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post Mar 17 2016, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 17 2016, 11:15 AM)
anyone else top up / buy ?
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no, waiting to see the effect of Fed's decision. Indon just cut rates oso, hopefully more fund inflow into malaysia. Still learning this stuff and suppress my risk appetite lol. But whoever bought gold/precious metal 1-2 days before the fed decision, should be really happy right now lol
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post Mar 19 2016, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Mar 19 2016, 05:40 AM)
all the markets seem up and up
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Spoke to Hong Leong and CIMB people yesterday, both believes the stock market will be positive this year. But then again, they're sell-side salespeople...

Personally, I think China will continue to weigh down on the rest of the world. I could be wrong though, anything can happen
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post Mar 20 2016, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 20 2016, 02:18 AM)
hmm.gif when and if the time comes,...I may have to take the service of a wealth planner...... thumbsup.gif
FSM does not provide personal service.

btw,...that article is a guide about how to construct a portfolio......not about them providing wealth planning service  biggrin.gif
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how much do wealth planners charge?
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post Mar 20 2016, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Mar 20 2016, 03:55 AM)
Private banking usually provides this service, but
1. recommendations may be biased,
2. choices of funds are limited.

You can avoid these issues by using an independent planner, but it may cost more.
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Thanks for the reply. Right now I'm working in an investment firm, if I retire early I plan to become an independent wealth planner tongue.gif
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post Mar 20 2016, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 20 2016, 04:53 AM)
read from some postings many months back....
I may be wrong in this....
looks like they will charge between "Free to 2%" for initial investment amount
then annually between "0.5% to 1%" of total value under mgmt.
the more money with them...the less % they will charge.
not known what is the min amount they will take...
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wealth planners manage money for client? i thought wealth planners give advice only.. confused.gif
so is wealth planner the same as fund manager?
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post Mar 20 2016, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 20 2016, 06:23 AM)
Let me indulge you with my analogy:

Lets take an example of a Production Pharmacist working at Pharmaniaga producing a gastric tablet from the factory floor. He produces the finished goods from a collection of raw material.

Similarly a Fund Manager works in a Unit Trust Management Company (Fund House e.g., Public Mutual) to produce a fund. He produce the fund by buying into a series of stocks from the stock exchange.

Lets take an example of a Retail Pharmacist working for Caring Pharmacy selling the gastric tablet to you. He sells that tablet after listening to your medical problem and select the best available solution from his pharmacy.

Similarly a Wealth Manager aka Licensed Financial Planner works at a Licensed Financial Planning Firm. He selects the registered financial product to match your needs after hearing your financial matters and circumstances.

Xuzen
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 20 2016, 06:27 AM)
Make sure you have the right licensed. Independent wealth planner (actually the proper term is Licensed Financial Planner) is a regulated activity and you need to get the relevant licensed from BNM and SC.

Xuzen
That, more or less is what I actually understand about wealth planners/financial advisors, its just that a previous post kinda got me confused between advisory fee and fund management fee. Thanks for the explanation!



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post Mar 20 2016, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 20 2016, 07:09 AM)
hmm.gif what is the confusion?
Financial planner/wealth planner will not charge advisory fees and annual AUM fees?
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I dont know, apparently some do and some dont charge advisory fees(based on what ppl say in previous posts).
It depends on what we understand about wealth planners/financial planner.

I view them as separate from fund managers. Thus, having said that, I guess it is to my understanding that a financial planner imposes advisory fee (they don't charge AUM fees as they don't take clients' money and invest for them) while a fund manager imposes AUM fee (take their money and invest for them).

Is this correct? hmm.gif
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post Mar 20 2016, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 20 2016, 07:38 AM)
hmm.gif this advisory fees is based on a % of money being monitored by the advisor? or based on flat rate?
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Dunno. Thats the question I actually asked, if you read one of my previous posts (#70).

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post Mar 21 2016, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Mar 20 2016, 02:20 PM)
Clients can be charged either sales charges, wrap/advisory or combination of the 2.

Sales charges are paid up front, and can be as high as 5.5%, depending on the fund and advisor. Switching and rebalancing will incur additional charges.

This is good for clients who strategy is buy and hold.

Wrap/advisory fees are charged based on the AUM. This is usually 1.5% annually. Fees are calculate and charged monthly. Switching and rebalancing, even between different fund houses, are free.

This is good for clients who switch often or run complicated strategies. Also, this puts the advisor and client interest aligned, and the advisor is incentivised to continue servicing the client.

Portfolio creation is charged separately, up RM1500, depending on complexity and requirements. Clients paying this fee have the right do their transactions elsewhere as the advice should be unbiased.

Hope this clarifies the situation.
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Heyyy thanks for the explanation! notworthy.gif
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post Jun 25 2016, 07:10 AM

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Bought AmPrecious Metals before Brexit, thinking that even if Britain remains, the global sentiment will revert back to "global growth slowdown". You know, all that China-debt fuelled growth plus weaker than expected US economic data. Then Brexit happened. Things unexpectedly went my way. Now I have to think when to sell AmPrecious.

Now that Brexit is set to happen, there's also the risk that other parties in the EU might also seek their own version of exits, and Scotland is likely to seek to leave UK to pursue its own membership in the EU. Thoughts?
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post Jun 25 2016, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 25 2016, 01:59 AM)
amprecious metal...NOT my cup of tea  biggrin.gif
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Haha that one picture can explain lots of things and provide different perspectives.. whats your angle?
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post Jun 25 2016, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 25 2016, 02:15 AM)
both long term and short terms....
long term...not a trend liked for a long term investor....
short term....it is already jumped up 70% since 22 Jan 2016 till 23 June 2016...
will it go up?...yes... I think but only short term...just like what I think will happens to the stock markets.....they call it knee jerk reactions.
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I also don't plan to hold on to it for long.. It's just that I think that its a waste if I don't take advantage of it if I think its going to perform, even in the short term.. I only put about 17% of my asset in it. The rest is in bonds. I'm comfortable with the current risk profile. Not much great news for gold to go down from now on. I'm thinking that the potential for upside is greater than downside.
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post Jun 25 2016, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 25 2016, 03:07 AM)
good option....17% in am precious : 83% in Bond....(80% defenders 20% attacking commandos)

but some people would say t is a waste of opportunity, for not taking FULL opportunity if one were to know that the potential outcome for upside is greater than downside
with just 17%...if the ROI is 10% up...it just add 1.7%  in the ROI of the portfolio  biggrin.gif
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haha you're actually right! I just started investing money, so my risk appetite isn't there yet. I'm still young and just started working, maybe I should've taken more risk hmm.gif
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post Jun 26 2016, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 26 2016, 12:36 AM)
What bond funds are u into?
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I have RHB Islamic and Libra Asnita.

Disclaimer: I only invest in Shariah compliant fund
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post Aug 10 2016, 05:58 PM

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Just got back from Prof Aswath Damodaran seminar..

One interesting quote from him:

"Story drives value"


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post Aug 10 2016, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 10 2016, 10:00 AM)
Just hope that my FMs did nit falls for that.
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Haha, if you look at it on the surface, its kinda true. Look at gold. It flew for freaking 6-7 months because of "stories".

But in Prof's case, he mentioned that the stories must be reflected in numbers. Because then stories would stay stories, without any meaningful value added to a company's intrinsic value.

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post Aug 10 2016, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 10 2016, 10:11 AM)
Yeaah....just like the stories of skim cepat kaya....
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Haha, that would be different kind of stories. Belong in the fiction part of a bookstore.
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post Aug 10 2016, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 10 2016, 10:25 AM)
Yes...and many people are still buying and seeking to buy that "storybook" daily.
Like i said...hope that my FMs don't but keep selling it
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Thats why our FMs must differentiate between real stories and fiction.. laugh.gif
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post Aug 10 2016, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 10 2016, 10:32 AM)
Some are mandated by the funds. .he got no choice....ex...during y2k...tech stocks are too high valued....fm of tech funds hv to keep on investing...till it burst.......
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For tech-themed unit trusts then, thats true. Hence the selection of stories then fall unto us. Would we hear stories then invest into tech unit trusts then, or run far far away from the sector and invest in other sectors/asset class? devil.gif
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post Aug 10 2016, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 10 2016, 10:43 AM)
During that time...most other asset class also kena....dotcom, lehnan, asian f crisis., etc...risk is alway there....we just don't know when it will strike....if you stayed too long on the side lines.....one may not make much....
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Wasn't in the market when it happened. Bonds (ex-tech bonds) also kena during dotcom?

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