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Malaysia & Turkey now same level..., or sama-sama brother liao...
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TSpatnam
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Mar 8 2016, 09:23 AM, updated 10y ago
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warning! might be TLDR... QUOTE Crackdowns in Malaysia, Turkey mark end of ‘successful Muslim democracies’, says daily
Published: 8 March 2016 8:22 AM
Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak (right) mirrors strongman leaders in trouble by protecting his own power, observes the Sydney Morning Herald, comparing him to the crackdown in Turkey against critics of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. – AFP file pic, March 8, 2016. Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak (right) mirrors strongman leaders in trouble by protecting his own power, observes the Sydney Morning Herald, comparing him to the crackdown in Turkey against critics of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. – AFP file pic, March 8, 2016. Malaysia and Turkey, once hailed as "successful, secular democracies" among Muslim nations, are now failing as authorities crack down on journalists and stifle press freedom, the Sydney Morning Herald comments in an editorial today.
"Both Turkey's Erdogan and Malaysia's Najib have been following the universal handbook for strongman leaders in trouble – they are protecting their own power," said the paper, referring to Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak.
"And perhaps the biggest single impulse to censorship has been the effort to silence allegations of personal corruption at the very top."
Last week, Turkish authorities seized control of a newspaper in a widening crackdown against supporters of Muslim cleric Fethullah Gulen, a staunch critic of Erdogan.
Zaman, Turkey's top-selling newspaper, was taken over by the state, in what Ankara claimed was part of an investigation into illicit financing of a "Gulenist terror group".
This followed arrests of 52 people linked with Erdogan's AKP ruling party, over a money-laundering scheme, with Turkish police discovering millions of dollars in cash allegedly used to pay bribes.
An audio clip was later posted on YouTube, in which Erdogan was heard telling his son to get rid of tens of millions of dollars, but the Turkish leader said it was orchestrated by the US-based Gulen.
SMH compares the media clampdown in Turkey with the blocking of The Malaysian Insider news site by the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission over a report that cited a source as saying that corruption charges had been recommended against Najib over some RM2.6 billion found in his personal bank accounts.
It said the developments in both countries "will put democracies in the Islamic world on the list of endangered species".
"And they are sliding. In the past 10 days, the governments in both countries shut down media outlets that dared report unflattering facts about their leaders."
The daily quoted an expert from the Australian National University (ANU) as saying that Malaysia's slide towards authoritarianism had begun since the rule of Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, after he sacked his deputy Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim in 1998.
"It's been sliding to authoritarianism for some time and now it's coming to a head," said Amin Saikal of ANU's Centre for Arab and Islamic Studies.
"Turkey was more successful than Malaysia."
Saikal said although the Arab spring brought about democracies in some Muslim countries, it was Indonesia which had been more successful. – March 8, 2016. TMIThis post has been edited by patnam: Mar 8 2016, 10:30 AM
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rjsyazwan
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Mar 8 2016, 09:25 AM
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so can we get cheaper kebab?
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luxollidd
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Mar 8 2016, 09:26 AM
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agenda yahudi. oh wai-
anyway, you make enemies with the media, expect the reaction lo. bijan think social network is like tv3 utusan? tell them to fark off they'll happily oblige?
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arif85124
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Mar 8 2016, 09:30 AM
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remove kebab
serb stronkest
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DDG_Ross
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Mar 8 2016, 09:31 AM
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link 404
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arubin
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Mar 8 2016, 09:31 AM
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Except accusing DAP of terrorism would be topkek levels of unbelievable hilarity.
Which is why they try to link DAP with Yahudi instead.
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arubin
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Mar 8 2016, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 8 2016, 09:31 AM) link works fine. your internet 404 only cos gomen censor.
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SUSeksk
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Mar 8 2016, 09:34 AM
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man.. turkey was the shining beacon of a working secular democracy in the Islamic world.. sad to see it going down the drain under the helm of Erdogan.. and to think when he first emerge , he was seen as a moderate leader..
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SUSrobertchoo
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Mar 8 2016, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(patnam @ Mar 8 2016, 09:23 AM) warning! might be TLDR... TMIsame level of extremism.
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SUSrobertchoo
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Mar 8 2016, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(arubin @ Mar 8 2016, 09:31 AM) Except accusing DAP of terrorism would be topkek levels of unbelievable hilarity. Which is why they try to link DAP with Yahudi instead. which is hilarious since DAP has never known to have any form of relationship with zionist regime. Heck most Malaysian have probably never even seen a jew let alone work with one!
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Aurigae
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Mar 8 2016, 09:44 AM
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One leader can do so much damage
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EarendurFefalas
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Mar 8 2016, 09:52 AM
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what is the definition of muslim democracy
and does malaysia included in that term?
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hanzyms
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Mar 8 2016, 09:54 AM
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do u mean prince turki?
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louisckw
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Mar 8 2016, 09:55 AM
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All governments basically want to turn all citizens into stupid and obedient slaves...    » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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and85rew
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Mar 8 2016, 10:07 AM
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malaysia heading that way
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SUShypervisor
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Mar 8 2016, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(arubin @ Mar 8 2016, 09:31 AM) Except accusing DAP of terrorism would be topkek levels of unbelievable hilarity. Which is why they try to link DAP with Yahudi instead. so what kind of counter-argument that LKS going to use this time? cmon la macai, its already on roketkini. com looking at LKS's reply in roketkini is realy topkek, he seems dont have clue on how to smash on that Yahudi accusation.. why dont just take legal action in court? easy peasy if nothing to hide http://www.roketkini.com/2016/02/20/dap-50...ngorak-langkah/Penipuan terbaru terhadap DAP adalah berkaitan tuduhan kononnya Israel memberi tawaran RM1.2 bilion untuk membuka pangkalan tentera laut di Port Dickson. Mengapa mereka mahukan pangkalan berkenaan di sebuah kawasan resort di Port Dickson, saya sendiri tidak dapat menghadamnya. Tetapi penipuan demikian memberi kesan besar. Bagaimana kita harus menepisnya? Bagaimana kita harus mematahkannya? https://aidcnews.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/l...tu-untuk-jawab/ https://aidcnews.wordpress.com/2016/02/08/l...2-b-dana-israelAIDCNews- 08/2/16 –Jika sebelum ini Pertubuhan Minda dan Sosial Prihatin (PMSP) menuntut DAP menjelaskan isu RM1.2 billion dana Israel sepertimana yang didedah oleh bekas aktivis DAP, Mohamed Razali Abd Rahman, kini desakan yang sama turut dibuat oleh Persatuan Mukabuku Pulau Pinang. Setiausaha Persatuan Mukabuku Pulau Pinang Muhsin Lateef menuntut agar Setiausaha Agung DAP, Lim Guan Eng tidak berdiam diri dalam isu itu sebaliknya mempunyai keberaniaan untuk menyaman Razali jika dakwaannya tidak benar. Desakan itu dibuat semasa ketika sekumpulan Persatuan Mukabuku Pulau Pinang berhimpun sambil membawa plakad ‘bilion RM1.2’ di luar rumah terbuka Tahun Baru Cina Ketua Menteri Pulau Pinang di Arena SPICE di Bayan Lepas hari ini.
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and85rew
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Mar 8 2016, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(hypervisor @ Mar 8 2016, 10:08 AM) so what kind of counter-argument that LKS going to use this time? cmon la macai, its already on roketkini. com looking at LKS's reply in roketkini is realy topkek, he seems dont have clue on how to smash on that Yahudi accusation.. why dont just take legal action in court? easy peasy if nothing to hide http://www.roketkini.com/2016/02/20/dap-50...ngorak-langkah/Penipuan terbaru terhadap DAP adalah berkaitan tuduhan kononnya Israel memberi tawaran RM1.2 bilion untuk membuka pangkalan tentera laut di Port Dickson. Mengapa mereka mahukan pangkalan berkenaan di sebuah kawasan resort di Port Dickson, saya sendiri tidak dapat menghadamnya. Tetapi penipuan demikian memberi kesan besar. Bagaimana kita harus menepisnya? Bagaimana kita harus mematahkannya? https://aidcnews.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/l...tu-untuk-jawab/ https://aidcnews.wordpress.com/2016/02/08/l...2-b-dana-israelAIDCNews- 08/2/16 –Jika sebelum ini Pertubuhan Minda dan Sosial Prihatin (PMSP) menuntut DAP menjelaskan isu RM1.2 billion dana Israel sepertimana yang didedah oleh bekas aktivis DAP, Mohamed Razali Abd Rahman, kini desakan yang sama turut dibuat oleh Persatuan Mukabuku Pulau Pinang. Setiausaha Persatuan Mukabuku Pulau Pinang Muhsin Lateef menuntut agar Setiausaha Agung DAP, Lim Guan Eng tidak berdiam diri dalam isu itu sebaliknya mempunyai keberaniaan untuk menyaman Razali jika dakwaannya tidak benar. Desakan itu dibuat semasa ketika sekumpulan Persatuan Mukabuku Pulau Pinang berhimpun sambil membawa plakad ‘bilion RM1.2’ di luar rumah terbuka Tahun Baru Cina Ketua Menteri Pulau Pinang di Arena SPICE di Bayan Lepas hari ini. brain 404
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SUShypervisor
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Mar 8 2016, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Mar 8 2016, 10:10 AM) lol macai just lost argument & resort to personal insult typical dap macai
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and85rew
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Mar 8 2016, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(hypervisor @ Mar 8 2016, 10:12 AM) lol macai just lost argument & resort to personal insult typical dap macai if it is true, the malaysia govt/bn surely will go all out on this issue la why ag/police did not do anything? remember zahid said got pakatan leaders involved with LD invasion? now say cannot reveal name now u tellme, that donation is for what? business? fight is? win election? develop sarawak? funny la
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and85rew
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Mar 8 2016, 10:17 AM
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anyway turkey may start ww3 with this silly president in charge
turkey would be dreaming to think they can stand up vs russia
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SUShypervisor
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Mar 8 2016, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Mar 8 2016, 10:16 AM) if it is true, the malaysia govt/bn surely will go all out on this issue la why ag/police did not do anything? remember zahid said got pakatan leaders involved with LD invasion? now say cannot reveal name now u tellme, that donation is for what? business? fight is? win election? develop sarawak? funny la  lol idiot suruh LKS saman ajelah... kau macai bawahan byk sgt pusing2 isu lain knp?
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cracksys
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Mar 8 2016, 10:21 AM
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fuh. reaching new level of laziness.
not even an excerpt pasted.
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and85rew
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Mar 8 2016, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(hypervisor @ Mar 8 2016, 10:17 AM) lol idiot suruh najib saman ajelah... kau macai bawahan byk sgt pusing2 isu lain knp? fixed
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SUSeksk
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Mar 8 2016, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(hypervisor @ Mar 8 2016, 10:08 AM) so what kind of counter-argument that LKS going to use this time? cmon la macai, its already on roketkini. com looking at LKS's reply in roketkini is realy topkek, he seems dont have clue on how to smash on that Yahudi accusation.. why dont just take legal action in court? easy peasy if nothing to hide http://www.roketkini.com/2016/02/20/dap-50...ngorak-langkah/Penipuan terbaru terhadap DAP adalah berkaitan tuduhan kononnya Israel memberi tawaran RM1.2 bilion untuk membuka pangkalan tentera laut di Port Dickson. Mengapa mereka mahukan pangkalan berkenaan di sebuah kawasan resort di Port Dickson, saya sendiri tidak dapat menghadamnya. Tetapi penipuan demikian memberi kesan besar. Bagaimana kita harus menepisnya? Bagaimana kita harus mematahkannya? https://aidcnews.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/l...tu-untuk-jawab/ https://aidcnews.wordpress.com/2016/02/08/l...2-b-dana-israelAIDCNews- 08/2/16 –Jika sebelum ini Pertubuhan Minda dan Sosial Prihatin (PMSP) menuntut DAP menjelaskan isu RM1.2 billion dana Israel sepertimana yang didedah oleh bekas aktivis DAP, Mohamed Razali Abd Rahman, kini desakan yang sama turut dibuat oleh Persatuan Mukabuku Pulau Pinang. Setiausaha Persatuan Mukabuku Pulau Pinang Muhsin Lateef menuntut agar Setiausaha Agung DAP, Lim Guan Eng tidak berdiam diri dalam isu itu sebaliknya mempunyai keberaniaan untuk menyaman Razali jika dakwaannya tidak benar. Desakan itu dibuat semasa ketika sekumpulan Persatuan Mukabuku Pulau Pinang berhimpun sambil membawa plakad ‘bilion RM1.2’ di luar rumah terbuka Tahun Baru Cina Ketua Menteri Pulau Pinang di Arena SPICE di Bayan Lepas hari ini. bukan ini security issue? why isn't Malaysia government taking action against DAP and LKS? Gunalah SOSMA ke, Sedition act ker, takut kat yahoodee ar?
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arubin
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Mar 8 2016, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(hypervisor @ Mar 8 2016, 10:08 AM) so what kind of counter-argument that LKS going to use this time? cmon la macai, its already on roketkini. com looking at LKS's reply in roketkini is realy topkek, he seems dont have clue on how to smash on that Yahudi accusation.. why dont just take legal action in court? easy peasy if nothing to hide http://www.roketkini.com/2016/02/20/dap-50...ngorak-langkah/Penipuan terbaru terhadap DAP adalah berkaitan tuduhan kononnya Israel memberi tawaran RM1.2 bilion untuk membuka pangkalan tentera laut di Port Dickson. Mengapa mereka mahukan pangkalan berkenaan di sebuah kawasan resort di Port Dickson, saya sendiri tidak dapat menghadamnya. Tetapi penipuan demikian memberi kesan besar. Bagaimana kita harus menepisnya? Bagaimana kita harus mematahkannya? https://aidcnews.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/l...tu-untuk-jawab/ https://aidcnews.wordpress.com/2016/02/08/l...2-b-dana-israelAIDCNews- 08/2/16 –Jika sebelum ini Pertubuhan Minda dan Sosial Prihatin (PMSP) menuntut DAP menjelaskan isu RM1.2 billion dana Israel sepertimana yang didedah oleh bekas aktivis DAP, Mohamed Razali Abd Rahman, kini desakan yang sama turut dibuat oleh Persatuan Mukabuku Pulau Pinang. Setiausaha Persatuan Mukabuku Pulau Pinang Muhsin Lateef menuntut agar Setiausaha Agung DAP, Lim Guan Eng tidak berdiam diri dalam isu itu sebaliknya mempunyai keberaniaan untuk menyaman Razali jika dakwaannya tidak benar. Desakan itu dibuat semasa ketika sekumpulan Persatuan Mukabuku Pulau Pinang berhimpun sambil membawa plakad ‘bilion RM1.2’ di luar rumah terbuka Tahun Baru Cina Ketua Menteri Pulau Pinang di Arena SPICE di Bayan Lepas hari ini. This isn't even worth my time for a reply. Might as well say UMNO are neo-nazis who sacrifice the blood of infant children to Shoggoth. That is equally plausible and makes just as much sense too.
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