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gfwong
post Apr 21 2017, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(clickNsnap @ Apr 20 2017, 11:20 PM)
Thanks for the advise! gfwong.

My routine will be as below:
1) weekly: wash + Turtle spray wax
2) monthly or bi-monthly: wash + pure sealant
3) quarterly or half yearly: wash + clay + PG polymer sealant

Between the pure sealant or wax, sealant is easier to apply and last longer, right? any recommendation for 'affordable' pure sealant?

Btw, can I use the Turtle spray wax for those 'black rubber area', like the car fender?
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Well planned out routine rclxms.gif . Enjoy what suites you.

Sealants should last longer than wax but wax will give a deeper richer shine. For light coloured cars, sealant should be good enough. For affordable sealant, you can try Fusso 12 month wax. Just don't expect it to last 12 months in our weather though. tongue.gif Look for offers in Lazada.

As for spray wax, we can use them on any surface including rubber & plastic trim. That's the beauty rclxms.gif

Happy detailing biggrin.gif
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post Apr 21 2017, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(douglas_tong @ Apr 21 2017, 02:41 AM)
So I'm considering getting a leaf blower to dry my car. A cordless one

However after some research, there are 2 cons
1) you will have to chase after water that lands from the blowing, it can be frustrating
2) battery doesn't last. Want a cordless cause electric supply is a hassle

The only pro I see is time effectiveness.

Anyone here use leaf blower and would like to share some inputs?
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Been eying for a leaf blower too. I saw one from Black & Decker but it's quite pricey.
I've also seen some wired cheap ones from Mr. DIY. Not sure if they are good or not.

Need someone to share some inputs.
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post Apr 24 2017, 03:27 PM

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My first attempt in durability comparison. I hope I would be able to conclude it.
Synthetic Waxes Durability Waxes
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post Apr 27 2017, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 27 2017, 01:00 AM)
Dude. you should consider open a Facebook page for your blog, easier for us to follow an update.
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I am still a small fry and thinking of keeping things low-key smile.gif . But I will consider your suggestion, bro. Thanks.
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post Apr 27 2017, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Zoopdiidoo @ Apr 27 2017, 03:30 PM)
Read your full car wash post....damn using colander as grit guards...pure genius, never though of that ......been looking for grit guards like forever....even Ace Hardware doesn't have them.
For the Claying if you use the quick detailer from PG...should it be done when the surface is wet or dry? I tried doing it when my car was already dry.....i had to buff off the quick detailer with pressure as though i am waxing my car.
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I think you can find grit guard on Lazada. Colander is not perfect but it works smile.gif
I have never used PG QD before but I prefer to clay my car wet.
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post Apr 30 2017, 11:07 PM

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Update on Synthetic Waxes Durability Test Update: Week 2

This is a quick update on the initial post.

Note: Just for sharing and results are subjective based on personal observations.

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post May 2 2017, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(Waregem @ May 1 2017, 01:54 PM)
The wax content in Meg's ultimate wash and wax would somehow interfered the results.
Perhaps you should use the non wax mild car shampoo for the test purpose, such as optimum car wash.
Some users avoided using those wash and wax car shampoo because they like the water beads from their wax of choice.
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I doubt the "wax" in the Meg Ultimate Wash & Wax is significant enough to do anything. I did a test on the wash before. See here. Even if it does, should it not "enhance" Meg Ultimate Paste Wax? Since they are both from the same range.


QUOTE(linkin182 @ May 2 2017, 07:42 AM)
Correct me if I'm wrong, Water Beading = Paint Protection?  blink.gif
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Not a straight forward answer but let me share what I think. Please bear with me.

If water beads up it shows that the surface is hydrophobic and because of the surface tension of water, it will not "wet" the surface and beads up. The general idea of a hydrophobic surface is that dirty liquid will not "wet" and smear all over the surface. But if those water droplets are left to stay till to dry (and with some dirt encapsulated in them), there could potentially be water mark. So I read.

IMHO sealants protects the paint by being a sacrificial barrier. It prevents dirt from sticking directly onto the paint. Be it hydrophobic or slick. So a slick surface that sheets away water and dirt is as good as a surface that beads water. It is just that a surface that beads water gives a Wow effect. And this is where the marketing gimmick works, I guess smile.gif

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post May 2 2017, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(linkin182 @ May 2 2017, 08:29 AM)
Great write up! It makes sense in your reply. Though I can't comment on other wax particularly Soft 99 (as it showed fantastic water beading), what I could only comment was on Meguiars products (Sorry not a Megs fan boy, just that it was what I started with and still having left overs  sweat.gif).

For me, I've been using the Ultimate Quick Wax and the Ultimate Liquid Wax products and I must say that the water beading doesn't last long (as observed) however the water sheeting is excellent for a good 2 weeks for the UQW and a good 1 month of ULW.
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UQW is one of my favorite spray wax. An yes, those paste wax/ liquid wax takes forever to use up.
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post May 3 2017, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ May 2 2017, 05:56 PM)
The soft99 fusso coat really impress me too, but 1 thing i dont like is its really very hard to buff off, serious i will stil choose meg ultimatr liquiq wax, because i can just put on rotary polish and roll all over the car surface , and wipe without needed muscle power, the soft99 really make my hand pain 1 week

If ULW need 30 min to do all car, soft99 at least need x3 time of it
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QUOTE(hebehow @ May 2 2017, 10:33 PM)
Although the fusso coat's hydrophobic properties is very good (it is my 1st wax), but i never use it on my car anymore...1st it is really hard to apply, 2nd the leftover or residue is too much until it will make ur trim faded(or to say gt white color), 3rd it didnt enhance the shining of the car so much, it more on water beading and sheeting...so if u prefer durability go for fusso coat, if u prefer shining go for carnauba wax...and oso, sealant and wax is 2 diferent thing though, so ahrd to compare...what i do is put sealant 1st then put another layer of carnauba wax to top up...so it will become durable and shining...(dunno correct or not)..lol
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Comparing to Meg Ultimate Paste Wax, Fusso is not that hard to apply. Just make sure that only a thin layer is applied else it would be kinda hard to buff off like any other paste products. To use a DA and a finishing foam, just use a butter knife and spread it like butter on bread on the foam pad biggrin.gif

Yeah, sealant(synthetic wax) has better durability over wax. But wax gives a much deeper, richer shine especially on darker paints. It is a normal practice to layer wax over sealant (after it has cured). Personally, I just wanted something that is durable to protect the paint. Not so much into deep shine. That's why I do not have any carnauba wax tongue.gif . It's all up to personal preferences.

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post May 4 2017, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ May 4 2017, 01:36 PM)
bro , i just found malaysia clover 15mm DA distribution , they cod me RM850 include postage

while Osren 8mm ORBIT raise price le become RM730 + 6% gst  RM773 + postage should be around RM20 = RM793

now the gap between RM50 only , is the Clover 15mm DA compared to DAP15? I know someone who own it here right
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QUOTE(toonny @ May 4 2017, 03:35 PM)
gfwong has the clover DA 15mm orbit if not mistaken. He has review on the machine too.

Review by Car Porch Detailer
Osren do have 1 15mm orbit too.. but price is around 900 - 950 if i recall correctly.
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Yup, I have a Clover 15 mm. It's quite good. The vibration is less than Bosch GEX-125 (the only other power tool I have and can compare with ).

QUOTE(N33d @ May 4 2017, 03:40 PM)
hmm
sorry for my ignorance,
this is the first time i heard ppl saying about leaving swirls marks on paint from DA when compare to rotary
should not it be another way round? what i have read is it is impossible for rotary to leave swirl free paints due to the nature on how the thing work, that is why ppl usually finish the paint it with DA. not the other way round.

the only biggest downside of DA to me is lower correction power and its noise and vibration
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Agreed. AFAIK swirls/holograms are caused by improper use of rotary. DA should not be causing them. Unless if we are talking about removing "already induced swirls" rotary might have higher correction power than a DA and could remove them faster. But that is if you master handling rotary else you could be introducing more swirls. DA on the other hand is pretty fool-proof especially for home amateurs like myself. With the right compound and pads and a little time, DA should do quite a good job in correction. Again, look up for Larry from Ammo NYC videos on Youtube. His go-to correction tool is a Rupes 15mm with Meg 105 for cutting and Meg 205 for polishing.
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post May 4 2017, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ May 4 2017, 04:12 PM)
At the end i go for Clover 15mm DA , with 6 month warranty , i not sure how much is DAP15 or CLover Force DA , because i only want make my budget as low as possible , because osren DAP8 cost me around RM800 include postage and the Clover RM850 include postage , gap between Rm50 should be ok , and hope i happy with my purchase  rclxms.gif
Not sure why osren saying that , it only leave swirl mark for SOLID White paint honda paint , maybe from their experience they meet that problem ?
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My 2 sen on Honda paint.
For Honda paint on a DA, I would prefer go straight with Meg Ult Compound and skip Meg Ult Polish. Meg Ult polish tends to cake-up on Honda paint but Meg Ult compound will finish to a great shine. I would use LC green CCS pad to finish.
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post May 4 2017, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ May 4 2017, 04:54 PM)
u mean i direct apply DA + Ultimate compound without polishing?? Compound won't causing swirl anyway? I thought after compound we need to do Polishing for finishing else will leave halogram and light swirl , correct me if i'm wrong , i also stil learning how to do paint correct , previously only Clay bar , wax
Did u mean Lake Country Force Disc??

currently i got Grey , White , Black , which combo should i go with anyway?
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Meg ultimate compound can finish to a shine. It won't haze up then paint like traditional compound. I'm using lake country CCS pads. For force disc maybe others can advise.
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post May 4 2017, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(N33d @ May 4 2017, 04:47 PM)
lol thanks to this forum
now i know honda paint need special care in case my next car is honda biggrin.gif

sifu @gfwong
from your review look like that clover DA is a good buy
but i quite concern on the part that you mentioned that youwore a headphone due to the noise, is the noise really that bad?
I am going to polish the car at my gf home town or my fren house and i do not want to piss anyone off
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I guess most DA are noisy tongue.gif
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post May 4 2017, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(douglas_tong @ May 4 2017, 05:28 PM)
My experience, if it is a hot and humid day it will be hard to buff off with ultimate polish on honda cars/Japanese cars
If it is a good morning without much heat it is easier.

Based on my neighbours Honda car while helping to remove some scratches.
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I normally wash in the morning and by the time I start polishing, it's mostly in the afternoon.
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post May 5 2017, 07:53 AM

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Okay, side track a bit. I frequently get this yellow roti canai dahl spots on my car. Now I know. They are bee poop!

https://youtu.be/rTDw7PJBSbM

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post May 5 2017, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(blurcase @ May 5 2017, 11:04 AM)
Lol, I believe each detailer to their own budget lor. If u can produce a car finish satisfactory to your own standard, then its mission accomplished.  smile.gif
OMG! sifu gfwong thanks very much for sharing! I always wondered where those yellow spots come from since I dont often park under any tree. Really good to know that its not as dangerous as bird poop.
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No sifu lah. We all friend friend share share same same smile.gif
So now we know bees poop also tongue.gif
Our cars are actually toilets for the birds and the bees.

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post May 5 2017, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(douglas_tong @ May 5 2017, 03:02 PM)
I always thought that those are pollens...cause my neighbour has a farm. (literally speaking) very nice garden.

Don't see any bees around in the morning either.
Thanks for sharing.
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Lol! Side track again. Someone managed to capture a bee pooping
https://youtu.be/njtnGFHtrhc
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post May 15 2017, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(~C.W.S~ @ May 15 2017, 09:38 AM)
Speaking about micro fiber towel how you guys wash it after used for like polishing, buffing wax and drying? Can I mix with dish washing detergent to wash the towel?
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I hand wash MF towel and polishing pads with dish washing liquid. So far so good but a little labour intensive when I have a lot of towels, especially after waterless washing the car.

QUOTE(N33d @ May 15 2017, 10:23 AM)
for me i spray APC like optimum power clean on the towel then soak it with warm or hot water for 1 day
then hand wash it, after that load it in the machine and wash with normal detergent.
so far could eliminate most of the polishing and compounding oil. But some sealant are resilient, no way to get them out thru normal washing cycle
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APC is a great idea. I'll try them next time for more stubborn stuff. But I do not dare to wash them in washing machine. My wife will kill me.

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post May 19 2017, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(GJolie @ May 18 2017, 04:27 PM)
Hello to the Fast & Furious!

I'm doing some research about the Car Care market. Hope this is the right place to post!


I'd appreciate it if any of you can help answer some of my questions below:

1. Does the Raya season affect your purchasing behaviour of Car Care products? For example, Raya is approaching so you buy more in preparation for 'balik kampung', or you don't buy at all as you don't need it, or you buy less, etc.

2. Do you like to send your car to workshops/car wash, or are you more of a DIY guy and buy the products to care for your car yourself? Why is that so?

If you have more comments to add, that will be great too!

Thank you in advance smile.gif
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1. Not affected by season. Buy as I need and buy as I want tongue.gif
2. DIYer here. I just do not trust most of the so-called self-proclaimed "professionals" in Malaysia.
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post May 23 2017, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(douglas_tong @ May 23 2017, 01:59 PM)
I definitely clay more than twice a year. Ask cause I was inspecting my car last night and notice it was still ok (except for waterspot). Then I realised I haven't been cleaning tar off for quite some time.

Maybe protected sealed cars are less prone to it? Could be perhaps mine is a black car and tougher to see?
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Now that you brought it up, I haven't really notice tar on my car. If there are spots near the under side, they washed off quite easily. confused.gif

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