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fact3
post Mar 27 2016, 04:30 AM

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hello all sifu and members, need some opinion please tongue.gif

my car is 2013 focus red colour; have been fairly neglected since i have not much time(work shift) only sometime wash her and spray wax a bit. most of time just let some bawah pokok carwash clean the car while im eating at nearby restaurant. so yea, the car is actually full of fine thin swirls.

now i am using meguiar's gold class shampoo and ultimate quik wax, both almost finish now so im looking for replacement; shampoo that perform at economic price and wax that last long biggrin.gif
here is some item that caught my attention so far

1. Shampoo Zymol Natural Concentrate Auto Wash

2. Shampoo 2nd choice Turtle Wax ICE® Car Wash

3. Clay, found this way too good offer on lazada, what sifuu think about this Suspicious Clay Bar
the picture show 3M brand. but would poor clay quality harm the car other than wasting time for not working as intended?

4. degreaser/ paint prepper/ wax stripper; i really wonder if i really need this to prepare the surface. will just claying already strip off all wax or maybe washing using regular dishwashing soap like Sunlight is good enough to start anew?

5. polish/ compounding. i did have a thought of treatment for all swirls, but the idea of using abrasive stuff that actually could actually strip the paint scares me a bit biggrin.gif . is there anything in this category that is newbie safe?

6. sealant; i dont really understand what sealant is or did i correctly put it here in this sequence. is it safe to move on to wax without sealant? teach me sifu tongue.gif

7. wax; feel want to try Turtle Wax ICE® Paste Wax after watching this video


8. claying lube; could i use a fresh diluted mixture of car shampoo i list above as clay lube?

9. what do you guys think of Turtle Wax Rinse Free Wash & Wax? could it also be safe to use as clay lube? i do wonder if it safe to use to remove bird dropping on hot car surface if i keep a diluted solution of it in spray bottle?


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fact3
post Mar 28 2016, 12:53 AM

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hey, thanks for the reply, good to learn something everyday
but calling me detailer overshooting it a bit haha sweat.gif

few follow up

1. Meguiar's Hyper Wash is professional grade stuff and size lol sweat.gif , dont even know where to source or if the price is within my consideration limit. i think ill just stick with regular on the shelf product.

2. APC; any product that you could recommend of? consumer line product of course tongue.gif . there is plenty of kitchen use brand, but i have concern of how they work against rubber since most of them aim to remove oil and rubbers will turn hard and grey and lose all its elasticity if its natural oil is removed from them.

3. difference of polishing and compounding was lost on me. the product description of TURTLE WAX® ICE® SPEED COMPOUND and Meguiar's® Ultimate Compound is pretty much the same as most polish product. is it safe if i hand-applied this two product to the whole car to remove all the swirl; or should i try with polish product first?

4. could no rinse wash diluted and kept in spray bottle work as quick detailer? especially to use to remove fresh bird dropping under hot sun. using branded quik detailer to remove bird dropping is quite expensive method; feels like wiping it of with your paper note money cry.gif .

5. how to wash off all mitts and cloths after detailing. is it safe if i put all washing mitts + drying cloth + polishing cloth + waxing cloth in the same washing machine and wash it off in the single same session? should i use detergent or just plain water without detergent?

QUOTE(daedalus @ Mar 27 2016, 07:50 AM)
Hello fellow detailer, definitely should wash your focus a lot more often yourself safely to reduce all those swirl marks cause by car washes with improper technique!

When it comes to shampoo, you'll really have to consider what sort of qualities you like in a shampoo, foaminess? detergency? lubricity? hand feel? scent? free rinsing? etc etc. The Meguiar's Gold Class is a fantastic shampoo with a great handfeel. Have you tried Meguiar's Hyper Wash? It has fantastic lubricity and handfeel, good detergency against road grime and rinses off easily to boot.

Another great shampoo is Optimum Car Wash. Regardless of which shampoo you decide to pick up, always remember to check the dilution ratios, the higher the dilution - the more economical your wash will be. Dilution ratios are also dependent on the quality of your water, the harder your water - the more you have to use. Also factor in your wash tools such as foam guns or foam cannons (foam guns 100ml shampoo concentrate, foam cannons 50ml)

Clay bars, you should try and pick these up from a reputable seller, but keep in mind that claying your car could potentially cause marring on your paint. It may be a good idea to follow up your claying with a one step polish. Claying your car will also strip off your wax coating but you can always use pour a shot of APC into your foam cannon or foam gun or wash bucket, that will give some degreasing ability to your wash. In this way you can wash and strip off the wax at the same time.

Another and probably more effective way to ensure that wax is stripped off, pour some APC (usually at a dilution of 3 : 1) in a pressure pump sprayer and pre-soak your vehicle and follow up with a thorough wash. Make sure you rinse your car down well as some APCs do not rinse free.

Polishing and compounding all boils down the proper technique. As long as you stick to a DA type tool and also polish and compound products geared towards newcomers, you should A-O-K

Waxes and sealants. In the past the best way to actually protect your car is by using a wax, but these usually don't last long and so they've come up with sealants which last a lot longer than waxes. So you either choose a wax or a sealant to protect your car from the elements. As to which you actually use, that really depends on your car care methodology. How often do you wash your car? How much time do you have when washing? Do you like doing it often or prefer to do it only once in a long while?

If you like washing your car often but don't have much time in your session, I would recommend using a spray wax. After every wash, just use your spray wax as a drying aid along with your microfibre towel / waffle weave, this will give your car the protection that it needs until your next wash which isn't too far away.
If on the other hand if you only prefer washing once in a long while, use a sealant which will last a couple of months. You can always use a wax as a topper on your sealant but ensure that you check with the manufacturer of your products, some products aren't meant to be topped or won't play well with other products.

Use a detail spray for your clay lube or if you are a fan of waterless washes, your waterless wash concentrate properly diluted will also make an excellent clay lube. A shampoo is also possible if it has very good lubricity.

Happy detailing,

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fact3
post Mar 28 2016, 07:33 AM

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thank you for all the answers

will come back for more, cheers!
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fact3
post May 26 2016, 08:28 AM

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Need some advice

Yesterday i clayed my car, but after i only manage to wax the hood rain come

So my car pretty much left naked without protection now.

So if i want to finish up waxing do i have to clay again or just water jet or just washing is enough?

 

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