QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 26 2020, 09:18 AM)
Ah ha, someone who understood finally. Yes, usually the spray ceramic wax is final layer. Either on bare body or on top of ceramic coating as topper.
Thanks. TW Ice S&S still better than Meguiar Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax or Meguiar Ultimate Liquid wax in terms of durability and chemical/weather resistance?
I'm looking at my options for the highest durability, the least cost and perhaps the least maintenance. Appreciate if you have any comments like the pros and cons for the options below:
Option 1Turtle Wax ICE Seal n Shine (Sealant + Si02) > Meguiar hybrid ceramic spray wax (Si02)
After every wash, apply Meguiar hybrid ceramic spray wax
Option 2:Meguiar hybrid ceramic liquid wax (Sealant + Si02) > Meguiar hybrid ceramic spray wax (Si02)
After every wash, apply Meguiar hybrid ceramic spray wax
Option 3:Meguiar liquid wax (Sealant) > Meguiar hybrid ceramic spray wax (Si02)
After every wash, apply Meguiar hybrid ceramic spray wax
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Apologies for the many questions as I'm quite confused haha
QUOTE(newhouseowner @ Sep 26 2020, 10:28 AM)
I already mentioned it in my previous post.
Yes it can.
Not really, depends on what hybrid ceramic wax you used. If you used meguiar hybrid ceramic liquid wax (yellow one), then do not combo with wax or sealant. This wax combo with meguiar hybrid ceramic wax (blue one) and hybrid ceramic detailer (boost gloss and hydrophopic as a maintenance.) if you used with sealant or wax, it negate the benefit of hybrid ceramic wax especially self cleaning.
If you combo meguair ultimate paste/liquid wax (aka sealant) with hybrid ceramic wax (blue one), the correct way was apply sealant first after properly prep your car, after curing 12hours and above, then apply meguiar hybrid ceramic wax (blue one). Then you have best of both world of hydrophobic, self cleaning, durability and gloss.
Point 2: Yes, always last.
How about my art below by meguiar ultimate liquid wax combo with hybrid ceramic wax (blue one) on 23/8:

Thank you for introducing Meguiar hybrid ceramic liquid wax.
Just to clarify that you meant the Meguiar hybrid ceramic liquid wax should NOT be used with a wax/sealant but should/can be used with Meguiar hybrid ceramix wax and/or hybrid ceramic detailer?
If so, since you said the hybrid ceramic liquid wax should not combo with a wax, isn't the meguiar hybrid ceramic wax (blue one) a wax as well, I mean even the name says it's a "wax"?
QUOTE(newhouseowner @ Sep 26 2020, 10:28 AM)
If you combo meguair ultimate paste/liquid wax (aka sealant) with hybrid ceramic wax (blue one), the correct way was apply sealant first after properly prep your car, after curing 12hours and above, then apply meguiar hybrid ceramic wax (blue one). Then you have best of both world of hydrophobic, self cleaning, durability and gloss.
Point 2: Yes, always last.
1) Meguiar ultimate paste/liquid wax is actually not wax but a sealant? Reading further, the ultimate paste/liquid wax are synthetic wax but are synthetic wax considered as sealants then?
2) Let's say I use the Meguiar Hybrid ceramic liquid wax as the only layer. After every wash, what should I "top up" to maintain the hydrophobicity?
3) How is the durability of the Meguiar hybrid ceramic liquid wax compared to other sealants such as Turtle Wax Ice Seal n Shine or Meguiar Synthetic Sealant 2.0?
Apologies for the many questions as I'm quite confused haha
QUOTE(derail @ Sep 26 2020, 08:27 PM)
I think the idea is to avoid rubbing on a petroleum based wax/sealant over the ceramic coating which would degrade it. Some people want to layer on waxes/sealants for the better protection and a water based spray on ceramic coating would probably help to preserve the underlying wax layer for a longer time.
Thanks.
Let's say the base layer is a wax that typically lasts 3 months. The first/last layer is the ceramic/Si02 coating which lasts 5 months. Does it mean the wax will now last as long as the ceramic/Si02 coating? Simply put, the base layer will only last as long as the last layer?
This post has been edited by -kytz-: Sep 27 2020, 04:03 AM