greetings,

my sister's son pmr result:

bahasa melayu > c
bahasa inggeris > d
matematik > e
sains > c
sejarah > d
geografi > c
kemahiran hidup bersepadu pilihan 1 > c
pendidikan ialam > e

wanna ask from valued forummers,

1. from dis result did he pass de exam or not? coz at de end of de slip there was no grading. yet he can continue to go to form 4.

2. would my sister's son later gets a pmr certificate, u know the one with results printed on thick paper?

3. what kind of courses dat he can take next year in form 4?

4. can he get a reasonable job in future with dis kind of result?

5. is it de practice of de education ministry nowadays to allow students with such result to continue to form 4? if so, what do u think is de reason?

during my school years, dat exam was called lower certificate of education and if students gets dis kind of result during my time, de students failed.

my head's blur right now. can't lay out proper questions. hope forummers can understand. dis is sumthing sad for me to greet year 2007.

thanks in advance.

well....i think it should be a pass. E is still a passing grade i think, not too sure though so long as its not a G. was years ago since i sat dat exam.

D is pass while E is fail.

So he wont get any certificate for the Pmr exam.

he will go to the art stream, maybe account class or art class.

erm. is there such a thing that you are not qualified for SPM (a.k.a. form 4 and form 5) ?

i dont think so wor..

edit: but yeah. i think he'll most probably go for art stream.

This post has been edited by emiwy: Dec 28 2006, 08:26 PM

1. Yeah, E is considered a fail.

2. I'm not sure about this, but let's follow what one of the users said.

3. Art stream [commerce]. Science stream is definitely out of the question; there is a minimum amount of As you have to meet for that, the minimum differs with each school.

4. People rarely try to get jobs with their PMR results...it's their SPM results that will truly make a difference. Employers are only interested in at least SPM results for jobs nowadays.

5. Yeah, all students automatically advance to Form Four regardless of their PMR results. Secondary school education is not over for them, and does not end after PMR.

Don't worry too much about your nephew. Many people have done badly for their PMR, and made a comeback for their SPM. Who knows, he might end up getting decent results for his SPM. =) Employers won't care about his PMR results then, if he has scored well for his SPM, which is definitely more important.

even if ur relative fail PMR...he can go form 4 and sit PMR that year. it has been done before. my fren had a delay. school allowed him to sit PMR while he studied form 4/ so no worries

but about what stream, no hope for science and try not to take akaun

take EST, Art and thats it if i were ur relatibe

sent him to a vokasional school.....acedemic...might not suitable for him...he should studying something practical...if he likes it...

i think still pass.. what i know if BM u get kredit so u pass.. what i kno la..
4 art streem, he acualy can dicide him self, But if that school already make a min quali. 2 enter science streem, cant do any thing... but its not end of world, im art strem studant (accountig) but now take enginering course....

ya i agree.. make sure its vokasional, not teknik, cos teknik have 2 take add math, fizik n kimia.. if he can do it, go on....

well is he TOO lazy or really not for him?
if not for him, cant help. find his other talent but if lazy, go roast him

dont say like that... mayb he realy didnt intrested study, some people more like practical.... like me

i am not looking down on him..dont get me wrong
but if he just too lazy go DOTA 24/7 and get that result, if he my son, i will skin the fella alive

i think next year no more EST already

hahaha like "RIKA" in bawang putih awng ijau. haha..

EST will still be there...
even though now maths and science is in english already, EST still exists,
and its a good news anyway, a FREE A for spm..

ya i also think same thing... i think i wana take SPM math paper back...

Lol, i usually get EST 95 and above, english i best in class, one of the public speaking competitors at that time, New South Wales English Test, i got 97th percentile in the whole country and 100th percentile (highest grading in my school)

SPM EST i get B3. like WTFFFFF. All those with worse english than me got A1. Looks like if your english too good and examiner dun understand what the heck he reading, he gives u low grade.

But thats off topic. (and 2 years ago)

Now, back to topic, the dude will prob go art stream with those marks, no way any school will allow him to go science.

Find out why he not doing well. If cuz lazy or bad company u know the drill. If he says he doesnt like the subjects (if he doesnt want to study then go kill himself, how to succeed, truly succeed in life?)

If he say he dun like his subjects, then arts is the way to go, try going into something more artistic like painting, acting, etc.

What ever it is, must buck up. Not to say no future for him, but in the world where it is getting more and more competitive, must buck up. PMR results not so important for getting on in life. SPM is, and then your diploma and stuff. So its not too late.

ya... what important is dont ever stop study...

thanks a lot, dear forummers. i really appreciate ur guidance.

don't know how to describe, is he lazy to study or other problems. actually he is quite smart, only naughty. u know la, de active type. always in trouble one.

i wud advice him to do better next time & his mother too.

thanks again.

My PMR RESULT

ENGLISH - A
B.Melayu - C
Maematik - D
Sains - C ------ Kerja Kursus ------ Cemerlang
Sejarah- D----Kerja Kursus---- Cemerlang
Geografi - C---Kerja Kursus--- Memuaskan
Kemahiran Hidup----C-- Kerja Kursus----Kepujian


So wondering how izzit.....I want to know how others result is...
Plz do post ur Result here that have taken PMR this Year !!

sorry to say but ur result is not good..

ya, not so good, but still ok la..

On the brighter side of things, he didn't fail anything. =)

I pm-ed you before, remember?
Cheras campus worst nia! No one get 8 A's even those took agama!

btw, My PMR RESULT

ENGLISH - A
B.Melayu - C
Matematik - A
Sains - A ---------------- Kerja Kursus ------ Cemerlang
Sejarah - D-------------- Kerja Kursus ------ Cemerlang
Geografi - B------------- Kerja Kursus ------ Cemerlang
Kemahiran Hidup - A --- Kerja Kursus -------Cemerlang


This post has been edited by iPlay: Dec 28 2006, 09:54 PM

Send him my congrats...

not bad..BM and Sejarah is always the tricky one..

wow ur's quit good, but how ur Bm juz can get C other than that, very good result... for sejarah, i dont wana say any things... im also weak in sejarah. keep it up..

thx, btw my school onli 11% 'A' in BM!!!

This post has been edited by iPlay: Dec 28 2006, 10:00 PM

wah.. nowadays students' Bm getting worse eh.. lol. anyway, @TS, if he's naughty, send him to school counsellor.. they could help i think

i wonder why our education standart drop so drastically compare to my time..aaha

but i do think that the friends he made very important coz
i mostly saw fren with bad friends make their studies screw up

agree with u hon.

friends make part of us whether we admit or not. i almost screwed SPm cuz of them. thankfully i left them when i entered college, and now uni, and i'm glad to say i'm above average

my pmr result back in year 2000

BM - B
English - A
Matematik - A
Sains - A
KH - A
Sejarah - B
Geografi - B


Actually PMR is not really important. I mean, just try ur best to achieve an acceptable results through ur secondary school studies. What matters the most, is when u leave highschool for college. Those who gets good results, congrats. Those who did not, do not let that discourages your future studies

btw, i'm currently in 3rd year degree program of networking and computer system.

Good luck guys.

wa all giving results? erm, lets see, mine is....year 2002

All As. so, blueskies, you say education standard dropping not realli true. depending on individual. hehe.

i just get 6As.... in year 2005 ...btw...EST got test book already~

i got 7A in 2004 ..btw why are u guys still studying EST? i thought all the science subjects are in english already?

no, a school counsellor will probably not help. Before he even enter the room already his mind will be negative.

"this is the place where they send the bad kids, they think i'm bad. i dun need help. i can do better myself,. i hate this. etc etc"


u make the kid shut himself up before he even enters place, and make your effort futile.


Instead, get someone, a friend, or someone u know, to speak to him. Not in the teacher-lecturer manner, but as another friend. If got related life experience, the better. The kid will be more open to suggestions, and easier to convert.

also, encourage, instead of deride the child

instead of "you useless piece of sh*t i pay for your education and u bring back mahai results"

try

"i'm disappointed in you. Why? because i know how smart you are, and you can do better than this. U not onli disappointed me, but disappointed everyone who believed in you. Do better next time, and i will reward you"


damn, i shud be a psychiatrist

PMR 2004 for me. Hi-five, Baronic and Aztec! =D We got the same results. Doesn't really matter now though, I'm waiting for my SPM results at the moment now. >_<

My school used to threaten to kick out students who got anything less than 6 As, but apparently it was all bark and no bite.

Anyway, as long as you guys didn't fail anything, and manage to get a handful of As for your PMR, you probably have a shot at Science stream.

This post has been edited by Glassy: Dec 28 2006, 11:21 PM

EST is a kinda crazy subject for me now. Everyone planning not to get it. Because,when you didt get the point. It will really screw up your whole paper geh.. And even science subjects in english,the way of teacher teaching is really

tom_chai, ur result very good ar... last year i also get offer 4 comp system nnetworking in KPTM, i didnt go... how ur study???

thats true..i mean most of the teachers teaching the science subjects cant teach in english from what my form4 friends told me..and my school is considered to be located at one of the upperclass area of KL.. but i studied all my science subjects in BM..

For PMR, get 8As baru kira good.

9As would be the best, actually. Remember that Bahasa Arab is also a subject.

Yep~ Sometimes i dont even know what they are pronouncing..when the teachers are stuck..BM version is alive again..Sorry to say that..but we students are sufering with this kind of condition~

I was a 2004 PMR student too xD but i got 8

anyway, i realized this year's BM is a bit tricky. my mum's friend's son got 7A's and 1C, which happens to be BM.

weird.

PMR 2004,got straight As
34 students scored straight As in my school this year..back in 2004,it was around 30..
not much difference then

This post has been edited by ^mtv^: Dec 28 2006, 11:50 PM

even degree holders find it hard to get job nowadays.So, u cant expect SPM holders to find jobs with nice pays.Your nephew still has a long way to go.Advice him now and discuss with him about his future.Ask him what he's gonna do if he happen(miraculously) to be in science stream..and what he'll do if he got arts.Well,he still have to take modern maths right?So there's no way out.
Tell him that if he gets 10A1 for his SPM, there is a chance for a JPA scholarship...and for that he has to change his studying methods and attitude.U can't really underestimate a person's talent with exam results...
There's no point at looking back..It is about time he decides what is next for his future.
Best way, is to ask him directly.
I have known ppl who scored excellently in SPM but slapped with bad CGPA's in their STPM....and students who are not straight A's achievers in their SPM shined so well in their STPM,defeating the ex-top achievers.
So, it depends on aptitude and attitude.

More and more people score good grades...But u know why?
bec the MOE are lowering the marking scheam ler

wahahaha perhaps perhaps. though i prefer to think otherwise.

His results look pretty bad . But then again he passed it since he got a C for his BM . It's standard that as long as the student passes his BM , he's eligible to receive a certificate . There's no chance for him in going into Science classes though. So Art subjects are mainly his only choices . If you know some poeple in his school maybe you could pull a few strings .

For jobs , usually they'll only look at your SPM results and degrees . So don't really bother about his PMR results . They're just for decorations .

This post has been edited by kean89: Dec 29 2006, 01:06 AM

wow... leme post my bad result...
BM -B
BI- A
MATH - A
SC - A
SEJ - B -cemerlang
GEO - B -cemerlang
KH PILIHAN 4 - B (i hate account) -cemerlang
BC - B

3As 5Bs
so guys... can i masuk pure science class?
or sub science oni...

yes, u r eligible for pure science...Dun have to worry..Since u have A's in both maths and science..Congrats!~

How come this question come all the way here pulak

Wouldn't it be easier for you to ask directly from the headmaster/mistress?

IMO, he should be able to make it to form4
Some of my classmates (last time) failed more than your sister's son and they made it through.

This post has been edited by Jackie-Cham: Dec 29 2006, 01:12 AM

wow... happy happy can go pure science... but i heard tat my skewl say onli 6As n above entitle to masuk pure science wor.... takutnya

well...U gotta ask again...In my opinion,u certainly deserve a place in science stream.Or perhaps your school is too strict?
Ask your teacher a.s.a.p.
This truly amazes me.I had a classmate who merely got into science just beacuse he passed...and his results were next to failing grades!!..But he still made it into science.
If he can..why can't u?

dude i gotta agree with you on this, i got a B as well for my est and it never came across me that i will get this kind of results previously. est was one of the easiest subject and so i was shocked to see my grades for that particular subject.
i guess you are right, if they dont understand, they will just fail you or lower your grades

yhey juz wana 'gempak' u onli lor... btw u got good result

My teacher always mention that EST standard is kinda high~ WOndering liu~

but not counted...only if you want to futher your subject in Islamics studies

talking abt est... Sigh....

Nope, the standard is not high, but it's stupid. No capital letter, minus mark. No full stop, minus marks. WTF was that?

Bayangkan lah... There is 1 upper 6 in my fren's skul who got a gold medal award for the south pacific region in an english test by university of new south wales. He's among the best speaker n has been an award winning school debater for dunno 6 years i think. N his spm est got only A2. WTF?

Can i go to sub-science with Maths 'A' and Science 'C'?

depands on the skewl gua.... u can try to apply btw....

This post has been edited by DiCalto: Dec 29 2006, 01:11 PM

hi there !
I have 4a 4b for my pmr result.

BM - B
KH - B
Geo - B
BC - B

Maths - A
Science - A
BI - A
Sej - A

so i wonder if i can enter science class ? I heard rumour about only 5a or above can enter science class.

its all school dependent. My school last time must have all A only can enter science stream, first class. After that, if dun have all A, u enter science stream second class, which has accounts also, so its sorta a bit like arts. After that is pure arts class

muahaha it depend on school...... last time i took Acc, Comerce, Ad math, n science.....

If by "high standards" you're referring to the minimum score of 85 and above for an A1, then I guess that's something to grumble about. But the again, Modern Maths requires the same score for an A1, and I don't see many complaints about that.

But EST is all about answering with the right techniques, which many students and teachers are ill-equipped in, considering it's a relatively new subject. Just because you have the content and points nailed down correctly, doesn't mean it'll get you marks.

And yeah, like another user mentioned, it has a very fussy marking scheme, cutting marks and disregarding your answers here and there, which I don't think I will delve further into.

With bad results, you probably wont get into pure science stream but you can appeal for the pure science stream in the first few weeks of school. Usually, they do have spaces in the pure science classes because of the students going for the 'sekolah berasrama penuh'. With that in mind, you probably should appeal to enter into the pure science classes if you really want to but sub-science should be okay as well(biology replaced by accounts).

yay I got straight A's(7) in my PMR 2004

my friend got all c in his subject but 1 A in his science still can got into science stream...lol. and of course his results from that class is not good.

Seriously...its all up to your school.
During my time,a lot of students got straight As for PMR ,so,they didn stream the students...instead they let the students decide..if those want to be in Pure Sci,they'll get it.But of course,the teacher will look at their results whether they are qualified or not.
So,in the end,there were 5 best classes,those top students from Form 3 were each put in those 5 classes.So,to be the best of the best ,we have to compete among these 5 classes

But to be in Science stream...students should at least get A for Maths and/or Science.Shouldn get C or below for any subjects.

Bachelor Of Technology (Computer system and engineering).

Kinda challenging i must say. It's mostly programming and network management, transmission. We also get to learn those CISCO thingy. So if you don't like programming, stay away from it

I only get 7A or my pmr.......2006 pmr student here.....

wow thats good...sure can get thru to science school

7A good enough already la unless you took 8 subjects..i only took 7..nyahaha

Whoa, you guys quite good eh. I only managed to get 6As in PMR 1997. Not many people get straight As during my time. Congrats to all and study harder for SPM

I get 8 subject but i get B for my chinese.....lolz

I think there's not much constructive input going on here, so thread is close to avoid further spamming. Congrats to all who obtained good results, and good luck to your future undertakings in form 4.