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Caterpillar_3309
post Jun 12 2016, 03:25 PM

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I'm also kinda new to this. And i do have a slight inclination to know more. TS, do you familiar with btcpips.com? A fren been promoting bitcoin to me and keeps on mentioning this site.
TSReuben
post Jun 13 2016, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(Caterpillar_3309 @ Jun 12 2016, 03:25 PM)
I'm also kinda new to this. And i do have a slight inclination to know more. TS, do you familiar with btcpips.com? A fren been promoting bitcoin to me and keeps on mentioning this site.
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Looks and smells like another HYIP scam.

a) "Expand your network" with our "marketing plan"
b) "The more you provide help, the more you earn"
c) "Community funded platform"

Doesn't seem to be about trading as the main focus.
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post Jun 13 2016, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(Reuben @ Jun 13 2016, 08:02 AM)
Looks and smells like another HYIP scam.

a) "Expand your network" with our "marketing plan"
b) "The more you provide help, the more you earn"
c) "Community funded platform"

Doesn't seem to be about trading as the main focus.
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U think so bro? He do mentioned a lot of GLC top guys joined him, but for me that just a typical MO for a scam, just like ufun, mface and the likes laugh.gif

But, to his credit, i now exposed on what is bitcoin and really looking forward to it. And your thread really helps.


TSReuben
post Jun 13 2016, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Caterpillar_3309 @ Jun 13 2016, 08:28 AM)
U think so bro? He do mentioned a lot of GLC top guys joined him, but for me that just a typical MO for a scam, just like ufun, mface and the likes laugh.gif
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It depends how you see things.

Some people think that well as long as the people you introduce know that they're getting into a HYIP scam, then it's much more ethical since everyone is fully aware of the risks. I find this more acceptable but still am against it since you know that some poor sap joining later will get burnt. In fact, it's generally estimated that 90% of people who join these schemes lose money. (http://www.investopedia.com/articles/04/042104.asp) This is why even 'top' guys can be involved since sometimes they can be the ones offering the initial 'seed capital' to fuel the pyramid scheme in its initial phases. Difference is that these people tend to know what they're getting into and know that they're making money at the expense of others which is despicable in my opinion.

But then again, scams like Genneva showed that rich people aren't necessarily savvy about these things. There's a common myth that rich and powerful people are smart about everything. That's not true. People make mistakes.You may be an expert manufacturer, construction or timber tycoon or just someone who inherited wealth or know how to hold balls doesn't mean you understand every other way to make money.

QUOTE(Caterpillar_3309 @ Jun 13 2016, 08:28 AM)
But, to his credit, i now exposed on what is bitcoin and really looking forward to it. And your thread really helps.
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Glad to hear that this thread has helped you. biggrin.gif
TSReuben
post Jun 13 2016, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 12 2016, 01:05 PM)
Bitcoin goes 8% to $626 today.

Chinese captal flight and pre-halving pump?
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668.3 USD already. Going nuts.
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post Jun 13 2016, 10:37 AM


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QUOTE(Reuben @ Jun 13 2016, 10:20 AM)
668.3 USD already. Going nuts.
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Strangely enough Ether is joining the fun, so much for inverse correlation. ATH today.
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post Jun 13 2016, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 13 2016, 10:37 AM)
Strangely enough Ether is joining the fun, so much for inverse correlation. ATH today.
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Yeah I finally exited the DAO. So many issues. Even moving it from the wallet was a pain.


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post Jun 13 2016, 11:18 PM


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QUOTE(Reuben @ Jun 13 2016, 10:48 AM)
Yeah I finally exited the DAO. So many issues. Even moving it from the wallet was a pain.
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As of right now, BTC is sitting at $706 while ETH is leading the rally with $17.40

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I haven't suit up for the moon trip, wait up damn it!
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post Jun 16 2016, 02:56 PM

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Bitcoin rallying like nuts again.
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post Jun 23 2016, 04:29 AM

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hi, im new here. i've been approach by my friend to join this bitcoin trading and it really got my attention. but after a long conversation, then i realized he is from bitkingdom.org. with the benefit almost 1% for ph (provide help), it really too good to be true. does anyone here have join this bitkingdom? or are they really scam?
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post Jun 24 2016, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Sin7 @ Jun 23 2016, 04:29 AM)
hi, im new here. i've been approach by my friend to join this bitcoin trading and it really got my attention. but after a long conversation, then i realized he is from bitkingdom.org. with the benefit almost 1% for ph (provide help), it really too good to be true. does anyone here have join this bitkingdom? or are they really scam?
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It's probably too good to be true. Even bitcoin exchanges don't have any interest. Eventually, some people will lose money from schemes like that. Do you own due diligence better. If you want to do trading use some legit and well known exchanges. Try coinhako.com or bitx
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post Jun 24 2016, 01:21 PM

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I don't get it..set up pc to mine & awarded bitcoin. Just like that? how does that work?
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post Jun 24 2016, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(DuFfz @ Jun 24 2016, 01:21 PM)
I don't get it..set up pc to mine & awarded bitcoin. Just like that? how does that work?
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yes. by word, it is easy as that. but in technical and maintenance pov, its more than that. you cannot simply use normal pc that you use to play dota to mine these bitcoin. lol.

Here a link that might ease your understanding:-

https://www.bitcoinmining.com/
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post Jun 24 2016, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(OliviaKat @ Jun 24 2016, 01:19 PM)
It's probably too good to be true. Even bitcoin exchanges don't have any interest. Eventually, some people will lose money from schemes like that. Do you own due diligence better. If you want to do trading use some legit and well known exchanges. Try coinhako.com or bitx
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agreed with you.. But so far I cant find any solid proof to prove that this bitkingdom is a scumbag taking advantage of peoples. I only found some discussion and blog entry on this bitkingdom. We need to expose people about this if not a lot of people will fall into this scheme.
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post Jun 24 2016, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Sin7 @ Jun 24 2016, 02:26 PM)
agreed with you.. But so far I cant find any solid proof to prove that this bitkingdom is a scumbag taking advantage of peoples. I only found some discussion and blog entry on this bitkingdom. We need to expose people about this if not a lot of people will fall into this scheme.
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my friend also involve in this. the good i see with bitkingdom is there is a community and can ask help because i am on my own and i dont where to start
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post Jun 24 2016, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(old_calculator @ Jun 24 2016, 02:37 PM)
my friend also involve in this. the good i see with bitkingdom is there is a community and can ask help because i am on my own and i dont where to start
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try to read this article.

http://fxsebenar.blogspot.my/2016/02/pembo...berasaskan.html

Im not sure whether its a legit blog entry or not. Need opinion from others on this also
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post Jun 24 2016, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Sin7 @ Jun 24 2016, 02:58 PM)
try to read this article.

http://fxsebenar.blogspot.my/2016/02/pembo...berasaskan.html

Im not sure whether its a legit blog entry or not. Need opinion from others on this also
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I think if you see bad reviews due to poor service that is still okay, but once you see reviews of it being a scam, it is best to avoid such websites. Keep your ringgit with more reliable exchanges
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post Jun 26 2016, 04:28 PM

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BitKingdom is a very clear scam.

First of all anyone who thinks GUARANTEED 1% interest per day is possible...obviously needs his head checked.

Secondly BitKingdom is operated by "Dato" Fadino who is no stranger to Ponzi schemes.

He headed GWGFX and BitAnt both Ponzi/HYIP schemes.
https://www.facebook.com/GelaranPalsu/posts/1508931809385874

Now check out BitAnt's 'tag line'.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1185177.0

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A Bigger Helping Hand Grin No Hyip,No Investment,NO MLM, just Helping Hand  Smiley
BitAnt is a decentralised community to build a stronger economy among participants.
100% Decentralised
Not only distribution system, but we use decentralised currency - BitCoin
Serve The Community
At BitAnt, to serve the community is our highest priority. We are the best to distribute financial aid among participants through our ground breaking algorithym. The community is us, and we are the community
Simultaneously launch at 8 country :(Singapore, Brunei, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, India, China & Malaysia)
- Provide Help (PH) : Daily Limit
- Manager Qualification : 30 Direct Sponsor
- Payment Gateway : BitCoin (BTC)


Sounds familiar?

BitKingdom's modus operandi is similar to MMM (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMM_(Ponzi_scheme_company)) which is also making a resurgence in South Africa (aiming a "30% per month" return through a "social financial network).

Sounds familiar?

Unfortunately, a lot of the pioneering group of people involved in Bitcoin in Malaysia have used their influence to promote these Ponzi type scams, some of them which I know personally and find very disappointing. They know it's a scam but still choose to perpetuate it because it makes a huge amount of money and Malaysia government's sluggish reaction to these schemes.

You can also read bitcointalk's thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1305732.20

On a side note, most cloud mining operations are also scams (especially if they're giving crazy returns). If you've done mining before, you know the break even point. Even with the latest hardware at bulk rate prices and free electricity, break even still takes months. Cloud mining services are great to do Ponzi type scams because it is hard to verify their actual operations and they usually just take pictures of some Bitcoin hardware and say it's their farm.
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Any altcoins worth investing in, and purchasable by using fiat currencies?
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post Jun 26 2016, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Reuben @ Mar 8 2016, 07:05 PM)
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Hi guys! I am a big cryptocurrency fan and thought I would like to share my knowledge with everyone as too often the lack of knowledge is being used to scam people such as unethical Ponzi/pyramid schemes like OneCoin, Capricoin, Utoken, MMM, Bitclubnetwork, BitKingdom, Coinbit, AviaBitcoin that use Bitcoin to evade BNM regulations by accepting Bitcoin deposits only.

Please feel free to ask any questions you may have about Bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies and I'll be happy to answer.

To begin with here's an introduction to the top 10 cryptocurrencies accurate as of today in terms of market capitalization.

SUMMARY OF TOP 10 CRYPTO CURRENCIES IN TERMS OF MARKETCAP

1. Bitcoin (6.3 bil market cap) The first decentralised cryptocurrency. Most merchant adoption and public awareness. Currently going through some disagreements on how to upgrade it to handle increased transaction load.

2. Ethereum (757 mil market cap) Very hot new crypto. Doesn't seek to be a currency but as a decentralised platform for applications to run. For e.g. self executing contracts that once placed in, will auto perform it upon conditions being met free from third party interference. Recently enjoyed a huge boost in price.

3. Ripple (271 mil) More aimed at banks/financial institutions and payment networks as a settlement infrastructure technology. This allows banks to settle with each other quickly at low cost reducing transaction fees.

4. Litecoin (145 mil) Used to be the no.2 cryptocurrency. Was the first altcoin that hoped to make transaction times faster and for mining to be decentralized. However these improvements have been replaced by better solutions in other coins. Development has slowed a lot and has not developed any innovative features in a while. However, still a lot of people invested in it which keeps it alive.

5. MaidSafe (45 mil): Recently gained a lot in price. Intends to replace centralized datacenters by building a fully decentralized data and communication network. That means people who participate in MaidSafe allow part of their computers to be used by other people in the network be it computing power/disk space. For e.g. it's like Dropbox except that instead of being held in Dropbox centres, your data is spread throughout the network by everyone who uses MaidSafe too in a safe and encrypted way.

6. Dash (26.6 mil): Aims to compete directly with Bitcoin as a digital curency by solving all major problems that Bitcoin has. This means instant transactions, anonymous transactions and eventually decentralized payment processors and easy to use APIs. Has a self governance model that allows stake holders to vote on the future and direction of Dash (unlike Bitcoin which relies on miners and core devs). One of the few currencies that derives its funding from its own blockchain.

7. Dogecoin (23.6 mil): Started out as a joke coin and has almost the same features as Litecoin. Fun and wide community support but little in the way of revolutionary features. One of the earlier cryptocurrencies.

8. Factom (19.7 mil): Aims to be the premier solution for records management and notarial services. For e.g. in medical records, supply chain management, voting systems, property titles. It creates an immutable audit trail. Whereas Bitcoin's blockchain stores transactions, Factom is designed to store any data.

9. NEM (15.2 mil): Experienced a huge gain in price recently. Doesn't require mining and uses POI. Has integrated messaging and multi-signature. Distributed its coins through a crowd sale. Secure messaging. Aims to be the premier solution for creating your own tokens, ledger system, asset listing without having to maintain or create your own blockchain.

10.  Monero (11.6 mil): Monero focuses on privacy with privacy at its very core. Unlike other blockchains which are transparent and publicly viewable, Monero's blockchain is opaque meaning people cannot trace your payments.

HOW DO YOU GET BITCOINS?

Get yourself a proper wallet. For Android, I recommend Mycelium, for iOS I recommend Breadwallet. For desktop usage, I recommend Multibit HD or Electrum.

You can technically also mine them but you won't get much in most cases for it to be meaningful unless you have a lot of money and a source of cheap electricity.

You can grab them off Malaysian exchanges or through trading groups.

These are the three I trust:
Coinbox Fastest deposits and withdrawals. Malaysian company. 1% fee on withdrawals but free trading.
BitX Great mobile app and website. Competitive market. 1% fee on taker.
Coinhako Buy and sell Bitcoins easily.

Although I trust them, they are by no means foolproof as regulatory approval is a bit grey. Trading groups can also be very risky so as a newbie I would advise sticking to the exchanges.
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