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post Mar 10 2016, 09:12 PM, updated 10y ago

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Was dismantling a new Pensonic water heater, shocked by the quality inside. Happened to have a 7 yrs old Alpha with me so put them side by side for comparison, never expect such a big difference. Better use back my trusty Alpha.

Left is Alpha while right is Pensonic

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post Mar 10 2016, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Mar 10 2016, 10:17 PM)
How is the quality shock you? Is it the size or the number of components used?
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Water pressure for Pensonic is weak, just used it for shower awhile ago. Clearly Alpha had a better build in terms of safety, cover is tight and snug and of better quality. I've installed both of them today, the way wiring is sitting made a big difference, if water were to seep through the back opening where the wires enter, Pensonic will be the first to get it.

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post Mar 10 2016, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Richard @ Mar 10 2016, 11:05 PM)
probably left hand side looks like a blown transformer...

LHS the rcd (residual current device) shares the same pcb with the water flow switch, and led

RHS has the better design, rcd board is separate, led indicator pcb also separate all ok..

TS make sure you always test your rcd circuit to make sure no risk of electrocution..

if it doesn't trip then send that heater to replace the solid state relay where the Neutral and live wire goes before the heater elements..

test it often..  don't risk your safety..
I don't see a pump motor.. if there is an obvious difference in water pressure might be a stuck or sticking permanent magnet inside the entry pipe

it activates the reed switch which detects water flow which switches on the Solid State Relay to water heater element..

Joven shares similar design arrangements with the RHS heater (but with the snubber rc circuit installed, RHS missing next to push buttons)..

Less components cheaper build but hopefully doesn't actually mean lower quality..
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Wow...that's a lot of knowledge. Noted on rcd circuit test. Appreciate your input.

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post Mar 11 2016, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(Richard @ Mar 11 2016, 12:13 AM)
no problem..

RHS there's suppose to be a rubber grommet at your cable entry to prevent insects small lizards from getting inside and shorting out the live conductors.. place it back or just masking tape the opening for prevention..
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Rubber seal not available for Pensonic. Will put putting silicon to seal the wire entry and also possibly around edges of back plate. Thanks once again.

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post Mar 11 2016, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 11 2016, 08:05 AM)
why not use storage type?
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These heaters were provided by developer so cut the hassle of laying pipes. Heard storage system need to wait for water to heat up ya?

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post Mar 12 2016, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Mar 12 2016, 07:45 AM)
You should see Panasonic quality inside. No brand at its standard.
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Will try Panasonic after my Alpha expire. Lol

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post Mar 12 2016, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Mar 11 2016, 09:43 AM)
From the photo, the pensonic look like without a water pump, and circuit are simpler. Like Richard mention, the safety board are independent, which is good.
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Alpha also without pump. Anyway just a brief comparison, I don't have much knowledge in terms of indepth techincal stuff. Definitely learn quite a bit here. Thanks everyone

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post Mar 12 2016, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Mar 12 2016, 09:40 AM)
Both looks poorly constructed
open up a panasonic and you will be more relieved with the protection mechanism.

if you intend to use tank type, make sure make sure make sure you install additional elcb of 10mA non negotiable.
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You gave me the urge to disposed both and buy a Panasonic. I'm OCD when it comes to safety...lol


 

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