Hey guyz...I would like to know what is the purpose of buying a PDA phone?? and how actually do u use it for ur daily task?? Appointment? Checking Market Stock etc??

do u find it convenient carrying it around without worrying ur PDA being steal by somebody?! Is PDA today really an essential for u or u just buy it for the sake of enjoying the technology??

if don't mind..can u tell me how much u earn and what position r u in co-operate?

remember to state down ur PDA model as well...

This post has been edited by eric84cool: Dec 28 2006, 09:12 PM

Im using the PDA for GPS navigation, notes (always forgetful), games (definitely better than those in phones (symbian or java), watch movies/music, internet, MSN messenger via wireless
btw, i'm using O2 XDA IIs

huh?!games?!don't u feel it abit irritating when u need the pointer to press the screen ???

The stylus is actually making navigation much easier than using directional pad in conventional phones without touch screen. However, one might argue that it is just personal preference. Here comes the good part of pda, as one can use the directional pad for navigation as well.

Student here,

Primary use is the schedule. As a uni student and constantly changing tutorial times and lessons, as well as extra additional block teacher with odd times, (8.00am-9.00am, next class 3.pm-4.00pm) i find a pda essential to remember when my class is. It reminds me one hour before classes with an alert, and i can easily set and change my schedule. Also, when arranging meeting with frens and all, i can double check if i busy or not. much easier than carrying a huge organiser around.

Secondary use is HEAVY GAMING BABEH!! Pdas have absolutely superb games, if u choose the right games. i'm a serious heavy gamer, and i can say i play 90 percent of all pda games in the market already (no interest in porn games mar)

Tertiary use is a mobile movie device. convert into small .avi with smart movie converter (google it) and then can see movies on my pda! but i usually put stuff like simsons i download of the net, and futurama or drawn together

My reasons for using a PDA phone are about the same as you.

Used to use a paper organizer but the amount of editing that i did wasn't very good for paper. =.=''
So switched to a Windows Mobile and all is well (take note that the Palm OS calendar is NO MATCH for the Windows Mobile calendar)

I'm studying and working part-time at a well-established international publisher that requires good organizing of my time.
So yes, it is essential to me.

This post has been edited by shockk: Dec 28 2006, 08:45 PM

EMmmm....for Baronic...maybe it's essential for u but for me, I still can remember it...unless if i have hectic schedule...then i might consider to have one too...i don't find playing game on PDA is sounds interesting to me...wouldn't it cause damage to ur PDA as well as shorten ur PDA life span???

anyways, who is the one choose the CEO income status??i would like to know...

This post has been edited by eric84cool: Dec 28 2006, 09:03 PM

Eh i own a pda,
I'm plannin to use it for surfing
i do own a lappy and has wifi too
the reason i got the pda phone was for surfing,cos sometimes i might be looking for just a lil' bit of info and i don't want to go through the trouble of getting the lappy outta my bag and on it and off it, it's kinda bothersome.
With a pda ,u can just buka the wifi and hook on
Btw im studying in a uni,Sometimes it help to keep u entertain like games and e books.
One down side, battery lasts 2 days
Btw if u ran outta battery while surfing for some important info, im sure ur pda will be much of a use.
My lappy last +/- 3 hours on wifi.
Third party software help u keep track of ur expenditure.
Bout the navigation thing havent really tried it out, dunno how to use , might be tryin it in the future.
BTW Pda phone now are much more value for money than normal hp, for less than 1k,u can get new / 2nd hand pda phones,
Reccomended pda phones are ranged between 1.5k to 2.5k
All the best dude

student,bought it thinking i could use it for many things,turn out got bored with it.
used to play games on it(actually only 1 game,since i only found the shooting games worth playing)-recently switched to the psp...pwns pda/hp gaming anyday MGS FTW!!

now i mainly use my pda for wifi and alarm.

ipaq rx3417

A lot of PDA phones out there can take the beating.
By the time it actually gets damaged, it is probably time to buy a newer PDA phone already.

Also, carrying your phone and a PDA together with you everyday can be really quite tedious and 'ma fan'.

to some,maybe most,yeah

but want to know what i carry with me everyday?
phone+pda+psp+camera+wallet+car keys.

leave out any one of these,i'll feel naked

Whoa. What kind of pants and shirt you must wear to carry all those?

Or just t-shirt and short pants enough?

when i had only my phone,wallet,and pda,used a pouch.

then changed to cargo pants

now can bring anything anywhere,without any problems.

only thing is,if i go to the cinema,i risk being searched
but been to gsc 1 u,luckily they didnt frisk me..

when the staff found out that u have loads of gadget..their 1st expression on the face ---->

I get a lil worried having my gadgets in my cargo pockets. Those near you knees can be quite clumsy in tight situations. Would want to knock my devices around. But I guess after doing that for a while, subconciously you tend to adjust you body....

i whack my gadgets(unintentionally,ofcourse) almost everyday
against the walls,my cats's cages,the car door,you name it..since it swings here and there(the pockets) it's hard to control them
but most worried bout the psp...the others either have a thick cover or is already in a bad situation

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Dec 28 2006, 09:47 PM

GPS and ToDo list currently.

lol, my schedule quite hectic lor. Cuz i need to remember wat time classes are, since i go home, i need to know which week classes canceled, or moved to another date and venue.

Oh, i forgot to add, my PRIMARY PRIMARY use of pda is now GPS navigation. Gf studies far away in TAR college, and without GPS i dieded. Even with GPS i took a few wrong turnings, but hey, after my first try, no more wrong turnings (taking a wrong turning 3 times, forcing u on the highway with a jam, wasting 15 mins per time tends to make u remember)

PDA gaming will not damage your pda. If u find PDA games boring, then u need recommendation

Some notable ones,
The Quest
Worms World Party
3D Pool
Everquest series
Pocket UFO (freeware, and i find it most addictive)
and more, there's already a PDA gaming thread. more details there.

hmmm, i dun carry my pda around often. I bring it in the car, leave it there, and bring it with me when i go for classes to take down work or any changes. (also take it anywhere i know i'll be bored, people giving lectures and speeches, i'm kicking alien butt on my PDA muahahaha)No need pockets and all that, get a good krussel pouch and hang at belt lor. or if u have something super slim like Hp Ipaq 4150, u can slip in into your breast pocket easily, no fuss.

hey...BARONIC...which PDA model r u using? About the GPS navigation, how much u pay for the service??under which telco company? I wondering whether normal phone can use this kind of service or not?

I carry both my Zire 72s and Sony Ericsson K750i with me whenever i go... Both are my essential companions for work as well as pleasure (games, MP3, taking pix, etc.)... And coupled with Bluetooth, this makes things a near perfect mix!

Too bad the Zire has no WiFi though...

er, I think this question has been answered gazillion times in this section.. nontheless, gps usage is free but u need to have gps receiver be it in SD, CF or bluetooth type.. to know more, visit www.wikipedia.com

Im using a O2 Mini as well as carry around my k800i

to be honest, without my Mini, my uni life would be crap . but now adays my psp takes up the spot where my o2 mini used to reside in

I'm newbies here...perhaps do u mind to show me some pic or link for clearer view??

generally i carry PPC, GSM phone, CDMA phone, Pager, or Analog phone.

Mainly for work~

I bought a 2nd hand PDA just for the fun of trying what's it like using a PDA. I would say it's tedious My PDA has been lying at home now

Well, looks like many of us middle-level managers and students here have PDAs eh... I only started using a handheld very "gao-gao" when i started work, to be honest... During student days (Palm III era), the handheld was mainly for taking short notes or timetable and most of the time, it was not heavily used... Which is why the AAA batteries can actually last a month!

In contrast, when it comes to working, usage really shot up and getting five days on a single charge is considered an achievement!

I'm using Dopod p100. Not the correct thread to discuss GPS. Last time when i was totally noob reagarding GPS, i opened a thread, and it was quite enlightening. U can find the thread here.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=359867&hl=GPS

Anything else maybe can try PM me. dun wanna head people's thread offtopic

Lol, i'm very interested to use my PDA with the microsoft outlook. But never use outlook, and i use gmail all this while. so ma like that lor, else i sure use it. but dunno how to use.

I also use microsoft word for sometimes when i wanna write poetry

wahhh......u must be carry lotsa of gadget for ur backpack

Somebody prefer to have all-in-one device....I would like to know why about yours?your Z72s can't make call rite and at the sametimes no WIFI??Emm...then u must be pretty use it for gaming and manage schedule??

hohoho..don't worry..it's my thread...I didn't know GPS needs to have receiver....I tot it's provided by telco when u apply their service...maybe when the time I have PDA...then only I will consult from u...anyways, which PDA is worth of money at the moment?? Don't want to have 3G as I think if need 3G...it costs extra money for purchase and services....

haha.. interesting topic. at first, i swap my phone with my friend's ppc was just intend to gain girl's attraction, as i think it might makes me more impressive

actually not much attraction gained.. but i fell in love with it. yes, i use it as a schedule organizer, mp3 player, msn, encyclopedia, dictionary, remote control... and most importantly, i use it to check match results.

so this is how i love my ppc.

btw, i just finished my form 5, and i'm using hp h6365 ppcpe.. (old device.. wanted upgrade long time but no economy support..)

This post has been edited by icycokes: Dec 29 2006, 12:44 PM

Well, it has no WiFi but for that, i have my trusty ThinkPad to keep me company ... But yups, the Z72s mostly for my schedule, tasks planner, memo jotter, dictionary, DocsToGo, and also for entertainment (games, music, camera)... At the same time, the SE phone is a backup to the Zire when it comes to other contact details as well as communicator...

I may consider getting an all-in-one device though, but not at this moment yet...

This post has been edited by ClieNut Gadget Freak: Dec 29 2006, 12:43 PM

oh..iszit?!then which model is ur target???I'm at 1st looking forward to buy O2 XDA II mini S but then they said the model is not available here...so sad....i wanted to have that model..nice design with feature...any model which is similar to the model I mentioned or not?

Dopod 838 is the non-identical twin of XDA mini S

Well, i actually have no plans as yet... I'm happy with my current setup and i don't think i will be going for a PDa-phone for now...

I don't have a PDA phone. But I desire one, easy to keep reminders, appointments, notes, to-dos and surf the net while your gf is shopping for clothes Yes, all of these can be done with a simple PDA but its kinda hard to hold a PDA and a phone at the same time. So, its best to have an all in 1...PDA phone

Now, I have a PDA (gift). Like I said just now, its difficult to carry it around. Although the screen is bigger, nicer to surf on the net or view pictures...its also bulkier, can only fit into my back pocket

I also have a notebook...but its ridiculus to carry that around. So damn heavy only keep it at home, where is (quite) safe.

don't buy 02 Mini...I tried my cousin's...quite old model. Difficult to use. If you're gonna get a PDA Phone, get a new one or something.

let me see if i can put it in a nutshell.

imagine space. imagine hundreds of satelites floating in space. these satelites help detect where u are. thats GPS, Global Positioning Satellite.

Using GPS, is totally FREE. there is no telco, nothing. its just...u need something to access those satelites.

Some PDA has inbuilt GPS receiver, for those which dont, u need to buy an external GPS receiver lor. so got telco althose stuff wan

If still hard to imagine, think of GPS like BlUETOOTH. BLUETOOTH is a connection, no telcos right? but to use BLUETOOTH u need a bluetooth capable device. If your device not capable, u gotta buy a USB bluetooth doogle. like that lor, GPS .

My recommendation in terms of pricing and best buy, i say go for Dopod p100

got wi-fi, good size, in built GPS.

Now that u have an idea what GPS is and works, u need a software that has maps, to correctly place u on it. Cuz if u dun have software, just have the GPS part, sure, satelite can detect u, but then? so u need maps. These mapping software are the stuff u must pay. However, malsing maps are free maps u can get lor.

lol, i using k800i with dopod p100, which is not a pda phone. i prefer standalone pda. pda phone, battery finish faster.

I'm using O2 Atom and Nokia 6630 always carry this gadget everywhere i go use PDA for work and business

Oh ok, isn't the K800i the one with the CyberShot phone feature? I remember seeing a large billboard promoting this SE phone in KL Sentral yesterday...

And yeah, that is the MAIN reason why i don't plan to get a PDA-phone for now... Mainly due to the battery and furthermore, i am the type who keeps the phone on 24-hours standby (emergency reasons)... If this is done on a PDA-phone, i dunno how many times i have to charge the phone in a week!

Im using it to make my daily schedule and appointments easier to remember.. since im a teacher.. the pda is an essentials for everyday use.. my lesson notes, my teaching periods.. my meetings.. courses.. you name it.. Its worth the money to own one!

oh.....the current PDA-Phone can last for how long???for a normal user...maybe that's the factor to consider...worth to consider too....hehehe

My PDA-phone ON 24hours with calls can last roughly 2.5days. With BT ON will be much less might even be 1day+. With Wifi ON? Haha.... matter of hours.....

I use Asus p525 PDA Phone, under power saving mode. normal use for call, playing music, surfing (check e-mail, read news, check mysapace comments). It can last at least one day (morning till midnight) cause I always travel from Sarawak to Johor.in one single charge.

lol, lets say u use a bit of wifi, a bit of gaming, a good amount of sms, a few calls, maybe at the end of each day wil have approx 40 percent. so in other words pda phone must charge everyday

Wah, thats y for me susah to use PDA-phone... I work until nighttime and if the phone were to kong out before i'm able to get home, then cham lor... All my data will be wiped-out just like that!

Btw, i normally don't keep my own charger in the office (safety reasons)...

This post has been edited by ClieNut Gadget Freak: Dec 29 2006, 06:37 PM

Emmm..what u guyz adviced just now is needed to consider....normally to recharge the PDA-Phone...how long will it takes?? Just now I met my ex-colleague who is using Asus P525...He felt satisfied with the PDA-Phone and the battery life can last for 2 days without wifi, BT etc.....

highlight your WITHOUT WIFI and WITHOUT BT. probably your fren also WITHOUT games. That means his pda phone, he is really onli using the phone functions onli. (phone also can have organiser)

Thats why he can last long

If u charge PDA, maybe take one hour, if your screen off when charging, to 2 hours. My advice, get a car charger. Very useful especially for me cuz i use GPS also, and GPS is high batt consumption. (3 hours). Car charger is very fast charging. Even while using GPS my PDA shows fully charged lol

Car charger also can help solve ClieNut Gadget Freak's problem

My PDA can last me about 2 days.

I mostly use for 30mins calls, 5-10 sms, about 1 hour of PDA function usage everyday.

I use my I-mate PDA2k ( O2 Xda2s) as
-Phone
-Digicam
-Recorder
-Dictionary (lexisgoo dict, chinese to english dict )
-Movie Player (mp4,mpg,avi,bla bla)
-Audio player (mp3, wma, aac, real audio, bla bla)
-Reference (pocket globe)
-Office software (word,excel,power point)
-Utilities (Pocket artist, mechanics, bla bla)
-Games
-Internet (wifi)

There are so many softwares to name of...all can fit on my 1Gb SD card....wat gadgets i need?

One Ring to rule them all!

dunno if correct thread but need advise la..
thinking real hard what to get..
o2 XDA atom exec, or a k800i + dell axim51

basically i'm a uni student, got loads of stuff to remember, need to jot down on the spot. would be nice to have wifi cause i won't be home most of the day...

at first i thuoght the asus p525 was a nice option. but then the size of it threw me off... and o2 stealth interface not that great and the buttons suck

My PDA purpose to serve me music & videos player.

Its OK to charge PDA using car charger. Because I heard the power was unstable and it can caused damaged to the PDA battery or PDA itself?

so far i have no probs with it lor

I think u should buy O2 instead of dell axim51.....looks...if ur dell axim51 costs u 1.5k (I don't know the market price)..why don't u get laptop?? If axim51 just serves the purpose of surfing, manage schedule, checking dic etc....it's just an extra device which quite fussy to carry on....if the camera quality for o2 is not satisfied...then there is another excuse for u to buy SE K800i..otherwise...u just purchase O2 with backup battery then can laio...

HMM.. THIS is my first pda phone too
i use it for msg and games 1 hr daily like that, phone call once in a while
can last me 2 days too
i thought that was crap when i read this thread again where i see people's pda lasting 1 day
haha
;P

thats what i'm thinking..
cause i'm always moving around so laptop dun wan and somemore to carry 2 gadgets i dun wan la....
looks like its the o2 lo...

I'm using O2 XDA IIi to:-

- keep clients contact
- keep track of my busy schedule, I've lots of press conferences, events and product launches to attend
- note is extremely important to me as I can use it to jot down important points to remember, it is very useful especially during product launches in pubs, sometimes too dark cannot see anything properly, so PDA's backlight is perfect in this condition

But one bad thing about my PDA is the ring volume is too soft, can't even hear a thing in noisy places. Thus, I've to use bluetooth to solve this problem.

Like Baronic, I use my O2 XDA II mini to help me remember all my schedules. I'm pretty forgetful so it really helps.

The PDA is like my everything- mp3 player, phone, bible (I have pocket Bible installed n it), note taker, ebook, game console (currently hooked on bejeweled)

Yups, i have to agree, but it gets ma-fan having to charge the PDA-phone everytime, which is why i am still not planning to get one for this moment... And the good thing about the Z72s-K750i pairing is that both come equipped with a camera-videocam combo... At least to shoot nice pix of this coming 31st fireworks, i have a pair of reliable videocam backups (of course they pale in comparison to a HandyCam, for instance )!

And the Z-K pairing is also an excellent Bluetooth partnership... Pix and data from one can be easily and seamlessly transferred to the other... This is my first time using BT-enabled devices actually...

sorry dude but ur definition of gps is wrong.. AFAIK, there are only 36 (or was it 24?) satelites surrounding the earth for gps n similar reason.. GPS need at least 3 satelites to locate n calculate ur current location.. diffrences of diffrent chipset of gps module is the refresh rate, battery life etc..
my recommendation is to buy a O2 XDA IIs + Bluetooth GPS receiver.. reason behind is
- XDA IIs second hand only retailing around RM1000
- Bluetooth GPS RM250
- switching on GPS will consume a considerable large amount of battery
- a BT gps has its own battery (yes, u might need to charge both PDA n GPS but FYI, i use the BT gps for 3 days of continous usage at langkawi n still doesnt need any recharging.. till now which is 2 weeks edi n i still using gps for some reason
- getting a onboard GPS with PDA will cost u a fortune (i'm still a student)
- XDA IIs got build in keyboard, which is easy for me to msn etc
- XDA IIs have strong hardware n can support WM5.0 which device like XDA mini cant (not smooth due to low profile hardware)

wow.. Bluetooth GPS RM250?
where do you buy it?
i am looking for one also.. the prices i found is btw 350 - 500.. so expensive

Dopod p100 got inbuilt PDA, brand new rm 999. i bought mine second hand at rm 700. not that bad wat

i think lelong.com.my?

nope.. its over 320-599 bucks there..

sorry, that is the price in china
coz i went to china trip n bought it at RMB500, which is +- RM250 here

sirf III chipset memang famous with its battery draining feature
besides, it only have samsung 300MHz, while XDA IIs featuring Intel Xcale 400MHz, P100 only have 64MB ram but XDA IIs have 128MB RAM.. i doubt P100 can support WM5.0.. i think once u install like 20 application, the whole thing will be getting slow like the 1 in mini.. FYI, mini has Intel Xcale 416MHz.. so my point is, the diffrences are there.. juz see whether u r hardcore user or not.. if u r not that hardcore like playing music while surfing net etc, then a P100 will be sufficient.. if u need to run several program, XDA IIs will be better.. oh ya, XDA IIs featuring 3' touchscreen while dopod only 2.8'.. not forgetting XDA IIs has keyboard for MSN

i just can't wait N95 to release... it's way more than a PDA already, the minus is w/o touchscreen... but is there a definition that a Personal Digital Assistant must've a touchscreen-able? well, i can't deny that it's a significant feature that distinguish PDA from other categories... but it's the new version of multimedia assistant... most importantly, the versatility of all these gadgets have weakened the firm definitions of the term. be reminded that the 1 of the most important features as an assistant, it should sync w/ ur computer as its 1st predecessor (Newton) was created to do.

btw, GPS = Global Positioning System (not satellites, duh!)

Dopod P100 is in fact running on WM5 OS

i install a lot of games already, and Dopod p100 already running windows 5 lar. lol. 64 ram is more than enough, and the 300MHz compared to my old pda which was 400Mhz i can see no difference at all. The GPS runs smoothly, games run even SMOOTHER. No problem at all. That small specs dun really mean much realli, cuz PDA also dun need so much power. Unless like u want to like, run a game, minimize it, play music, minimize, open word, minimize, open GPS. Then of course GG lar haha.

But yea, i agree with the Dopod small screen. Thats one of the first things i noticed. But ok lar, boleh tahan.

Key pad ar, i use keypad before its like damn slow. i rather use hand writing recognition

@xyes ya lar u very smart lar

lol, no touch pad has the disadvantage of no handwriting recognition lor. which depending on user, can either be bad, or no diff cuz i know some people dun like to use hand writing. but for me, in the beginning quite hard, lots of mistakes, but practice makes u go damn fast. like writing normally.

Sorry to say but the Symbian OS (N95) is nowhere close to the power and functionality of a Windows Mobile device.
If the Symbian device has no touchscreen, even worse.

Speaking of GPS, who are the providers of this service here in Malaysia? And how much are they charging for monthly subscription fees?

its free to use. no charge for USING the GPS connection. See GPS thread. There're no "providers" , not like wi-fi. its just...free. see la the GPS thread, created d, got asked before this question

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/359867

This post has been edited by Baronic: Dec 31 2006, 01:23 PM

Thanks for the tip, bro!

ya la ya la, ur NIKIA the most powerful satisfied? XD
with the dull looking symbian + over pricing, im sure it is a hit among nikia fanboy

ops, sorry, my bad

hmm, icic.. coz i compare with my friend mini.. in general, the spec in mini is slightly better but mini install few apps start to slow down.. well, this dopod might be the most budjet + gps combo pda phone
but wait, is this a pda-phone? coz it is real cheap if it is.. i wanted to check on dopod website but failed..

edited : juz check that P100 is not a PDA phone.. so thats y the price is quite cheap imo.. if u wana consider pda without phone function, this p100 will be good for price n value

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Dec 31 2006, 02:00 PM

lol, yeah dude, its a pda only. i dun like pda phone. Cuz i sms a lot, so sure not enuf battery to surf and play heavy gaming. plus my GPS usage. Dopod p100 is the only non phone PDA (i think) to have in built GPS. NON-PHONE PDA. thats why its a good buy, in my opinion anyway. no regrets here!

eh, any, idea whats the difference between Q-Tek and Dopod? cuz Q-tek got a model, EXACT clone of Dopod p100. Matter of fact, my dopod p100 using q-tek krussel case. Diff name for diff region or wat?

diffrent place got diffrent name
basically, those models are created by HTC.. then other company rebrand..
examply,
HTC Blue Angel = O2 XDA IIs @ XDA III (in german) = T-Mobile MDA III = IMATE PDA2K something like that
hmm, last time i also like u, i bought a cheap PDA COMPAQ but feel it is not convenient as i need to bring 2 device out.. thinking i've lost 6phones in 5years time, i decide to only take 1 device so i can take care of it seriously.. if got 2, either 1 missing i also dunno XD
so in the end i choose a second hand O2 XDA IIs but the condition is damn superb however i bought for RM1200 but i get full package + 512MB RS-MMC + Leather Pouch (useless as i need to slide down to use the keyboard)
oh ya, another thing.. i do realise that i sai the keyboard are slow? why u say so? i can type as fast as i like when MSN'ing with my friend at STARBUCK or LOWYAT plaza XD
only when SMS, sometimes it cant follow the speed XD
recognisation handwriting is not convenient for me i havent figure out how to fully utilise that feature n sometimes, it does gave u wrong input XD

Ex user of O2 Mini, Xda IIs, P910i, HP4150...I until now also now sure why i need a pda..Haha. My life is not that complicated thus organising my schedule is a joke..

wah liau so many students using it ah??

i use my pda for basic stuff...which normally normal phone cannot

Using Sony SJ33 and SE P910i

mostly for time management, reminder, and dictionary.

gaming when bored

Students i think may need it more than working people.
Working people usually don't need a PDA unless you in sales line or is some CEO (but CEOs have secretaries for this).

Well, I have my old iPaq 2210 lying around but didn't really use much of it because most of the phones these days has calender features. However, I do love the functionality of the PDA for its mobile internet surfing, and email on the move plus with so many hotspots, its a shame not using it. So, I was compelled to buy one but finally did, got my new major upgrade, Dopod 810 and I'm lovin' it. So, time to part my k800i to my sister.

Not bad...3CEO's and a RM15K earner here......

how u noe they are not bluffing? XD

dude..nice debate u have there.....anyways, is the O2 XDA IIs available in the market now?!I mean new unit....if don't have...what would u guyz recommend me to have one PDA with a budget roughly 1 to 1.5k.....ofcoz must the keyboard featured too...hehehe : )

I saw before Amedion selling recently for an authorized unit for about RM2k.

U mean O2 XDA IIs?? waoo...damn expensive la wei......I don't know when can I afford to buy one since I'm student...going to work soon by next month....aikss...

Yeah. I guess because since it's an O2 product and the introductory price was around RM3.5k, they can't really put it down to much less than that.

However, if you were to go for 2nd hand, i would recommend a Dopod 818 Pro that still has at least a few months official distributor warranty left.
Maybe if you are lucky you can find for RM1.5k.

HOhoho...I didn't know that the price for that unit was 3.5k initially....well....will consider about ur recommendation...thx

Why no part time working/student for voting options....
Btw im using the cheap Dallab DP900....im mainly using it for watching movies and during classes as im studying tourist guide course....its really convienient to access all ur notes and ur frens' notes whenever u want...or else i would have to search through a thick pile of papers to find notes for a tourist spot. And i can edit more info more easily.

Im quite used to writting recognition....it works best with small caps...and i use it to take down lecture notes all the time. The rotary cam works as a good mirror
Kinda hate it sometimes as it has no BT and WiFi

i think 2nd hand is lower than that..
i got mine new RM1688 last week.

Maybe the 15k earner is some fellow involved in MLM or online business?

But there are certainly a lot of us in the RM2k to 4k bracket though... And seems like the majority in this range are PDA users eh?

Anybody knows good antivirus for WM5 OS?