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Home Theatre 2nd Gen Toshiba HD DVD (PRICE DROP) now: $330.95, Other model from $290. + 5 FREE HD DVDs

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post Dec 28 2006, 04:30 AM, updated 19y ago

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did some diggin and found that BHPhoto sends the Toshiba next generation DVD player, HD A2 (second generation) to Malaysia (KL/Selangor) for a total price of $623.25 (RM2243.7) including courier charge. After that, get someone from US or Canada (Alamaklor tongue.gif ) to get the three free HD DVD movies from HD DVD promotional group .. rclxms.gif ... anyone can lari cukai .. tips please tongue.gif

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller...rch&Q=&ci=12836

http://thelookandsoundofperfect.com/_pdf/p...ffer_advert.pdf

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and every purchase will also entitle purchasers to get 5 FREE HD DVDs


just wanna point out that HD DVD has reached the street price point of $2**.

wink.gif yupe .. HD DVD's cost affective advantage is showing. biggrin.gif



http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HD-D1-DVD-Pl...3576403&sr=1-10

and the gen2 A2 player is $33* after Amazon Visa discount ... that is like $31 away from the $2** price point. And this is a model that is currently in production wink.gif biggrin.gif

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000IJV4B...3576403&sr=1-10

This post has been edited by g5sim: Mar 11 2007, 09:40 AM
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post Dec 28 2006, 07:51 AM

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They might only take in 110V power.
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post Dec 28 2006, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Dec 28 2006, 07:51 AM)
They might only take in 110V power.
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post Dec 28 2006, 10:05 AM

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That's called a stepdown adaptor if you're using 110V in Malaysia. The HD-DVD player is even cheaper than Denon 2930 dvd player. doh.gif Just can't wait for Toshiba to officially launch it here. cry.gif

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hmm get a power regulator - or what is its name ..  tongue.gif
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post Dec 28 2006, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Dec 28 2006, 10:05 AM)
That's called a stepdown adaptor if you're using 110V in Malaysia. The HD-DVD player is even cheaper than Denon 2930 dvd player.  doh.gif  Just can't wait for Toshiba to officially launch it here.  cry.gif
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yes .. the people at AVS are also crying foul.

I dont think we will see HD DVD here in malaysia. not next year. Do we have the facilities to author and duplicate HD DVD disks in Malaysia? Or are we going to send everything back to the US after censorship by FINAS?

you can try to get the XA1. Its actually cheaper than the 2nd generation A2 now. Sadly, the A1 are sold out, it was like $349 a while ago after Toshiba launched the second generation players rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 28 2006, 10:19 AM

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doesnt the xbox 360 support the hd-dvd too?
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post Dec 28 2006, 10:20 AM

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Well, it's not a problem, I import my HD-DVDs from Lasersedge, USA. I have a few with me, I bought the whole collection for Fast And Furious, Van Helsing, etc. King Kong came free with XBOX 360 HD-DVD add on. I know it's not a proper way to watch HD-DVDs but that's better than nothing I guess, hopefully I can get my hands on Cyberlink's HD-DVD software so that I can give the XBOX 360 HD-DVD add on a test drive since it's supported by the software.

Don't worry about Finas, they can't do anything to censor movies imported from the US because it's impossible but as long as you're not ordering Basic Instinct 2 Blu-Ray, you're safe. sweat.gif



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yes .. the people at AVS are also crying foul.

I dont think we will see HD DVD here in malaysia. not next year. Do we have the facilities to author and duplicate HD DVD disks in Malaysia? Or are we going to send everything back to the US after censorship by FINAS?

you can try to get the XA1. Its actually cheaper than the 2nd generation A2 now. Sadly, the A1 are sold out, it was like $349 a while ago after Toshiba launched the second generation players  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Dec 28 2006, 10:20 AM)
Well, it's not a problem, I import my HD-DVDs from Lasersedge, USA. I have a few with me, I bought the whole collection for Fast And Furious, Van Helsing, etc. King Kong came free with XBOX 360 HD-DVD add on. I know it's not a proper way to watch HD-DVDs but that's better than nothing I guess, hopefully I can get my hands on Cyberlink's HD-DVD software so that I can give the XBOX 360 HD-DVD add on a test drive since it's supported by the software.

Don't worry about Finas, they can't do anything to censor movies imported from the US because it's impossible but as long as you're not ordering Basic Instinct 2 Blu-Ray, you're safe.  sweat.gif
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hahaha .. i mean if we to launch HD DVD officially, we must some how officially have the contents available right. Dont tell me Speedy, Tower are going to import all the titles from USA. What about Pontianak Sundal Harum Malam or Mat Rempit or Cicak Man in HD DVD? shocking.gif
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post Dec 28 2006, 11:11 AM

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Cicak Man? That crap movie, it will be an insult if it's released on DVD IMHO. doh.gif All HD-DVD titles will be from Hollywood and even Hong Kong movies are not available in HD-DVD yet, it will take time but there's nothing wrong to watch hollywood movies on HD-DVD, isn't it?

FYI, Speedy can order HD-DVD titles for you but they're selling RM199.90 or more so if you're smart enough to do the calculations, it's cheaper to order them from the US, I only paid RM110 to RM130 per title including DHL or FedEx shipping to Malaysia. No taxes so far, I ordered 2-4 movies per order.

It will be many years later when you finally get locally produced HD-DVD titles because the authoring equipment is costly, but not as costly as producing Blu-Ray discs. When there are no players available locally, who would wanna produce HD-DVD titles locally, right?

QUOTE(g5sim @ Dec 28 2006, 10:31 AM)
hahaha .. i mean if we to launch HD DVD officially, we must some how officially have the contents available right. Dont tell me Speedy, Tower are going to import all the titles from USA. What about Pontianak Sundal Harum Malam or Mat Rempit or Cicak Man in HD DVD?  shocking.gif
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post Dec 29 2006, 03:35 AM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Dec 28 2006, 11:11 AM)
Cicak Man? That crap movie, it will be an insult if it's released on DVD IMHO.  doh.gif  All HD-DVD titles will be from Hollywood and even Hong Kong movies are not available in HD-DVD yet, it will take time but there's nothing wrong to watch hollywood movies on HD-DVD, isn't it?

FYI, Speedy can order HD-DVD titles for you but they're selling RM199.90 or more so if you're smart enough to do the calculations, it's cheaper to order them from the US, I only paid RM110 to RM130 per title including DHL or FedEx shipping to Malaysia. No taxes so far, I ordered 2-4 movies per order.

It will be many years later when you finally get locally produced HD-DVD titles because the authoring equipment is costly, but not as costly as producing Blu-Ray discs. When there are no players available locally, who would wanna produce HD-DVD titles locally, right?
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they will be release simultanously, no one without the other wink.gif
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post Dec 29 2006, 04:26 AM

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how do I get 3 free hd dvd? I want! biggrin.gif does the ps3 play hd dvd? sweat.gif

oh btw, hd dvd decrypted...anybody want me to send back some copies? DL DVD'+R is only RM4 a piece tongue.gif *HEY HEY NO NAUGHTY TALK!!!* tongue.gif

This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Dec 29 2006, 04:27 AM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Dec 29 2006, 04:26 AM)
how do I get 3 free hd dvd? I want! biggrin.gif does the ps3 play hd dvd? sweat.gif

oh btw, hd dvd decrypted...anybody want me to send back some copies? DL DVD'+R is only RM4 a piece tongue.gif *HEY HEY NO NAUGHTY TALK!!!* tongue.gif
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Actually you get can FIVE free HD DVDs with that price!

The HD DVD north america is offering 3 free HD DVD movies with every purchase of any HD DVD players. Applicable to Canada and USA (limited time offer). Many retailers are offering an additional 2 free HD DVD movies with the purchase. Plus FREE shipping and FREE extended warranty, the total cost of the player would be like $350 shocking.gif making it one of the MOST affordable early adopter toys around.

and NO, the PS3 doesnt play HD DVD movies. You are lucky they even play CD (as the Pioneer Elite and Sony Blu-ray players cant play CD) tongue.gif

3 FREE HD DVD offer form. Just choose your three titles and mail the form to Toshiba.

http://thelookandsoundofperfect.com/_pdf/p...ffer_advert.pdf

This post has been edited by g5sim: Dec 29 2006, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Dec 29 2006, 07:16 AM)
You are lucky they even play CD (as the Pioneer Elite and Sony Blu-ray players cant play CD) tongue.gif
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Hah? Why so stupid to make it not backward compatible?

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QUOTE(kelvinyam @ Dec 29 2006, 07:30 AM)
Hah? Why so stupid to make it not backward compatible?
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i also dunno lah .. but the PS3, Samsung, Philips and Panasonic Blu-ray players do play CDs. Only Sony and Pioneer (both made by Pioneer) cant do CDs
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Oh so there was a catch...I thought you could get 3, literally, free HD DVD. Basically they are giving u CAD150-180 discount (price for 3 good hd dvd title over here) if you get the player.

Yeah I thought so. I didnt think $ony would make the drive compatible with HD DVD, that'd jeorpadize their BD sales kau kau. After all, the BD price is similar to the HD dvd, only thing different are the titles.

I think I did something very smart this christmas tongue.gif I bought a 250gb external hdd and I plan to store all those h.264 1080p movies I downloaded from usenet into it, and have the PS3 play it back. The PS3 could detect external HDD via its usb, and renaming .ts to .mpeg would allow the PS3 to playback the files. Apparently the PS3 has much more processing power than my 3800 X 2...I can playback mpeg2 1080p on my pc no problem, but h.264 1080p pwns my pc kau kau. The usenet cost me 15USD a month, unlimited download at full ISP rated speed.

So here's an analysis:
-Dedicated HD DVDp = $600+ + $30/disc
-PS3 - $500 - $600 + external hdd $100+ + Usenet $15/mo + DL time
-Digital cable/satellite service + HD channel = PVR Box $200 - $500 + Service fee $25 - 50/mo

Can't say which is the best option....I think only option 1 and 2 are available in Msia. Does Astro now broadcast HD content?
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I think you terbalik liao lah, the Pioneer dvd spots the same components as the Sony player, it's made by Sony, not by Pioneer but finishing by Pioneer of course. Pioneer is using Sony's Blu-Ray transport but if it can play CDs originally, it will be the same as the Pioneer player. I guess Pioneer is not too keen to have their own plant to manufacture Blu-Ray drives yet, if this format flops, Pioneer will stand to loose billions. I'm placing my bets on HD-DVD, it seems to be a better format in terms of picture quality and price. I know Blu-Ray could do dual layer and has more storage space but then, most titles are still on single layer, maybe it's due to cost concerns. hmm.gif

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i also dunno lah .. but the PS3, Samsung, Philips and Panasonic Blu-ray players do play CDs. Only Sony and Pioneer (both made by Pioneer) cant do CDs
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Dec 29 2006, 12:15 PM)
I think you terbalik liao lah, the Pioneer dvd spots the same components as the Sony player, it's made by Sony, not by Pioneer but finishing by Pioneer of course. Pioneer is using Sony's Blu-Ray transport but if it can play CDs originally, it will be the same as the Pioneer player. I guess Pioneer is not too keen to have their own plant to manufacture Blu-Ray drives yet, if this format flops, Pioneer will stand to loose billions. I'm placing my bets on HD-DVD, it seems to be a better format in terms of picture quality and price. I know Blu-Ray could do dual layer and has more storage space but then, most titles are still on single layer, maybe it's due to cost concerns.  hmm.gif
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It has been confirmed that that Pioneer is designing and manufacturing the Sony Blu-ray Disk player. I am not saying that that all HD DVD titles are better is PQ but they are more consistent as compared to BD. There are people saying that some BD look great on Sony and Pioneer via 1080p24. However, HD DVD's is surely a killer. Blu-ray Disk players just couldnt justify the x2 price tag. Double layer BD movies are already out. Mission Impossible Ultimate Collection 4-disk set for example.

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Yeah I thought so. I didnt think $ony would make the drive compatible with HD DVD, that'd jeorpadize their BD sales kau kau. After all, the BD price is similar to the HD dvd, only thing different are the titles.


Sony WILL only produce anything HD DVD if Blu-ray Disk is dead and burried.
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The only time sony admitted defeat and publicly announced that was when they decide to start supporting mp3 format for their DAPs, but their ATRAC aint dead though. Same for the BD, it wont be dead unless the PS3 is dead, they might admit defeat and start taking in HD DVD, but as long as the ps3 survives, BD stuff will still be produced. BD is a pretty good technology, the disc can hold up to 8 layers double sided, 400gb laugh.gif and the prices and cost will drop slowly...it's a common thing in business anyway, high prices at the beginning to recover their R&D, production cost is actually very low. I think the reason why HD dvd may be more successful is because it is not really a new technology, it's just an upsized DVD. Like CD -> XRCD. SACD and BD are distinctly different technology.

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Dec 28 2006, 11:11 AM)
FYI, Speedy can order HD-DVD titles for you but they're selling RM199.90 or more so if you're smart enough to do the calculations, it's cheaper to order them from the US, I only paid RM110 to RM130 per title including DHL or FedEx shipping to Malaysia. No taxes so far, I ordered 2-4 movies per order.
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There's a shop in Cineleisure Mutiara Damansara that is selling HD DVD starting from RM139 for the US$20 amzon titles and around RM170 for the US$25-28 ones. I just received a package from amazon a few days ago with 7 HD DVDs and 2 CDs. No tax laugh.gif

Hopefully can avoid taxes for the 360 add-on player when I get it tomorrow sweat.gif

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Any particular reason why you ordered from lasersedge? The prices there are more expensive compared to amazon.....

This post has been edited by arj: Dec 30 2006, 03:04 AM
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QUOTE(arj @ Dec 30 2006, 02:48 AM)
There's a shop in Cineleisure Mutiara Damansara that is selling HD DVD starting from RM139 for the US$20 amzon titles and around RM170 for the US$25-28 ones. I just received a package from amazon a few days ago with 7 HD DVDs and 2 CDs. No tax laugh.gif

Hopefully can avoid taxes for the 360 add-on player when I get it tomorrow sweat.gif

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Any particular reason why you ordered from lasersedge? The prices there are more expensive compared to amazon.....
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over RM500 then u sure kenak taxed. so count the value is RM before pressing the 'submit' button. tongue.gif

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