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post May 3 2016, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ May 3 2016, 06:34 AM)
i dont quite understand the first sentence...
u mean torco chain lube? apa itu DE?
first wash bike, then grease the chain, then apply wd40 then chain lube?

yeah, kena poisoned by them, better safe than sorry...anyway, the OEM bearing still good though...keep it first...
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Not sure as well. My sequence is:

1) Use WD40 or some other penetrating oil (this is not lube) to clean the chain. Did this last week, my chain turned from black into silver shocking.gif
2) Wash bike.
3) Wait for the chain to dry.
4) Spray chain lube (Torco or some other brand) on the chain. Wait 1 hour or so for the lube to settle.
5) Riiiiiide

Basically what I saw from Youtube videos thumbsup.gif
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post May 4 2016, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 4 2016, 04:08 AM)

steps i used: apply degreaser to degrease the chain > wash the bike overall > apply penetrating oil on the chain (such as wd40, in my case i used liquid wrench from ace hardware since they have a chain lube combo lol) > apply liquid wrench chain lube to "replace/remove" the penetrating oil > then i used torco chain lube to "replace" the liquid wrench chain lube as it is very watery compared to Torco chain lube.

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Hmm, sounds like a lot of steps. WD-40 is basically already a degreaser so I'm not sure why another product is necessary. Same with the two chain lubes.

I'm guessing application of penetrating oil after the wash is to help dry the chain quicker?

This is the video I followed. You can see how the WD-40 just turns the chain black to silver lol:



*The video maker also recommends putting the bike on a paddock stand, put it in first gear and use the engine to turn the wheel while you wipe the chain down...DON'T DO THIS, lots of people have lost fingers this way when their finger gets caught between chain and sprocket...ouch.


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post May 4 2016, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 4 2016, 11:15 AM)
Hmm not sure what else to comment from my newbie experience,  but learning how to ride properly,  wearing proper gear (ATGATT!) is key.

Got many,  some even lower cc track bikes (not road legal)  and they are crazy fast (and loud too! Lol)

PG is really old at this point,  they've been planning for a re surfacing but plans delay as they are pending on FIM /FIA plan /approvals (PG is surprisingly adhering to international standards lol) as well as waiting on sepang to complete otherwise track junkie won't have anywhere to get their fix if both sepang and PG are down.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but from your crash video it looks like more of an impact rather than a slide. Your gear has armor right? Did it help? Glad you weren't injured. Bikes can be fixed, bodies on the other hand can be a bit more complicated.

Saw this on Pipeburn earlier...straight-line cilok traffic easy as shit but imagine the handling anywhere else shocking.gif

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post May 4 2016, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 4 2016, 02:48 PM)
tbh I always wanted a bike. been driving cars for God knows how long and frankly I'm getting sick of life. go to work. come home from work. nothing excites me anymore and no I'm not a speedster but before committing I want to know fully what I am getting myself into. like repair works. will it be expensive. how are the loans like and etc. I don't have much to spend due to we'll being an adult with house loans and car loans and starting a family

see this as a middle age crisis help
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Compared to the West, superbikes are very expensive in Malaysia due to ridiculously high sales tax.

Superbike maintenance cost can be equal to a car. Superbike tyres especially cost a lot more (think RM800-1000 for a set of two tyres) and don't last as long as car tyres, hence you need to change them more often. Stuff like opening up the engine and other in-depth work, treat it the same as car cost-wise, maybe even higher.

Motorcycle insurance is usually cheaper than cars, depending on your sum insured. Avoid buying new and then insuring the bike for the purchase price - it will have depreciated the moment you ride it away from the shop, and you then have to pay an unnecessarily higher insurance premium.

Road tax is also cheaper (250cc bike is RM50 per year).

You can't really save money commuting on a superbike compared to a car, but you will save time thumbsup.gif

You've got a few other major commitments so best route I recommend is going second-hand. Lots of cheap-ish ER6f and ER6n on the market now (RM14k-18k), they are good commuter bikes, good for beginner riders too and competitive in price against newer 250cc bikes.

Hope that helps thumbsup.gif

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post May 4 2016, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 4 2016, 03:15 PM)
yeah went on mudah.com and saw a few second hand er6f and er6n. bikes that my patients have recommended to me but it doesn't pique my love interest as much as a ninja z250 if I got the name right. are these the bikes that pdrm were given? also the Honda cbr is also on my wish list. what do you guys think.
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PDRM got the Ninja 250r, which is the original Kawasaki 250cc bike with a fairing. The Z250 (no ninja in name) is an unfaired version of the Ninja 250r.

Honda CBR250 is a single cylinder commuter. Personally I don't like the looks (big VFR-style body that doesn't match the small tyres IMO). They're surprisingly cheap second hand last time I checked, wonder why...

QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ May 4 2016, 03:32 PM)
I disagree.

Firstly, it's import duty & excise duty. Sales tax is GST lor.

Secondly, it's the tauke kedais who make sure prices will never go down. During the 1999 recession, for example, these taukes say bike prices are high because ringgit drop. After Malaysia recovered, did the prices drop? Nope. So as you can imagine, even if the excise duty drops they will find excuses not to slash the prices of their bikes.
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Thanks for the info, didn't key in on the difference between GST and import duty and wasn't aware of the situation with the bike shops. As long as there's ppl willing to pay $$$ (or take huge loans out the ass) for $$$ bikes... haiz laugh.gif

QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ May 4 2016, 03:39 PM)
That's an expensive way to clean the chain.

I'd go to Jusco & buy a cheap engine degreaser... humungous spray can, as cheap as RM10. In fact, any cheap-ass engine degreaser will do... even those in cheap pump-spray bottles.

Kalau nak lagi alternatif yg murah, guna minyak tanah (kerosene).... but it stinks as bad as diesel and it's a fire risk.
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Yeah, RM17 for a sub-500ml can puke.gif I guess the WD-40 subliminal advertising finally got to me. But yeah kerosene, I'm not touching that stuff even with a 10 ft pole. You gotta have standards right haha.

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post May 13 2016, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Rhadykall @ May 12 2016, 10:26 PM)
lol yea that area jalan like crap for months dy nobody gives a shoot to fix. bodo mia majlis.
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Time to buy a supermoto..its the only way biggrin.gif
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post May 16 2016, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ May 16 2016, 01:16 AM)
Hey guys just want to inform that quazacolt got himself into an accident (hit and run) yesterday on his way home from sepang. He's in the hospital right now. I was told he's ok but suffers some injuries that im not informed of. Hope for his speedy recovery.
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Ouch...hit and run too vmad.gif ? double sucky. Get well soon dude @quazacolt
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post May 20 2016, 11:16 AM

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Good to hear you're alive and kickin'...or at least typing on a keyboard thumbup.gif

There's ppl seriously blaming your injuries on the helmet? Wtf

Please keep us updated & recover soon thumbsup.gif
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post May 24 2016, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ May 24 2016, 03:05 PM)
Guys, I was just wondering, are bar end mirrors legal in the eye of JPJ and PDRM?
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I don't know what the actual laws say, but I used them on my previous bike and got stopped once by JPJ specifically because of them. Had to convince the officer that they were much more effective than the stock mirrors. He let me go icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 8 2016, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(kelvinbar @ Jun 8 2016, 11:25 AM)
y said so? high maintenance? or ?
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It's an Italian bike, even more exotic than Ducati. Finding parts alone would probably be quite expensive. Imagine if one of the spokes on those beautiful wheels snapped? Can't just thread in some EX5 spokes lol.

Street Triple is like 47kg lighter than a Z800 (which is even heavier than a Z1000) and can also use Japanese consumables like oil filters, so maintenance probably a bit cheaper. Then again with superbike, it's hard to make saving money on maintenance a priority haha.
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post Jun 10 2016, 02:21 PM

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Yesss...enjoy those sweet 250cc servicing costs brows.gif

On the other hand Michael Dunlop just set the all-time lap record at the Isle of Man TT on a S1000rr. All that $$$ gotta count for something hehe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nlzxR6lN7Q



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post Aug 1 2016, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 31 2016, 12:52 PM)
I'm torn in between R25 (brand new) vs ER6F (Used) as both are within my budget. Any advice? I'm new to superbike world or should I just start with the R25 first?

Planning to keep a bike for 5 years and daily uses would be commute between work and home (Puchong - KL). Sick of traffic jam.
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Another vote for ER6f. Similar size to most 250s, more power and versatility since you can do highways comfortably and still commute. The ER6f isn't a full-on sportbike so it's quite forgiving to handle. There's a reason the naked version is popular at bike schools.

IMO buying 250cc bikes brand new is kind of a major financial misstep. Maybe back when the Kawasaki Ninja was the only 250 around, sure...but nowadays you got a lot more second hand big cc options.
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post Aug 2 2016, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Aug 1 2016, 07:57 PM)
ok thank you,

any thing to look out for when buying gloves? icon_question.gif
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One feature that I see mentioned once in a while are palm sliders. Gear manufacturer Knox has some research on their purpose/effectiveness, I'd recommend looking for gloves that have them.

The plastic/carbon fiber/etc shells on gloves aren't really for impact protection, they serve the same purpose as palm sliders (as well as additional bling factor depending on the shell material).

Perforated leather gloves help a bit to keep your hands cool in our climate. Horrible for wet-weather use though. If it's raining you can try a pair of textile MX gloves.


QUOTE(5p3ak @ Aug 2 2016, 10:41 AM)
Ok noted, when brand new gloves should be a bit tighter right? Will break in? unsure.gif
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Yeah leather gloves will stretch a bit and fit better once broken in. Better if the gloves are slightly small at first, rather than slightly larger. However too tight isn't good either, the leather won't stretch *that* much.


QUOTE(Aesthetica @ Aug 1 2016, 09:37 PM)

No money at all? Why bother asking?
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Man, I was half expecting that video to end in some fail/road rash extravaganza. Kid's got skills.


QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 2 2016, 02:48 PM)

1. waterproof boots (trust me, you dun want water pool in your boots)

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Are you still using those Fieldsheer waterproof riding boots? I'm considering getting a pair for commuting and there aren't a lot of reviews online.

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post Aug 3 2016, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 2 2016, 04:27 PM)
its good. it's cheap

i wear off the soles and just go n buy a new one. that's how cheap it is.

its comfortable and can be worn to office. just ask calvin to remove the reflectors and branding.

you cant find much review online because its a locally made product

i heard they make shoes for military primarily and this is just side thingy
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Thanks for the review dude. Will check them out in the near future. I think they sell the boots on Mudah as well.


QUOTE(chinti @ Aug 3 2016, 12:04 AM)
hey guys, i never ride a bike before and now thinking of getting a bike just for weekend ride. may i know how to start? do i need to get a bike first before taking the license or they will hv bike up to certain cc for me to practice on when i go take the class? whats a good beginner bike for weekend ride?
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Get B-full. Then you can ride any type of bike for the rest of your life.

First you have to get a L license from the school, which allows you to ride a permitted bike as long as you display L stickers. So if you have a B-full L license, you can basically ride a 1000cc superbike with L stickers. I had a KLX150 at the time and just rode it to the school and back with L stickers on, no worries.

Schools will have a big bike that's 500cc+ for B-full guys. Some have ER6ns, mine had a Virago 535. I think for B2 you'll just be on a EX5. I don't think there are any schools that have bikes specifically for the totally pointless B1 license (can only ride bikes up to 500cc LOL).

Yeah the process to gain a license is annoying and time consuming but get it done and you'll have years of biking ahead and hopefully some funny stories too. I'll never forget that poor Virago with its leaking front forks and the heat cooking my thighs at 3pm in the afternoon. Or how the school adjusted the clutch so that it was never fully disengaged at any time so that it would never stall (Change into 1 from neutral with the clutch pulled in and the bike would still move ohmy.gif ). Or how I ended up meeting another biker there who invited me for a 'celebratory' TTS after we both passed, only to find out that he just wanted to sell me insurance. thumbsup.gif

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post Aug 4 2016, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 3 2016, 06:02 PM)
oh wow this lol.
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Yeah...seriously couldn't believe that guy..hahaha. Btw hope you're recovering well man!


QUOTE(Jylova @ Aug 3 2016, 09:56 PM)
I find it easier to balance the er6n on titi rather than ex5 laugh.gif
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Yeah, the extra weight makes the bike less affected by the rider's nervous body movements lol. Plus like Cyphereza mentioned, on the er6n you can pull in the clutch and give it some gas while this isn't an option on the ex5. Apparently gassing the engine is supposed to increase gyroscopic force or something which helps the bike stay upright at slow speeds. Might be a placebo effect but it seems to help?


QUOTE(adyzul @ Aug 4 2016, 09:57 AM)
Clearing the titi cannot be faster than 8secs right?
The trick is not to look down. Just concentrate looking at the end of the titi.
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I focused on keeping my head upright as much as possible as well. Seemed to help.


QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Aug 4 2016, 10:08 AM)
Not sure the exact time, but as long as you're not wiggling or swaying left and right, you should be okay.
For me, it's trickier with cruiser.
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I actually went off the titi at the start a few times during practice thanks to that Virago's busted front suspension. You'd think you've got enough momentum to go up the ramp smoothly but the front will jump all over the place once you hit the titi lol. But yeah, definitely less slow speed control with the front wheel so far away from the handlebars dry.gif
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post Aug 9 2016, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(snowberry @ Aug 8 2016, 06:15 PM)
Guys rm400 fake dainese speed tex can buy ma?

1 thing i dont understand is not original but need rm400...

Any advise, trying to get riding jacket.
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I blew RM400+ on a Dainese Super Speed textile jacket from Taobao. Seemed pretty legit quality-wise, and it came with all the armor and the info booklets and stuff. My theory is that these jackets are genuine factory rejects that didn't pass QC for reasons that aren't serious. For my jacket the front zip and the zip of one arm's armor pockets turned out to be faulty, so buyer beware. An easy fix in my case but in the future I'd rather spend extra to be able to see and try the jacket in person.

As for the jacket itself, no longer wearing it because the sleeves were too loose and didn't hold the armor tight against my arms (which aren't that skinny) laugh.gif The sleeves also do not come with tightening straps that most textile jackets have.

Despite the mesh it was still pretty hot wearing that jacket. Nowhere near as waterproof as my leather jacket either although it dried faster. Attaching the waterproof liner also diminished the mesh's cooling effect. It also doesn't come with proper back armor (have to buy separate) unlike the Komine jackets, I think?

Now on the hunt for a perforated leather jacket with armor. Leather is simply the bestest thumbup.gif (but that Hodaka RM750 deal looks really good too...thanks for sharing)

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post Aug 11 2016, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Hades76 @ Aug 11 2016, 09:06 AM)
Yes it is illegal. Bikes are not allowed to lane split / filter. We are using the same laws as Britain and thus inherited all this. In the UK now, they are trying to change the laws on this. Sykur for Msia 3rd world country....allalalalalalaalalal...
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Filtering is legal in the UK as long as you aren't moving like 20mph faster than surrounding traffic. It's also highly recommended to only filter through stationary traffic. In the UK IIRC if a rider is splitting through moving traffic and gets involved in an accident, the onus of the blame is with the rider unless they can prove otherwise.

Filtered all the time when I lived there, never got stopped by the cops lol. But when in moving traffic or on the highway bikes there act like cars. Very rarely did I see anyone riding on the centre line between lanes like here in M'sia.

As far as I know America is the only country that specifically bans filtering (it's legal-ish in California though).

Also correct me if I'm wrong but I think the terminology is something like:

Filtering: Riding in between stationary traffic.

Lane splitting: Riding in between moving traffic, especially at speeds much higher than the surrounding traffic

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post Aug 12 2016, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Aug 11 2016, 06:44 PM)
It's the first version that was brought in to msia.
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It's the carburetor version.
If possible, do you have a shop name or a gps location (or a phone number brows.gif)?
I might be from malacca but my local bearing sucks.
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Apologies in advance if you already know this, Naza Blades are rebadged Hyosung GT250Rs/GT650Rs (also known as Hyosung Comets in some countries) from Korea...so if you need to get parts from overseas for the older model, this is the model of bike to search for.


QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 11 2016, 06:58 PM)
wow didn't know the terms are different? thought they all the same thing cept called differently.

and yes US is probably the only country that has specific laws against it, although not all the states (iinm its half half ish although more in favor of banning/illegal lane split/filter)

thanks for the info! biggrin.gif
ya i scare idiots play phone/jam brake, thats why i go in between.
i know 120kph isn't exactly slow, however as many of my more enthusiast friends did scolded me that i was cruising too slow at the fast lane (again, lane splitting in between middle/fast lanes but eh lol) since people speed past 180kph on elite highway so lol
(dat feel when too slow kena fuck, too fast also kena fuck LOL)

but ya, from my experience, sure didn't help when the car just crazily overtake without a care if i'm there or not lol.
and that guy is a racer weih hahaha:
https://www.facebook.com/dan.maf.7/videos

/sigh
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Yeah the terminology is...inconsistent. I don't think it's properly codified in any country's laws so us bikers are free to throw around whatever meaning we want haha.

The US is kinda screwed up in that regard. Their roads are so wide and bikes still have to wait in traffic jams like cars -.- Their biker lobbies are too busy fighting for the right to not wear a helmet (bcos muh freedumz) too rather than the right to filter.

In the UK they put a lot of emphasis on going with the flow of traffic - not too fast, not too slow. Not sure whether it was from that SMIDSY video or some other study, but the idea is that humans aren't very good at judging speeds and the small profile of motorcycles makes it even harder to gauge their speed when they're travelling towards you in a straight line, because there aren't any points of reference. So you might see a bike's headlight in your rearview mirror but it's hard to tell if they're just going at 100kph or 200kph until they reach you. That's why I'm not a fan of all that speeding between cars on a highway because they can't reliably predict your speed and adjust their actions accordingly. I'm not trying to scold you or suggest you did something wrong BTW, that car still did a really fucking stupid risky move and then ran away like a ***** *** ***** and I hope they get what they deserve thumbsup.gif


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post Aug 18 2016, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(Aesthetica @ Aug 18 2016, 12:30 AM)
This time on Things You Can Find On Mudah: Do you want a RM40,000 Kapcai? and pay like RM36,000 for a shit number plate.
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Oh man, i can't stop laughing, hahaha.

On Mudah there's also always a few random bikes selling for millions of ringgit. I think the people who post the listings accidentally pressed too hard on 0/posted on mobile or something doh.gif
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post Aug 19 2016, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(ultra_nyamuk @ Aug 19 2016, 01:36 PM)
Hi guys.. not sure where to post this. But im a noob looking for cruiser type bikes, just for leisure.. i used to ride kapchai back in university...many years back..lol. im quite a small framed guy... so hopefully the bike is not too heavy. B2 license..so it limits me to 250cc. Thanks in advance.. i dont mind used also.
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Jaguh 175, those are cheap as hell second-hand, look pretty good IMO and seem to last forever. The bikes are basically rebadged Kawasaki Eliminator 175s, for what that's worth. Prices on Mudah seem to go from RM1k to RM3k. Should be cheap and easy to maintain, lightweight and good for small people (I'm 168cm and the bike feels like just the right size for me).

For V-twin engines you got the Virago 250, Naza Cruise 250 and Keeway Dorado 250. Personally I'd pick the Virago because 1)looks the best IMO and 2)Japanese quality. But it'll likely be the most expensive out of the three (usually like RM8k) and you can probably only buy them second-hand in Malaysia.

HTH thumbsup.gif

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