Fundsupermart.com v14, Happy 牛(bull!) Year
Fundsupermart.com v14, Happy 牛(bull!) Year
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Jul 14 2016, 11:58 AM
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With OPR cut, expect CMF yield to drop to around 3.3%
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Jul 16 2016, 04:08 PM
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IMHO for white collar workers at executive level and above, if you don't touch your EPF til retirement, you should be able to retire "comfortably".
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Jul 22 2016, 02:06 PM
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Jul 22 2016, 02:15 PM
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Jul 22 2016, 09:08 PM
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Generally I take this as a rule of thumb -
When my portfolio's 12-months return > my portfolio's long-term IRR, it's too late to top up. It happened now 12-m return: +6.32% Long-term IRR: +6.22% |
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Jul 22 2016, 09:26 PM
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Jul 22 2016, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jul 22 2016, 09:44 PM) wanna ask any safeguard measures lets say if u transfer the amount to fundsupermart and it somehow didnt go through to fsm, will it automatically be credited back to our account? How could that happen?If by FPX, it's almost fool-proof, unless FPX IT system fail disastrously. If by GIRO/RENTAS transfer, how can that happen? Unless u gave your bank wrong bank details. |
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Jul 22 2016, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jul 22 2016, 10:43 PM) Dunno what if its the fundsupermart side problem like server down n so on. Coz j never checked after transferring This is a banking question...If the money has already left your account, and it doesn't reach the intended recipient, it's the bank/intermediary (e.g. FPX) problem, not the recipient's problem. Bro, shoot the right person. U can rest assured that so far I've not have any problem with FSM. Yeah I track each and every single transaction on my spreadsheet from day 1 until now. This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jul 22 2016, 10:53 PM |
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Jul 23 2016, 11:41 AM
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Jul 23 2016, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jul 23 2016, 01:12 PM) Ini...basic matematik + MS Excel la! I show u my 3-m return calculation, let's say we take Jan to Mar 2016: Portfolio VALUE at 01 Jan 2016: 50,000 Portfolio VALUE at 31 Mar 2016: 60,000 VALUE here means cost + accumulated profits/(losses) Let's say I put in additional investments as follows: Jan 2016: 1,000 Feb 2016: 2,000 Mar 2016: 1,000 The calculation: Total profit/(loss) for the 3 months: 60,000 - (50,000 + 1,000 + 2,000 + 1,000) = 6,000 The formula: 6,000 / (50,000 + 1,000 x 2.5/3 + 2,000 x 1.5/3 + 1,000 x 0.5/3) = 11.54% This is my 3-m return, it's NOT annualised. I'm making some assumptions here for simplicity sake: - all additional investments/(withdrawals) are made in middle of the month - hence, 1,000 invested in Jan 2016 has 2.5 months' time to "work", 2,000 has 1.5 month's time to "work", and so on Or u can use this simpler formula: 6,000 / (50,000 + (1,000 + 2,000 + 1,000)/2) = 11.54% When u have complicated cash flows i.e. irregular pattern of top ups and withdrawals, the first formula produces a more accurate result. Use this and improvise to create your own 1-m, 3-m, 12-m returns calculations QUOTE(river.sand @ Jul 23 2016, 01:14 PM) Just scroll to bottom of the screen and change to desktop mode lo This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jul 23 2016, 01:54 PM |
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Jul 23 2016, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jul 23 2016, 03:40 PM) Can...but can u design a spreadsheet to do so? If u saw my worksheet before... Fund A Date Date Date Fund B Date Date Date Can you design a XIRR worksheet to take 1. Opening fund values at beginning of the 12-m period 2. Ignore all pre-period transactions Boleh? I don't wanna damage my brain doing this |
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Jul 24 2016, 10:01 PM
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Jul 25 2016, 10:21 AM
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Kim Yee punya balls are nicer lar
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Jul 26 2016, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(innsean @ Jul 26 2016, 07:51 AM) In my opinion, Bonds are slow as f*** not worth the diversification. Yes, diversification is important but there is also over diversification and balance is key. Again, everybody is different and there is no right or wrong. One will have to experiment and get burn to find what works My 2 bond funds' IRR beat those of my equity funds. |
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Jul 26 2016, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jul 26 2016, 04:46 PM) Don't just look at fund vs index. Indexes are not created equal. ^For example, KLCI is made up of 30 largest counters in Bursa. Large companies usually don't grow fast. Dividends may be good, but these are not taken into account. So, beating KLCI is easy. Pinky and I did just that. Similarly, beating DJIA is easy. But outperforming S&P 500 is tougher. This Before u ask the question of whether your fund is beating it's benchmark/index, ask yourself - DO YOU HAVE (A CONVENIENT/AFFORDABLE) ACCESS TO THE BENCHMARK/INDEX? If no, as long as your fund beats it's peers and delivers returns acceptable to you, then it is a good fund. Yeah, in a hindsight, I could have dumped my UT portfolio and deployed all the money to wonderful effect in my stocks portfolio, but there are also times when my stocks kaboom-ed and my (mainly foreign-exposed) UTs cushioned the effect on my overall investment portfolio. Yeah, overall IRR-wise, my stocks portfolio still wins hands down (21% vs 6.4%). But hey, I manage my stocks portfolio quite actively, while I largely leave my UTs on autopilot. And the "cushioning" effect of some diversification gives me peace of mind. This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jul 26 2016, 10:46 PM |
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Jul 29 2016, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jul 29 2016, 02:53 PM) okay, this is out of topic, and a thought to share with you guys who are all familar with IRR and what it means... IRR is good, yes. But have you factored in risk? This news on how lucrative the Ah Longs business are... http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016...-in-their-debt/ "... at interest rates of 0.5-1% per day which works up to 15% to 30% monthly." Let's think out of the box here... this is good business as there is a market... which should attract new entrants. More entrants => more competition => consumer gets better services at better rates. ===> BNM should allow more money lending licenses to more new entrants into this lucrative industry. How lucractive is it, even if giving a very reasonable deal to the borrower? Let's say the offer is: a) consumer borrows RM5000. b) pays back 10% each month. c) pays back in 12 months. d) based on flat rate of 18% per annum. e) 5000 x 118% / 12 months = RM491.70/mth. Sales pitch: "Borrow RM5000. Pays back RM500 per month." This is how it looks if put into Excel... (RM100 deducted from the loan money as admin charges, and monthly payment rounded to RM500 to includes service and admin fees.) 01-01-2016 -4900 31-01-2016 500 29-02-2016 500 31-03-2016 500 30-04-2016 500 31-05-2016 500 30-06-2016 500 31-07-2016 500 31-08-2016 500 30-09-2016 500 31-10-2016 500 30-11-2016 500 31-12-2016 500 And the IRR is 47.3%. This is better than the returns from UT, no? Crowd funding to be money-lender.... in b4 kalau tak mampu bayar, hire killer and headshot the borrower's wife je |
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Jul 30 2016, 09:35 AM
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Jul 30 2016, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(em0kia @ Jul 30 2016, 02:44 AM) Are the "" meant to mean the opposite way? Cuz I dont see how EPF is going to support us for a few decades. Ps. Sorry for bringing back old post. I am reading the entire v14 to learn about FSM before buying funds lol QUOTE(lukenn @ Jul 30 2016, 03:48 AM) I'm guessing the tone was somewhat sarcastic, as the numbers are for a nationwide median. Meaning if you don't mind moving to a small town, you'll probably survive. If your in a major city, you're probably SOL. No sarcasm intended.Don't need small town, even suburban KL, where u still have old school kopitiam and roadside mamaks, I can survive quite comfortably on RM2,000 a month (if single with no children),. |
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Jul 30 2016, 09:50 AM
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Aug 1 2016, 05:30 PM
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What did i miss? Global Titans and GEYF on approved EPF list???
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