Amprecious metals already +20%, thinking to sell tomorrow keep in CMF.
Any suggestion?
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Mar 15 2016, 01:31 AM
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Amprecious metals already +20%, thinking to sell tomorrow keep in CMF.
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Mar 15 2016, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(superb999 @ Mar 15 2016, 04:47 PM) QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 15 2016, 05:17 PM) that day i sold some at 0.3704, today sold another 25k units.cannot be greedy this time, lock in profit first. this Am Asia Pac equity income also can swing quite alot. that day so cheap, now up almost 10% already in 2 months. no body can predict, ada untung sell. |
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Mar 24 2016, 09:55 PM
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Mar 25 2016, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Mar 24 2016, 10:00 PM) The answer is in the "locked profit".Yes, no way you can have positive IRR if total investment showed a nett loss. My IRR was positive becos i had sold and locked in some 28k profit earlier, more than enough to cover the 10k loss on 29.2.2016 It really puzzles me how you could be enlightened by Lukenn's example. QUOTE(lukenn @ Mar 24 2016, 10:01 PM) True, but the long and short of that is:overalll there must be a profit, otherwise IRR cannot be positive. QUOTE(lukenn @ Mar 24 2016, 10:53 PM) I'm not sure if this is the correct explanation : This is a poor example to explain a negative portfolio with positive IRR.01/01/14 - unit price = RM1.00 Purchase 10 units Cost RM10 31/12/14 - unit price = RM2.00 Purchase 10000 units Total Units 10010 units Cost RM20,000 Total Cost RM20,010 01/01/14 - unit price = RM1.90 Redeem 10010 units Redemption Value 19,019 Where fund NAV has gone up, but investment value has gone down. In your example the IRR CANNOT be positive, unless with locked profit ealier. Invested amount totalled RM20010, and current value only RM19019, IRR sure negative. NB: If you go to FSM "MY INVESTMENT" then "Analyse my porfolio", there u can see your exact amount of overall profit or loss. see attachment. And i find that figure closely mirrors Polarbearz's Portfolio Summary Profit/Loss. If you buy and sell, buy and sell, you cannot use the current FSM holdings' profit or loss, as it does not take into consideration ealier transactions' gain or loss. |
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Apr 25 2016, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Apr 25 2016, 06:14 PM) RHB Global Equity Yield Fund, not popular anymore Gosh you guys are selling? I'm holding a lot of cash, like 20% over the portfolio... now IRR lagging because of that i just whacked 10k GTitans today since my Gtitans has been in red(-9.9%) Got balance 17k 0% fee quota to go, any suggestion what is good to pick up? RHB GEY was high last year >0.52.........,but mine is still +6.3% , advisable to sell and run?? thanks. |
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Apr 25 2016, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 25 2016, 10:58 PM) all comments welcomed. actually me no real investor, the way i did it is more like main tikam tikam. |
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Apr 26 2016, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 25 2016, 11:19 PM) wow...that is some serious money you got there..... Thanks, FSM CIS gave very general/std advice, not much use.may I suggest you use the Polarzbearz worksheet, downloadable from page # 1 read and understand how to use it.... after you had keyed in the required info.... wah-lah...a great view to see how your countries/region of allocation are. from your current FSM a/c view...now much details of how and where yr money goes... need to some calculation and reading of each fund fact sheet to see how it goes.... with that money....try talk to FSM CIS? I have Polarbearz's spreadsheet, but only "investment Details" and "Portfolio Snapshot" is working, i mean can see my UT there updating correctly(see attachment) But when i click on "Portfolio Summary" , "Fund Snapshot", "Fund Allocation", they dont show my UT correctly. How to make the "Fund snapshot", "fund allocation" work?. (see attachment-totally different UTs there) (see attachment- instruction says- carefully copy the table structure and insert the copied cells.................and "update portfolio's details according to fact sheet." where to get that "table structure", and how to "update portfolio's details according to fact sheet."? Thanks QUOTE(dasecret @ Apr 26 2016, 09:38 AM) Oops, not my intention to cause panic here. I've held GEYF for a while and its performance is just lackluster. So wanted to jump ship and put it into GTF la. Not exiting yet. But this RHB switching charges is quite annoying No worry, if u are jumping to GTF, that's reassuring enuff.I can see you guys use a lot of formula/research to decide. so follow u guys should be quite safe right? QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 26 2016, 04:21 PM) Macam mana ni? Buy equity fund. Die. Buy bond fund. Die. I know, I know. We all buy ASM ok? Seriously , ASX is easier to play, buy and collect dividends, unlike UTs.I got Libra Asnita Bond Fund and Eaststpring Bond Fund in my portfolio already. Looking for other exotic bond funds. must buy more, sell ,switch this and that. |
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May 31 2016, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 30 2016, 10:01 PM) got this from the email.... This is interesting but quite troublesome for me to key in UT 1 by 1 and enter the % allocation.Dear valued investors, I would like to introduce you a very useful tool in FSM - Portfolio Simulator. The portfolio simulator is a tool that allows you to simulate the performance of the portfolio based on different back test period. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Regards, Also problem for those who have more than 15 funds, not enuff slots. Anyone knows of any shortcut way, like using UTs shown in our FSM portfolio and somehow copy/paste or translocate them all to the FSM simulator?? |
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Jun 3 2016, 09:39 PM
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Yes market is coming back, portfolio value keep going up.
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Jun 13 2016, 01:40 PM
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good time to buy?
just bought CIMB G titans and Kenanga Growth Fund, today's closing price expected to be ?down. |
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Jul 6 2016, 06:52 PM
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Am precious metal really keng up and up after i sold .
AmCommodities pulak useless, up 2 days down 3 days,...sigh. |
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Jul 15 2016, 01:39 PM
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Portfolio ROI and IRR up already, 18.25% and 6.5%.
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Aug 11 2016, 01:59 PM
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market up abit, thinking of selling some , later mart down buy back.
any suggestions which to sell to lock in the profit? |
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Aug 11 2016, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 11 2016, 02:07 PM) got some la, i see u very good at shares, share some tips la if buying .must follow what you buy next. QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 11 2016, 02:21 PM) wanna use this for guide? i dont know how to use that, better follow you guys who have done alot of calculations, research etc..STAR RATINGS FOR THE VARIOUS MARKETS https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...tarRatings.svdo QUOTE(dasecret @ Aug 11 2016, 03:06 PM) Don't have information on IRR is quite hard to make good decisions. thanks, i am keeping your views in mind.. the 3 Ut u singled out for sale.So the comment below is strictly on personal preference of the funds I would dump the following funds (and probably never to buy them again) - Affin Hwang Asia Opportunity fund - switch to ponzi 1.0 - EI global emerging markets - highly correlated to asia pac equity funds and forever lagging - Pacific Global Stars - dumped this long time ago, performance even worse than GEYF If you are a 100% equity funds person, may as well just sell RHB asian total returns, it's kind of moving side ways these days attached is the IRR table from polarsbearz's But if i look at the IRR in there, the Affin Hwang Asia opportunity is 7.64%, is this not good? Pacific Globar star IRR also 6.25% Eastspring Investment Global emerging market IRR 19.17%!, now i really dont know how useful is this IRR .... ( i have bought and sold and bought back those UTs) But if look at virgin UTs in my portfolio, the ones i bought once, never sell yet and no re-buy. RHB Asian Total returns IRR 2.06% Eastspring Investment Asia Pac Ex japan target IRR 2.66% Am i right to conclude they are not productive? better sell off.. thanks |
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Aug 14 2016, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Aug 11 2016, 10:53 PM) The IRR information is a lot more meaningful and I agree with ur conclusion to dump that 2 funds with low IRR while you can thanks for the comment. may be switch from opportunity to quantum fund. CIMB dynamic income and asia Pac equity income still good to keep. amcommodities is the worst, never make money from D1.I noticed you have the same funds that u put in both inactive and current holding. What I would do is as long as I still hold those funds, I'd put them all in active so that I can calculate the effective IRR for that fund. Kinda help to monitor if overtime u end up buying high n selling low also In terms of diworsification that we spoke lately, you do have a lot of funds for a single segment. Consider to consolidate them, that for each segment you only put in 1 or 2 strongest performance funds. I'm guilty of that too actually I would use chart center function and put all those funds in the same segment n compare their performance for mid-long term to decide which one to go for. IRR very much depends on your entry price but there may be better performance funds in the same segment Edit: On laptop can show you the chart centre graph [attachmentid=7305624] Since you held most of the funds for quite a while, I used 5 years annualised for a comparison. Remember I say I don't like EI global emerging market fund? Look at the annualised return, only 6% compared to the rest mostly double digit returns. As to HSAO, it's a lot less than ponzi1.0. I was cursing AmAsiaPac Eqt income earlier, but recently it's regaining lost grounds, so I'm playing 'wait and see' for now You should do the same for your global and local funds to help you decide what to keep n what to dump |
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Aug 24 2016, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 24 2016, 11:08 AM) As a person who works with sick people I can vouch for this. if you are a doctor, you should be more compassionate.not so judgmental, like you know it all,I give free of charge consults and public health screenings they say this is a trap to get them to pay. Then when their daughters or son or themselves have scoliosis or disc prolapse they say I wanna seek this second opinion, can I not do MRI because so expensive and what not. In the end their indecisiveness causes their conditions to worsen. Then there are those who listen to the market aunties that sell amway products that can cure scoliosis and back pain and it's like 300rm per bottle compared to the 15k fully researched treatments for back pain or scoliosis. These people don't go far in life and will always wait and wait for the golden Apple to fall in their hands. Also these are the same people who always fall in the traps of ponzi and mlm scams. unwilling to find out why they did that. the way you condemn them ........dont go far.....will fall........ QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 24 2016, 10:00 PM) Your attitude shows here again....... implying how can a kiddy PoGo gameteach anything useful to investment??? Go read that article first |
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Aug 24 2016, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 24 2016, 11:02 PM) Try working for 8 years in the business and you know the 11 year old kid has 50 years of having a steel rod doing inside her or worst having the worst scoliosis at 60 degrees and daddy doesn't wanna pay because he says government sector can do while you look at their family history of heading to holidays and holding a spanking Samsung edge 7 and you come back to me saying I do not understand them. if you have the patient's interest at heart and not your own pocket first, there is no reason to get angry when people wanna go government hospital for cheaper treatment. Private or government as long as the person gets cured, you should feel happy.And about the PoGo it's a jest between me and the poster so bugger off if you aren't included in the conversation Unless you think government Dr cannot cure her, only you can...... You should reflect why you are unable to convince them to be treated by you instead.. probing where people go for holiday helps in your treatment? LOL. typical young arogant ortopod, only 8 years in business already like that......... and be reminded anything you post here is public, not your private room, so dont embarass yourself further. |
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