 3 types from my understanding:

1.) Guard house and fencing built by developer / residents, but the management is run by the residents association. Some people call this as FnG. Advantage for this scheme is resident normally pay very minimum maintenance fees. Disadvantage is there is no rule protecting this scheme, residents can choose not to pay the maintenance fees and residents association can't do anything on them, since this scheme is on voluntairy basis.

2.) Guard house and fencing built by developer only, and the management is run by the developer mainly. Units are in individual title. Developer has signed an DMC with the purchaser so the purchaser is bound by some rules set in the DMC. So, there is somehow a "legal document" that require the residents to pay maintenance fees. Some people call this GnG but there are people call this FnG as well. Advantage for this scheme would be the housing area is more properly managed if compared to RA, as developer normally is more experience in handling the issues and generally they are more financially sound compare to residents association. Disadvantage for this scheme is normally the maintenance fees is higher, since developer normally provide more advanced security system to the residents compare to RA (budget issue).

3.) Guard house and fencing built by developer only, and the management is run by the developer mainly. Units are under strata title. Most people call this GnG. Developer has signed an DMC with the purchaser so the purchaser is bound by some rules set in the DMC. On top of that, strata title act does provide protection that every residents must pay the maintenance fees. Advantage for this scheme same as (2) as the housing area is more properly managed if compared to RA, as developer normally is more experience in handling the issues and generally they are more financially sound compare to residents association. Disadvantage for this scheme is normally the maintenance fees is highest, since all the maintenance of all facilities inside the fencing area need be shared by the residents.

If I understand correctly from above your developer has built guard house and fencing but has yet to apply for the approval of local authority therefore making both facilities "illegal" , instead the developer tell RA to submit application.

IMHO this is definately something wrong, the lay-out plan submitted by the developer to local authority should have included building of the guard house and fencing otherwise how to get CCC support from LA?

If really the case, instead of wasting time to argue with this irresponsible developer quickly apply for approval from LA, you may refer to my earlier post if relevant.

Don't forget to publish the name of this irresponsible developer!!

DMC is a binding documents between buyers and developer but difficult to enforce especially after individual title is issued, RA not strong and developer wash hand, just my two cents..

If it is illegal, how can the developer build the guard house and fencing at the first place? Developer won't be so naive until don't know MPKJ won't accept such handover on the common facilities if there is no prior approval on the guard house and fencing. My guess would be it is actually the first category, but developer tends to "polish" it as second group, to boast the sale price.

Please take note that when the management is given back to RA, that's mean the DMC is no more valid, because it is an agreement between the purchaser and developer, and not the between the RA and the developer.

For a real second group project, the developer will settle the guard house and fencing issue with the local authority and will manage accordingly until exit.

How come? I remember SHL hand over the guard house of Palm Walk together with the approval from MPKJ, even though there is no DMC or whatever.

If the developer propose to assist that not too bad, engage them actively and go ahead to "legalise" the security facilities. 

This is not the first time this award winning developer didn't keep his promise, check the forum you will know.

Anyway, for the sake of your community safety, this is better to apply sooner than later.

Request the developer to assist the RA to send in the application, it shall involve some technical documents about the layout plan of guard house, fencing layout, etc.. More importantly, need to get at least 70% signatures from all the residents that they support to have the guard house and fencing..

Ultimately RA needs to handle the guard service, to run it, definitely needs the contribution from residents. If there is no RA and developer wash hand, it will be difficult to run the security service anymore, bad impact to every resident as well.

Indeed. Use this "golden opportunity" to press the developer to assist the RA as much as possible on the application, especially preparation of technical documents for submission to the local authority. RA normally can't provide those documents and they need to appoint external company to do it and it will take cost (from RA / residents) for sure.

Developer has the team I presume and hence should ask them to assist your RA on this.

so funny bad support? I thought every1 prefer guarded..

Do your community pay last 2 years?

If RM8 per hour with 3 guards per shift, security fee after GST with 10% buffer approximately RM20K per month, how many semiD & superlinks in your area?

If 100% pay, your maintenance fee received should be RM33,920, why need 5 guards per shifts are there multiple entry/exit points?

With 5 guards the security fee +GST about RM31K+ compare to RM18.6K for 3 guards per shift.

Even with 70% residents pay your collection is around RM23.7K as such you should either reduce the number of guards per shift or reduce the security fee per hour without compromise on safety.

Please note that only local or former Nepanese soldiers are valid security guard if Pakistani sure illegal.

even at daytime?  how large an area are they covering? many weak perimeter places to sneak in? if not too much i think 2 at the guardhouse and 1 patrol guy is enough...

Having 5 guards on a shift does not guarantee no house break in, but will make your RA having difficulty to maintain continuously.

With single entry/exit point, 26 acres and less than 200 household units, 3 guards on day time is sufficient, if required additional one guard station at night time for some specified period may be workable.

But first thing first, get the consent from local authorities ASAP.

Since developer want launch another phase it's gd time for residents to nego with developer to enhance the perimeter security like add on balb wire , laser beam and increase the fencing height then RA can reduce the guards then monthly can have extra fund .
Normally the residential with semi d and Banglo
6 feet Fencing and guards may not enough to stop crimes .
Esp the outer perimeter is forest .

For guard with valid permit for former Nepalese soldier I think RM8/h is acceptable

Are you from bsl 1?

As long as it is legal why not?

Understand that some Indian underground society has became security guard in some taman in BMC. Stay away from this organization.