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post Mar 11 2016, 10:59 AM, updated 5y ago

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http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016...rking-stickers/

The Star
Friday, 11 March 2016
Parking space for OKU taken up by drivers with fake parking stickers
by rahimy rahim and nathaniel sario

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PETALING JAYA: Disabled motorists are facing a hard time finding parking space following the sale of fake disabled parking stickers.

Members of the Damai Disabled Person Association had complained of such cases in several places across Kuala Lumpur and the Klang Valley, especially at shopping malls and commercial areas.

The fake OKU stickers are being sold openly at several hardware shops for between RM7 and RM20.

Damai Disabled Person Associa­tion Malaysia president V. Muruges­waran said drivers with disabilities could only obtain the authentic stickers from the Road Transport Department (RTD) after getting their condition assessed.

“We are sad that there is also lack of enforcement by the local authorities. It seems that the irresponsible drivers are not worried about being fined,” he said.

Apart from stricter enforcement, he also urged local authorities to introduce higher penalties to deter unregistered vehicles from parking at areas reserved for people with disabilities.

“We hope the authorities can also consider introducing a system similar in Germany or other countries where a machine will be able to send photos of vehicles without proper stickers immediately to the police or the local authorities,” he said.

Meanwhile, a check at hardware stores around here showed a few were selling OKU stickers to the public, when only the RTD is autho­rised to issue these.

A shopkeeper at a do-it-yourself store in Bangsar said it had a variety of OKU parking stickers available for sale.

“We sell them for about RM10 to RM20,” said the shopkeeper, adding that people could just walk in to buy the stickers.

H.C. Chan, who is the chief executive officer of Sunway Shopping Malls and adviser of the Malaysian Shopping Mall Association, said the use of OKU parking stickers was based on the trust system.

“If the sticker is seen, there is little that can be done. But if guards see a healthy person parking in the OKU space, they will take action,” he said.

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post Mar 11 2016, 11:02 AM

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Normally i will scratch the cars who park in OKU but driver not OKU.
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in penang, parked in oku space, lge will cum and tow away
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:04 AM

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if it is fake but the driver is real OKU how?
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:05 AM

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Superglue 9 the oku sticker on their windscreen
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:07 AM

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who the hell can tell which is the official one
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:08 AM

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post Mar 11 2016, 11:11 AM

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my suggestion if found guilty,

we bring the "OKU" person to the street and make it real for them. so they can continue using the fake sticker for good
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sometime we see that person looks normal. but we dunno he is OKU or not.

So, better ask them show the OKU id card.
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:12 AM

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sticker only pun mau kacau?
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:12 AM

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Wtf.. OKU sticker also wanna fake.
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Mar 11 2016, 11:12 AM)
Wtf.. OKU sticker also wanna fake.
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rm20 for extra parking for life, who dun want?
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:16 AM

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Normally drive car Jump Q considered smart himself and laugh at ppl bodoness.

Parking go against the traffic direction and steal ppl parking spot, now advance new level, masuk mall sekejap found parking right in front of entrance and laugh at ppl bodoness
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:16 AM

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sometimes people take opportunity family member oku

driver healthy, passenger oku, ok can park at oku spot
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:19 AM

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every time i go tesco also i see sohai non OKU parked in OKU parking.
and sohai foreveralone parked in family parking.

malaysia memang manyak OKU = otak kurang upaya
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Why even bother with the sticker when you can just print out the logo and put on the dashboard lol
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:24 AM

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tak payah sticker palsu pon orang parking jugak lol

#mentaliti_malaysia
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I always park in OKU section, so much waste of space.


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i think authority need change the sticker with some hologram? to show is genuine sticker from authority
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:34 AM

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otak oku
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post Mar 11 2016, 11:37 AM

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thx for showing the real one. now we go make fakes of the real one
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To me, if you have the sticker (fake or not), then I don't care. It's between you and your conscience.
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Some people doesn't realised that OKU parking space is for OKU driver. Not you non OKU people bring the OKU people and park at the OKU parking space

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post Mar 11 2016, 11:45 AM

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Dont blame those able bodied ppl who bought fake stickers

They memang cacat somewhere. Their brain cacat
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The sticker should put in NFC/ or copper wire integration.

Those Sohai who park OKU with fake sticker tow straight
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What's the definition of "kurang upaya" that entitles parking at OKU spot?

if driver is old or is ill does that suffice?

After all the term is "kurang upaya" not "cacat" .

And after all the huffing n puffing here, is there a law or by-law that forbids non-kurang upaya pax from parking in OKU spots?


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QUOTE(xpole @ Mar 11 2016, 11:45 AM)
Some people doesn't realised that OKU parking space is for OKU driver. Not you non OKU people bring the OKU people and park at the OKU parking space
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Not true!

There r ppl in wheelchairs who need others to drive them.

Normal parking spots do not hv enuf space between them to accommodate wheelchairs hence the able-bodied driver has to park at the wider OKU spot.
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does pregnant moms considered as oku too?
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so the real sticker cannot fake?
the should put hologram
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QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Mar 11 2016, 11:52 AM)
Not true!

There r ppl in wheelchairs who need others to drive them.

Normal parking spots do not hv enuf space between them to accommodate wheelchairs hence the able-bodied driver has to park at the wider OKU spot.
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Nope.

If you need to unload people in wheelchair, then do it in the lobby or any available space then go Park at normal place. OKU parking is only for OKU drivers.
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QUOTE(drowning @ Mar 11 2016, 11:58 AM)
Nope.

If you need to unload people in wheelchair,  then do it in the lobby or any available space then go Park at normal place. OKU parking is only for OKU drivers.
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Hmmm... good point.

But I've seen many with wheelchair passengers park in OKU spots w/o issue.

I wonder which is correct.
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no brain that's why become OKU ?
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QUOTE(drowning @ Mar 11 2016, 11:58 AM)
Nope.

If you need to unload people in wheelchair,  then do it in the lobby or any available space then go Park at normal place. OKU parking is only for OKU drivers.
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have you ever dealt with OKU passengers before? it isn't as easy as how you described it.
assume you went to a mall or something, you can't just stop in a middle of the parking driveway to drop someone.
or maybe someone with mental disability, you can't leave him unattended for more than few minutes in fear he'll go wander around dangerously.

thats just a couple out of the thousands example out there.
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QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Mar 11 2016, 11:52 AM)
Not true!

There r ppl in wheelchairs who need others to drive them.

Normal parking spots do not hv enuf space between them to accommodate wheelchairs hence the able-bodied driver has to park at the wider OKU spot.
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QUOTE(luxollidd @ Mar 11 2016, 12:04 PM)
have you ever dealt with OKU passengers before? it isn't as easy as how you described it.
assume you went to a mall or something, you can't just stop in a middle of the parking driveway to drop someone.
or maybe someone with mental disability, you can't leave him unattended for more than few minutes in fear he'll go wander around dangerously.

thats just a couple out of the thousands example out there.
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Agree with you. Hence, most of the places they will allow those driver with OKU passenger to park at those parking space to enable them to take out the wheelchair etc.

If do it in front of the mall or lobby etc, it will cause congestion unless u are super fast and the passenger get out from the car quickly.
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it is not a sticker issue
it is a mentality issue

if real oku use fake sticker kenot park?

logic?
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QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Mar 11 2016, 11:52 AM)
Not true!

There r ppl in wheelchairs who need others to drive them.

Normal parking spots do not hv enuf space between them to accommodate wheelchairs hence the able-bodied driver has to park at the wider OKU spot.
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You can drop them at the lobby fyi. then u find the parking space. The oku parking are specifically for OKU people that drive. I repeat, they are the one that drive
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QUOTE(xpole @ Mar 11 2016, 12:29 PM)
You can drop them at the lobby fyi. then u find the parking space. The oku parking are specifically for OKU people that drive. I repeat, they are the one that drive
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Seems right. From -

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...abled-benefits/
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QUOTE(Fzeo @ Mar 11 2016, 11:11 AM)
sometime we see that person looks normal. but we dunno he is OKU or not.

So, better ask them show the OKU id card.
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so, we malaysians has now become part-time OKU parking enforcement?
you dont have anything better to do? like some charity work?
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QUOTE(drowning @ Mar 11 2016, 11:02 AM)
Normally i will scratch the cars who park in OKU but driver not OKU.
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OKU is not only missing legs or arms.
sight or cognitive impairment included.
and there is no 100% way to visually identify an OKU, that why JPJ will need a card which is issued after medical checks and expert medical recommendation.

So, ugly fat people is not OKU!

only way to be sure if the OKU person shows you a genuine OKU card.

*apparently, you have been scratching all the OKU people's cars... ya rabbi....
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this gone low enough

some vigilantism is needed
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QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Mar 11 2016, 12:02 PM)
Hmmm... good point.

But I've seen many with wheelchair passengers park in OKU spots w/o issue.

I wonder which is correct.
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OKU person banned from parking at non-OKU spots.
now, we need Non-OKU sticker with hologram to avoid OKU park at non-OKU spots.
or OKU people can only buy OKU car.

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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Mar 11 2016, 01:19 PM)
OKU is not only missing legs or arms.
sight or cognitive impairment included.
and there is no 100% way to visually identify an OKU, that why JPJ will need a card which is issued after medical checks and expert medical recommendation.

So, ugly fat people is not OKU!

only way to be sure if the OKU person shows you a genuine OKU card.

*apparently, you have been scratching all the OKU people's cars... ya rabbi....
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I will scratch if I see some able bodied people just go Park in oku space. Duh...
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QUOTE(luxollidd @ Mar 11 2016, 12:04 PM)
have you ever dealt with OKU passengers before? it isn't as easy as how you described it.
assume you went to a mall or something, you can't just stop in a middle of the parking driveway to drop someone.
or maybe someone with mental disability, you can't leave him unattended for more than few minutes in fear he'll go wander around dangerously.

thats just a couple out of the thousands example out there.
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There are many examples. But whenever possible the oku parking should only be reserved for oku drivers.
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Education is more important instead of just debating on the sticker. Gomen should educate like in tv and also focus on those learning schools on this matter. But of course there will be abusers and don't care attitude people.
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QUOTE(drowning @ Mar 11 2016, 01:23 PM)
I will scratch if I see some able bodied people just go Park in oku space. Duh...
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u just got a fetish of scratching people car, isnt it...
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QUOTE(drowning @ Mar 11 2016, 12:02 PM)
Normally i will scratch the cars who park in OKU but driver not OKU.
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U always lepak at parking garage? Waiting
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QUOTE(drowning @ Mar 11 2016, 11:02 AM)
Normally i will scratch the cars who park in OKU but driver not OKU.
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such a unethical and uneducated minded act. simply go scratch and damage other ppl car according his will without confronting the problem and finding out the truth. mad.gif

This type of person i hate and condemn it the most. bruce.gif


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I saw a picture one car full of OKU sticker go genting tougé
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QUOTE(fantasy_wow @ Mar 11 2016, 01:28 PM)
such a unethical and uneducated minded act. simply go scratch and damage other ppl car according his will without confronting the problem and finding out the truth.  mad.gif

This type of person i hate and condemn it the most.  bruce.gif
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he will also scratch OKU cars, parking at non-OKU spots.
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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Mar 11 2016, 01:34 PM)
he will also scratch OKU cars, parking at non-OKU spots.
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ya. the act of scratching ppl car was already a problem at first. OKU or not OKU is second matter thing.
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QUOTE(luxollidd @ Mar 11 2016, 11:54 AM)
does pregnant moms considered as oku too?
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mom with oku kid?
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Mar 11 2016, 01:21 PM)
this gone low enough

some vigilantism is needed
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QUOTE(ohtheirony @ Mar 11 2016, 11:16 AM)
sometimes people take opportunity family member oku

driver healthy, passenger oku, ok can park at oku spot
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What's the problem then? I always help drive my oku fren car and park at oku spot..he still need the extra space to disembark out of the car and then walk wimply to the entrance

One of his leg is prosthetics btw
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QUOTE(drowning @ Mar 11 2016, 11:58 AM)
Nope.

If you need to unload people in wheelchair,  then do it in the lobby or any available space then go Park at normal place. OKU parking is only for OKU drivers.
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for me if someone helping others got oku sticker i dont mind.
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Mar 11 2016, 12:37 PM)
This kinda stupid...some are paralysed in wheelchair and need close supervision so if the entrance doesn't have guard i need to leave the paralysed child alone unsupervised while I round and round finding parking for half an hour?
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QUOTE(xpole @ Mar 11 2016, 12:29 PM)
You can drop them at the lobby fyi. then u find the parking space. The oku parking are specifically for OKU people that drive. I repeat, they are the one that drive
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This kinda stupid...some are paralysed in wheelchair and need close supervision so if the entrance doesn't have guard i need to leave the paralysed child alone unsupervised while I round and round finding parking for half an hour?

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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Mar 11 2016, 02:03 PM)
mom with oku kid?
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nope

mom still is perfect human

if she occupied the place

then OKU driver (if alone) park mana?
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Mar 11 2016, 02:15 PM)
This kinda stupid...some are paralysed in wheelchair and need close supervision so if the entrance doesn't have guard i need to leave the paralysed child alone unsupervised while I round and round finding parking for half an hour?
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if u occupied the space

then if OKU driver drive that car alone ..then dia macam mana?
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Yeah, I think the rationale is that a handicapped driver would need a disabled parking lot more than a non-handicapped driver with a handicapped passenger.

Disabled parking lots are limited after all.


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4 pages and nobody summon pulautikus yet??
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Mar 11 2016, 02:32 PM)
4 pages and nobody summon pulautikus yet??
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I doubt he would show up.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Mar 11 2016, 02:29 PM)
if u occupied the space

then if OKU driver drive that car alone ..then dia macam mana?
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his fault for not coming earlier that the first guy.

First come first serve applies for OKU people also maa.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 11 2016, 02:36 PM)
his fault for not coming earlier that the first guy.

First come first serve applies for OKU people also maa.
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OKU driver and OKU passenger are not the same
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QUOTE(drowning @ Mar 11 2016, 01:23 PM)
I will scratch if I see some able bodied people just go Park in oku space. Duh...
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i wonder if you scratch that car and that owner show his OKU card what will you do? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Mar 11 2016, 12:52 PM)
so, we malaysians has now become part-time OKU parking enforcement?
you dont have anything better to do? like some charity work?
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u r not OKU yet sir?
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QUOTE(003 @ Mar 11 2016, 11:20 AM)
OKU i thought is Orang Kuat UMNO
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that is true also
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QUOTE(Fzeo @ Mar 11 2016, 11:11 AM)
sometime we see that person looks normal. but we dunno he is OKU or not.

So, better ask them show the OKU id card.
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it's like asking Malaysian chinese if they got my card,cause you think that person look like prc it's insulting to them to have to show their cards just to gain respect
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QUOTE(IMORTALfatahL2401 @ Mar 11 2016, 05:32 PM)
it's like asking Malaysian chinese if they got my card,cause you think that person look like prc it's insulting to them to have to show their cards just to gain respect
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some mall got security checking at OKU & ladies parking.

They asking for 1.


well, if got that id, can get up to 50% discount at certain mall/places/items.
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post Mar 11 2016, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(IMORTALfatahL2401 @ Mar 11 2016, 05:32 PM)
it's like asking Malaysian chinese if they got my card,cause you think that person look like prc it's insulting to them to have to show their cards just to gain respect
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I usually have no problem telling a Malaysian Chinese from a PRC. hmm.gif
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PULAU TIKUS IS BACK!!!

nao pay back to neilson!!!
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QUOTE(003 @ Mar 11 2016, 11:20 AM)
OKU i thought is Orang Kuat UMNO
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WAKAKAKAKKAKAKAKAKA


FARKING HILARIOUS! !!! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(IMORTALfatahL2401 @ Mar 11 2016, 05:32 PM)
it's like asking Malaysian chinese if they got my card,cause you think that person look like prc it's insulting to them to have to show their cards just to gain respect
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Same la.

I see banggalah also i dunno if they malaysian or not
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post Mar 11 2016, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Mar 11 2016, 05:44 PM)
I usually have no problem telling a Malaysian Chinese from a PRC.  hmm.gif
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I can't tell Indian India to Indian Malaysia but I can tell chinese Malaysian to prc, prc suck in English meanwhile chinese Malaysian decent in English
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otak OKU dah takleh nak buat apa2
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QUOTE(drowning @ Mar 11 2016, 11:02 AM)
Normally i will scratch the cars who park in OKU but driver not OKU.
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if you encounter arrogant selfish bastard driver like this W 92 J, what will you do?



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post Mar 11 2016, 07:06 PM

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Recent case in US.




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QUOTE(fantasy_wow @ Mar 11 2016, 01:28 PM)
such a unethical and uneducated minded act. simply go scratch and damage other ppl car according his will without confronting the problem and finding out the truth.  mad.gif

This type of person i hate and condemn it the most.  bruce.gif
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It's ok to hate me. Just like i hate able bodied people parking in OKU parking space.
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QUOTE(apisfires @ Mar 11 2016, 02:58 PM)
i wonder if you scratch that car and that owner show his OKU card what will you do?  hmm.gif
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Lol i wonder the same.
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Mar 11 2016, 05:44 PM)
I usually have no problem telling a Malaysian Chinese from a PRC.   hmm.gif
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for me, i cant tell malchi from prc until they open their mouth and speak malaysian english or bahasa Malaysia.
So, until they open their mouths, all cinaman is my countrymen.

but can immediately tell malmalay from indon. bruce.gif

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