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antonio
post Apr 17 2016, 11:28 PM

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Hi clackers, you guys still here smile.gif

Today decided to some cleaning and i found my Poker 2 which is stored in a carry case. Its been 2 years since i use the Poker 2.

Just now when i try to use it, some keys are not responsive and some dont register at all...

So decided to open it up and see whats what.... i apply a 100 times clicking every keys and it seems that now it is a little better.

Do the contacts in the switches get oxidized or corrode if left no used for a ling time?


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post Apr 18 2016, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(justnits @ Apr 18 2016, 09:51 AM)
welcome back antonio!  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif

not too sure about the oxidized part, but i think i noticed a similar situation as you when i left my keyboard untouched for about half a year, 1 or 2 of my keys don't register properly or don't register at all.
i didn't bother to open them up, i just tapped at it very furiously since i was playing game and kept losing because of it lol! (it's using an old WYSE black switch.)
then i just left it to collect dust again and then picked it up to use again after i got new keycaps.
for some unknown reason, it works again.  rclxub.gif

i know the switch stem and the copper contact point tend to have slimy/greasy substance growing on it after a while as i have seen from most switches that i harvested from old boards.
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Yap... i guess the theory behind the contacts/keypresses wasn't registering properly might be the contacts in the switch has some dust or rust.

As i'm typing this and hammering most of the keys all nite since yesterday, i guess the responsiveness has come back....too responsive until some keys registers double and sometimes triple....

And affter like 6 hours of using the Poker 2 Red, i now remember why I kept it away last time....

IT DAMN LIGHT!!! I'm so useeedd to browns , Reds justs feel like typing on a ccake...

p/s: i purposely lefft the errors in spelling to show there are still some erratic on some of the switches.

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post Apr 18 2016, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(justnits @ Apr 18 2016, 11:27 AM)
double or triple register is not good >.<
i am surprised it happens to linear switches, i thought usually it happens to blue switches.

my guess is there's dirt inside interfering with the contact point, but if it's me, i'd just replace all the switch lol!
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its decreasing every minute... now feels like near to 99% without hiccups....

i think after all the typing now the contacts inside the switches are 'cleaned' due to the friction and hammering when using the keyboard.

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But the spring still fees sooooooo soft.... laugh.gif
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post Apr 18 2016, 12:02 PM

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Thinking of changing to a metal base since the plastic one isnt as sturdy n sounds hollow....


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post Apr 19 2016, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Apr 18 2016, 01:19 PM)
do you mean a metal case?
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Yap...metal or alu...as long as raises the height a bit and add some weight to it the ok already.

But I noticed there is like 2 type one which the pcb sits deeper and another one raises the PCB so the bottom section keycaps can be seen.

This is the 'Upskirt' type

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This sits flush

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post Apr 20 2016, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(Powet @ Apr 19 2016, 11:26 PM)
Shyt.. my MKB starts to suffer double-click issue... Press once = twice.. sad.gif
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its commonly known as key bounce" or "key chatter"

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-  What is key chattering/bouncing?
Key "chattering" or "contact bouncing" is a natural occurrence in mechanical switches that can cause one switch press to be detected as multiple presses. Under normal switch operation the digital electronics in a keyboard will filter out a small amount of natural chatter/bounce, however, in the case that an individual switch is damaged or defective, the amount of chatter/bounce can become too large to be filtered. The result is a repetition of key input seen on your computer screen for only one intended key press. This is a problem that affects only the broken switch and is a problem that is covered by your EliteKeyboards warranty.

How to test for chattering:

Severe chattering is actually very rare, but it can be very frustrating if you think the problem is you when it is actually the key switch.

If you're under a Windows operating system, we offer our own testing program Switch Hitter for extensive chatter testing. Testing under other operating systems can be achieved using the following procedure:

1. Start by opening up a text editor like Notepad in MS Windows.

2. Repeatedly press and depress the suspect key and alternate each keypress with a space. It is a good idea to vary the force with which you hit the key in question while performing this test; as chattering can sometimes show up more frequently with hard key presses, but not with light; and visa-verse.

A good switch will have output like this on your screen:

d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d

A chattering switch will output:

d d d d dd d d d dd d d d d ddd d d d d d dd ddd d d

3. Repeat step #2 for several lines and also test a few keys you do not suspect as a control case in order to eliminate your brain and fingers from the equation.

How to fix chattering:

Please, under no circumstances should compressed air be blown into a mechanical switch!! This bad advice is repeated across internet forums, and it is a recipe for disaster. Please do not do this!

If you find you are experiencing a problem with one or more switches, please contact support@elitekeyboards.com.



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Im also suffering from some of my keys on a 2 years well kept keyboard....
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post Apr 22 2016, 08:47 AM

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I decided to bring out of storage my Filco TKL, which was kept away as long as my Poker 2.....

Guess what?

Same not registering on some of the keys....But now (after more than 12 hours) of hammering the keyboard, there are just a couple keys that might need to press harder or longer to register...while pressing sometimes I wiggle2 then only it registers....

Guess this is what happens when you store the keyboard after a long time (2years++)

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owh I how nice it is to type on PBT....My Filco TKL has PBT Pink gradient keycaps wub.gif

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