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TSwordsmart
post Mar 8 2016, 11:01 PM, updated 10y ago

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I am planning to study Bachelor of Laws in Multimedia University. Anyone studied in Multimedia before or know any law graduates from Multimedia? How are lecturers there and are Multimedia law graduates able to secure employment in reputable law firms in Malaysia? Would really appreciate your replies or suggestions. ][FONT=Arial][SIZE=14]

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post Mar 9 2016, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(wordsmart @ Mar 8 2016, 11:01 PM)
I am planning to study Bachelor of Laws in Multimedia University. Anyone studied in Multimedia before or know any law graduates from Multimedia? How are lecturers there and are Multimedia law graduates able to secure employment in reputable law firms in Malaysia? Would really appreciate your replies or suggestions. ][FONT=Arial][SIZE=14]
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Got few pals graduated from MMU.

So far, most are employed in small law firms around town because they are lazy to leave Malacca / parents have their own practice somewhere.

Can't really complaint much except MMU's management kinda suck, esp when it comes to the details.

The program's solid, the lecturers and etc are as well.


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post Mar 9 2016, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Mar 9 2016, 08:06 AM)
Got few pals graduated from MMU.

So far, most are employed in small law firms around town because they are lazy to leave Malacca / parents have their own practice somewhere.

Can't really complaint much except MMU's management kinda suck, esp when it comes to the details.

The program's solid, the lecturers and etc are as well.
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likewise. i have a friend who was from there. His father owns a small practice and now working as federal counsel.

most of them go there, because it is easier to pass and there is no clp req.

And a friend who is teaching there. As far as i know her, she is really good at what she does.
Hence, it is safe to assume that teaching quality over there is not too bad from what she had told me. laugh.gif

My personal take, on Malaysian universities that offer law course:

I don't really think that they are really up to the par that gives you the edge to compete with other international law graduates. For example, if you take a look at NUS law faculty, there are distinguished lecturers who have graduated with First class Oxon, Cantab, BCL and Harvard etc. teaching there. That sets them apart from other counterparts.

Where as, in local universities, you can't really expect that much. You dont really get that much of austerity like Prof Kingsfield that can really change your core thinking. But of course, law is all about hard work ( nod.gif ). You still need to put in effort to graduate.

Having said that, if you are smart and work really hard. You will succeed regardless of wherever you are.

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post Mar 9 2016, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(qazhang @ Mar 9 2016, 08:23 AM)
likewise. i have a friend who was from there. His father owns a small practice and now working as federal counsel.

most of them go there, because it is easier to pass and there is no clp req.

And a friend who is teaching there. As far as i know her, she is really good at what she does.
Hence, it is safe to assume that teaching quality over there is not too bad from what she had told me.  laugh.gif
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The only drawback I could think off is the following :

1. Location - Not many people willing to relocate to melaka for 4 years to study laugh.gif

2. Campus - Environment a bit, Hmmmm. I see many African there, no offense.

3. Management - Crap. Always like to ask for money but efficiency almost ZERO. Happened to several friends already laugh.gif

Other than that, everything's really good tbh.


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post Mar 9 2016, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Mar 9 2016, 08:06 AM)
Got few pals graduated from MMU.

So far, most are employed in small law firms around town because they are lazy to leave Malacca / parents have their own practice somewhere.

Can't really complaint much except MMU's management kinda suck, esp when it comes to the details.

The program's solid, the lecturers and etc are as well.
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did your friends study foundation before they took up their law course at MMU or did they take STPM?
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post Mar 9 2016, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(stickmanchong17 @ Mar 9 2016, 09:38 AM)
did your friends study foundation before they took up their law course at MMU or did they take STPM?
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Few went through foundation, few went through SPTM.

Same difference actually.
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Mar 9 2016, 10:24 AM)
Few went through foundation, few went through SPTM.

Same difference actually.
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okay. My nxt question is whether yr friends wif STPM qualifications were exempted frm d CLP or not? My teacher claims dat oni students who hav done their Foundation in MMU will be exempted frm CLP, which I think is vry weird. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(stickmanchong17 @ Mar 9 2016, 11:07 AM)
okay. My nxt question is whether yr friends wif STPM qualifications were exempted frm d CLP or not? My teacher claims dat oni students who hav done their Foundation in MMU will be exempted frm CLP, which I think is vry weird.  ohmy.gif
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You want to be a lawyer right?

Go do some googling and verify your information before going online.

Bosses are not as nice as us when it comes to work.

But to answer your question :-

You do SPTM, that's equivalent to Diploma, thus you are still going to be waived off from CLP.

Ceter peribus, that is. I am not updated with the legal requirement since late 2015.
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post Mar 9 2016, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Mar 9 2016, 11:14 AM)
You want to be a lawyer right?

Go do some googling and verify your information before going online.

Bosses are not as nice as us when it comes to work.

But to answer your question :-

You do SPTM, that's equivalent to Diploma, thus you are still going to be waived off from CLP.

Ceter peribus, that is. I am not updated with the legal requirement since late 2015.
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okay, I understand~ thanks for your feedback~ thumbup.gif
TSwordsmart
post Mar 9 2016, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(qazhang @ Mar 9 2016, 08:23 AM)
likewise. i have a friend who was from there. His father owns a small practice and now working as federal counsel.

most of them go there, because it is easier to pass and there is no clp req.

And a friend who is teaching there. As far as i know her, she is really good at what she does.
Hence, it is safe to assume that teaching quality over there is not too bad from what she had told me.  laugh.gif

My personal take, on Malaysian universities that offer law course:

I don't really think that they are really up to the par that gives you the edge to compete with other international law graduates. For example, if you take a look at NUS law faculty, there are distinguished lecturers who have graduated with First class Oxon, Cantab, BCL and Harvard etc. teaching there. That sets them apart from other counterparts.

Where as, in local universities, you can't really expect that much. You dont really get that much of austerity like Prof Kingsfield that can really change your core thinking. But of course, law is all about hard work ( nod.gif ). You still need to put in effort to graduate.

Having said that, if you are smart and work really hard. You will succeed regardless of wherever you are.
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Thanks for the encouragement! I have the same opinion as you. My PLAN A is NUS whereas Multimedia Uni is just my plan B(just in case I don't get an offer).
Are you studying in Singapore or have you studied in Singapore before? Would like to hear more from you. nod.gif
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post Mar 9 2016, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(stickmanchong17 @ Mar 9 2016, 11:07 AM)
okay. My nxt question is whether yr friends wif STPM qualifications were exempted frm d CLP or not? My teacher claims dat oni students who hav done their Foundation in MMU will be exempted frm CLP, which I think is vry weird.  ohmy.gif
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You could actually check the information about the CLP exemption status through the LPQB website or the Malaysian Bar Council.
As I far as I know, the Qualifying Board declares that any person who has passed the final examination
conducted by Multimedia University would be exempted from the CLP.
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post Mar 10 2016, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(wordsmart @ Mar 9 2016, 05:32 PM)
You could actually check the information about the CLP exemption status through the LPQB website or the Malaysian Bar Council.
As I far as I know, the Qualifying Board declares that any person who has passed the final examination
conducted by Multimedia University would be exempted from the CLP.
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actually, I checked it b4. juz to clarify things further~
thx anyway! thumbup.gif
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post Mar 10 2016, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(wordsmart @ Mar 9 2016, 05:00 PM)
Thanks for the encouragement! I have the same opinion as you. My PLAN A is NUS whereas Multimedia Uni is just my plan B(just in case I don't get an offer).
Are you studying in Singapore or have you studied in Singapore before? Would like to hear more from you. nod.gif
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I did my undergrad with UoL.

If you are planning to apply for NUS, make sure you have a very strong academic background. seats are limited and very competitive. I am not sure whether they conduct interview prior admittance.

There are certain requirements that you will have to fulfill. Check out their site.

Polish your oratory skills in case they call you in for an interview. They always look for strong candidates who have passion for intellectual pursuits. Knowledge of the law is not a prerequisite for LLB (same thing if you are applying for any other university)

If you happened to get good results, apply for Asean Scholarship as well.






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post Mar 11 2016, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(wordsmart @ Mar 9 2016, 05:00 PM)
Thanks for the encouragement! I have the same opinion as you. My PLAN A is NUS whereas Multimedia Uni is just my plan B(just in case I don't get an offer).
Are you studying in Singapore or have you studied in Singapore before? Would like to hear more from you. nod.gif
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I heard this from a second-hand source, so it may not be true, but NUS operates a quota system for law school places, with about 10% open to overseas law students only.

Besides NUS, why not try Hong Kong Uni as well? I do not think they have a quota system, and as a Malaysian you cannot qualify as a Singapore lawyer, but you can qualify as a Hong Kong lawyer (if you get a job offer of course).

No knowledge of Chinese/Canto is needed to study law there. An Indian topped one of their uni's law courses before.

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post Mar 14 2016, 05:17 PM

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From what I read, my opinion as follows:-

- MMU is fully exempted from CLP with every 2 years review.

- NUS is hard to get into unless you have exceptional results in STPM/A-Levels.

- If you have $$$ then go to other private institutions: BAC, INTI, ATC etc (which leads you to 2 options:
1) do CLP (RM5k); or (2) the UK Bar Professional Training Course (18k pounds), to be called as an Advocate & Solicitor in the HC of Malaysia.

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FURTHER to the above:-

1. If you/your parents have more money to spare, by all means, go to the UK because there is a lot of exposure. Mix with the people there and know their culture, not sticking around only with your Malaysian friends.

2. However, the more practical (and economical) side of it is to do it in MMU, or other local universities that does not require you to do CLP. Yes local universities gives you a local LLB(Hons), and you cannot work overseas unless you take their bar exam.

3. Do remember also, that even if you have their qualifications, more often than not, they would not take you in for Pupillage because of work permit reasons. They would rather employ their local graduates as after all, we are foreigners.

4. In short, the wiser (and express) choice would be MMU (1 year foundation=>4 years degree=>commence Pupillage). The MMU law degree is a product of innovation, with a cyber-factor twist to it. But, if you have the resources, go to BAC/ATC/INTI=>then CLP/UKBAR. The difference is experience and exposure.

I graduated from MMU, practicing in KL.
Where you graduated from sets you to be a lawyer, but how good a lawyer are you, boils down to your attitude, your soft skills, and your skills in researching.
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post Mar 15 2016, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(Zidanefish @ Mar 14 2016, 05:17 PM)
From what I read, my opinion as follows:-

- MMU is fully exempted from CLP with every 2 years review.

- NUS is hard to get into unless you have exceptional results in STPM/A-Levels.

- If you have $$$ then go to other private institutions: BAC, INTI, ATC etc (which leads you to 2 options:
1) do CLP (RM5k); or (2) the UK Bar Professional Training Course (18k pounds), to be called as an Advocate & Solicitor in the HC of Malaysia.

*****

FURTHER to the above:-

1. If you/your parents have more money to spare, by all means, go to the UK because there is a lot of exposure. Mix with the people there and know their culture, not sticking around only with your Malaysian friends.

2. However, the more practical (and economical) side of it is to do it in MMU, or other local universities that does not require you to do CLP. Yes local universities gives you a local LLB(Hons), and you cannot work overseas unless you take their bar exam.

3. Do remember also, that even if you have their qualifications, more often than not, they would not take you in for Pupillage because of work permit reasons. They would rather employ their local graduates as after all, we are foreigners.

4. In short, the wiser (and express) choice would be MMU (1 year foundation=>4 years degree=>commence Pupillage). The MMU law degree is a product of innovation, with a cyber-factor twist to it. But, if you have the resources, go to BAC/ATC/INTI=>then CLP/UKBAR. The difference is experience and exposure.

I graduated from MMU, practicing in KL.
Where you graduated from sets you to be a lawyer, but how good a lawyer are you, boils down to your attitude, your soft skills, and your skills in researching.
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I'm aware of the circumstances and requirements you mentioned in this post but thanks so much for the great info.
If you don't mind, I would like to ask some questions about skills a lawyer should possess, as I believe I could get some great insights from you.
What are the 'basic skills' employers expect their law employees to have? For example, besides basic knowledge in Microsoft Doc and Power Point, what are the other ICT skills we need to possess? Besides critical thinking skills, self-research, ability to articulate our ideas clearly(oral and written) and distilling the key points, what are the key skills or values we need to have as lawyers? Hope to hear from you soon. smile.gif

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I'm aware of the circumstances and requirements you mentioned in this post but thanks so much for the great info.
If you don't mind, I would like to ask some questions about skills a lawyer should possess, as I believe I could get some great insights from you.
What are the 'basic skills' employers expect their law employees to have? For example, besides basic knowledge in Microsoft Doc and Power Point, what are the other ICT skills  we need to possess? Besides critical thinking skills, self-research, ability to articulate our ideas clearly(oral and written) and  distilling the key points, what are the key skills or values we need to have as lawyers? Hope to hear from you soon. smile.gif
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For general questions, you may post here as there are more experts to share their experience/advice
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2787418

 

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