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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V11!

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post May 24 2016, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(Lordz` @ May 24 2016, 12:51 AM)
Got an offer around 1700. If so PSU has to upgrade as well right?
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No need.

QUOTE(sniperz @ May 24 2016, 07:00 AM)
Besides the suggested 960 GTX and R9 380, any graphic specs lower around RM699?
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GTX950 Single Fan version from Zotac or Palit.
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post May 24 2016, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ May 24 2016, 11:18 AM)
After try to meddling around with the hardware and the price, this is the more likely the final setup. Sifu can give opinions on what can be improved on the performance wise.
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How much is the Gigabyte GTX950? If it is too close to RM 800 then you better top up RM 50 for Zotac GTX960 instead.

The PSU is kinda overpriced, you could get a much better quality PSU with its price tag though.
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ May 24 2016, 11:31 AM)
So far cheapest I saw is Rm715. Any suggestion for the PSU?

i5 6600K - 825
Cooler Master 212 Evo - 169
Gigabyte Z170 - 375
HyperX Fury DDR4 (4GBx2) - 189
Gigabyte GTX950 Xtreme - 715
Corsair CX650M - 285
NZXT S340 - 325

Total - 2883
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6600K for RM 825 and Gigabyte Z170 (unknown model) for RM 375? shocking.gif

Does the price include GST?

For RM 300+/- range, you can go for Seasonic M12II EVO 520W (full modular).

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post May 24 2016, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ May 24 2016, 11:46 AM)
Damn, mistaken it with AMD list.

i5 6600K - 966
Cooler Master 212 Evo - 169
Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P - 729
HyperX Fury DDR4 (4GBx2) - 189
Gigabyte GTX950 Xtreme - 715
Corsair CX650M - 285
NZXT S340 - 325

Total - 3378
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Oh ok, I thought 6600K has a massive price drop laugh.gif
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post May 24 2016, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Lordz` @ May 24 2016, 11:54 AM)
Sorry bro i mean do i need to change the power supply unit?

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No need if you are going to get Seasonic S12II/M12II EVO 620W.
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post May 24 2016, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ May 24 2016, 01:04 PM)
The M12II 520W is semi modular but my friend is using Seasonic so maybe I'll go for that. Anything else that can be improved based on the price?
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Look for EVO edition, it is fully modular.
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post May 24 2016, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ May 24 2016, 03:31 PM)
Ok, this should be very final setup. Does the board good enough? I think GPU can hold first since the motherboard has IGP, can tahan first nod.gif
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I would go for Asus Z170 Pro Gaming instead, 10-phase VRM vs 6-phase VRM on Gigabyte Z170-HD3P, just require some top up (< RM 50).
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post May 25 2016, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(caviars @ May 24 2016, 10:59 PM)
[Budget]. RM800. Cheaper the better

[Purpose] Rebuild and minor upgrade broken PC (MB/CPU broken). For Web browsing, video streaming and flash game

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
ATX casing
PSU 450W (no brand). Working, but fan is noisy
HDD 500GB
4GB DRAM DDR3 (2 x 2GB)
CM CPU Cooler (hyper 212x)

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
None. For Web browsing, video streaming and flash game

[Personal preferences]
Prefer build with DDR3 so I can re-use the DRAM. So I'm thinking of few option

1) Replace PSU
Intel G3260 - RM230
Any MB with 4 DIMM slot. B85/H97 - RM350
RAM DDR3 4GB - RM 80
PSU - RM 140.

2) No PSU/ OC
Intel G3258 OC - RM300
Any MB with 4 DIMM slot and G3258 OC. B85/H97 - RM350
8 GB DDR3 RAM - RM 140

3) AMD build?

[Location]
Klang Valley
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DDR4 RAM is cheap nowadays.

Intel Pentium G4400 - RM 236
MSI B150M Pro-VH (D4) - RM 346
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 128

Total: RM 710 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If you really want to reuse your current DDR3 RAM, then make sure it is compatible with new DDR3 RAM if you are adding another 4GB.

Intel Pentium G3260 - RM 219
MSI B85M-E45 - RM 305
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 80
CM Elite Power 350W - RM 126

Total: RM 730 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(ssxcool @ May 25 2016, 08:21 AM)
anyone know which shop in lowyat sell thermal compound? hardwarezone pricelist only cycom have
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Most of them are selling, sometimes price list doesn't list out basic stuffs.
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post May 25 2016, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(sniperz @ May 25 2016, 04:43 PM)
http://www.tmt.my/onlinestore/index.php?ro...product_id=3550

I saw this budget PC which could be made enough for gaming. What do you think to add before it reach RM999? TMT's offer not bad.

AND... This as well.

http://www.tmt.my/onlinestore/index.php?ro...product_id=4245
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2GB RAM on Intel set, so you probably need to upgrade to 4GB, so left around RM 100+ for GPU which I don't think you can a new GPU with it, look for used GPU instead in Garage Sales.

AMD set comes with a stronger iGPU (HD 8370), but don't expect to run games at decent frame rate as well.
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QUOTE(lilsparda @ May 26 2016, 12:24 PM)
Hi guys,

Currently am using Intel G2030 Processor with Asus H61M-K mobo.

Will it compatible to upgrade my GPU From R7 250 to GTX750 to run dota 2 in max settings? above 100fps

Thanks in advance.
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GTX750 is just slightly faster than R7 250, yes you can expect some performance improvements but 100 FPS is hard to achieve with GTX750 on 1080p max settings (DX11).

Vulkan might help a bit but I am not entirely sure on this because Dota 2 only added Vulkan support few days ago.

If you don't have a 100Hz monitor then no point pushing for 100 FPS, you cannot see the difference on normal 60Hz monitor, what you will see is lots of screen tearing.
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QUOTE(lilsparda @ May 26 2016, 01:45 PM)
Any recommendation from you sifu? Im currently running medium settings. As you said, im also on 1080p 60hz monitor. If i go for higher settings, i'll experience some stutter/lag
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That's because your current R7 250 can only run medium settings at 60 FPS (more or less), if you wish to run everything maxed on 1080p, then you better go for GTX750Ti/GTX950.

But first, please go ahead and install MSI Afterburner and activate the OSD, observe the CPU and GPU usage and report back here, it has been a long time since I played Dota 2 on low end rig so I cannot give you a confirmation now whether upgrading GPU will increase the FPS or not. If FPS drop happens only when GPU usage is close to 100% then it is GPU issue, if CPU usage also close to 100% then you will need a better CPU.

Vulkan API will help to reduce the CPU overhead so there is a hope that you don't have to upgrade the CPU, remember to do a test on Vulkan version of Dota 2, the guide to enable Vulkan can be found on the Internet.
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QUOTE(pcnoob2708 @ May 26 2016, 01:51 PM)
[Budget] Preferable Rm1k or below

[Purpose] Upgrade for smoother game play/ regular activities

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Intel i5-3570
MSI B75MA-P45
Kingston Value Ram 1x8GB
WD Blue 1TB HDD
Sapphire 7870 XT
FSP Hexa 550W
DVD+RW 24x Lite On
Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
Dell 23" S2340L led 

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Hi-res gaming , internet browsing & movie

[Personal preferences]
Don't know if I should get an SSD. Because my PC start up getting slower. Do you all recommend me to change my GPU?
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What games you are playing currently?
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QUOTE(pcnoob2708 @ May 26 2016, 02:08 PM)
Currently I am playing GTA V, Dark Soul III, Witcher 3, Dota2 & Tree of Savior
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Alright stay with your 7870 first because your budget can only fit either GTX960/R9 380 but both of them are just slightly faster than your 7870, so it is not worth spending so much money to do this upgrade.

Get a SSD for the time being to improve system responsiveness and reduce boot time.
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QUOTE(Ambient @ May 26 2016, 02:38 PM)
[Budget]
RM4k incl monitor, excl graphics card

[Purpose]
Movies & gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
1TB HDD

[Monitor resolution]
Please recommend monitor as well, included in budget.

Preferably 1440p, will settle for 1080p.

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Latest AAA games at high-ultra settings, 60fps.

[Personal preferences]
128GB SSD is sufficient.

8GB RAM is enough? No need for multitasking.

Thinking about getting a GTX 1070 by end of the year.

[Location]
Penang
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1274
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133Hz Value RAM - RM 128
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 195
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 363
Tecware Alpha - RM 189
Dell U2515H - RM 1439

Total: RM 4034 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(pcnoob2708 @ May 26 2016, 02:44 PM)
Thank Terence! Which SSD do you recommend? I kinda new with this. And is it supportable with my current MOBO?
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Yes any SATA based SSD will be able to run on your current mobo.

Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD is just around RM 200.
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QUOTE(lilsparda @ May 26 2016, 04:09 PM)
Sure. Will do it once im back from work and post it up here. Whats the best value GTX 750Ti/950 that we can get?
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GTX750Ti around RM 500, GTX950 around RM 700.

QUOTE(Ambient @ May 26 2016, 04:12 PM)
Sweet. Thanks for the recommendation.

Any alternative to the monitor? One that's <RM1k.

And what is the D4 in H170-HD3 (D4)? When I look the mobo up, there's no D4.
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You have to switch to 1080p if you were to limit your budget for monitor < 1k.

There are many choices for 1080p monitor under 1k.
1. Get a Dell Ultrasharp
2. Get a cheap TN monitor (can be as low as RM 500 for 24 inch)
3. Get a mid end Dell monitor
4. Get a so-called "gaming" monitor
5. Get a 1080p 144Hz (~RM 1150)

The (D4) means DDR4 based, there are quite a few mobo with similar name but comes with DDR3 and DDR4 RAM module.
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QUOTE(2015315 @ May 27 2016, 12:02 AM)
Hi, I need some help in my pc set up.  After do some research, I come out below list. But still need sifu help look over and give some suggestion.

Budget: RM3K
Lifespan: 5yrs +
Purpose: Movie, Surf Net, Photo Editing, Extra Backup for importance file and photo, gaming.

Intel Core i5 6500
GIGABYTE GA-H170-HD3 SOCKET 1151
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM x 2
Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB SSD SATA3 (SHFS37A/240G)
WESTERN DIGITAL 3.5” 2TB 5400RPM 64MB SATA III (WD20EZRZ )

I need help in Power Supply, Graphic Card & Casing (if my old casing can’t use)

Any good budget graphic card around rm500+- recommend? Not a heavy gamer.
Game that plan to play (Actually all is old game that bought at humble bundle or Steam Offer)

Batman: Arkham Asylum GOTY Edition
Batman: Arkham City GOTY
BioShock, 2 & Infinite
FEAR, 2 & 3
Starcraft 2
Diablo 3

For power supply part, I dunno need how many w to support, and friend told me take 600W+ for future upgrade. Is it need to get until 600w+? Budget RM300+-

Casing part, I hope my old casing still can use (will check when I back hometown). But what if can’t use, any recommend? Prefer got front or top 3.0 usb port and SDD drive bay. Budget RM200 and below.

Thanks in advance for the help and suggestion.  notworthy.gif
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Get a GTX750Ti (around RM 500 for Zotac and Palit brand), should be able to handle the games listed at fairly good frame rate (not with maximum settings of course).

For PSU part, since you said it gonna be 5 years+ lifespan, so I don't think you gonna upgrade the hardware in the coming 5 years right? If yes then you don't really need to spend extra money to get a 600W PSU, it is just a waste unless you know you will upgrade to a more powerful GPU later, for this build (assuming you take GTX750Ti), a 400W PSU is more than enough.

If your current casing is not ATX form factor, then you need to switch to mATX/mITX appropriately.
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QUOTE(lilsparda @ May 27 2016, 01:11 AM)
I'm getting GPU Usage max of 99%, GPU temp max of 64. Dota at medium settings.

Edit: if i run on high settings, i only get 44 fps max
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How about CPU usage?
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QUOTE(casio17 @ May 27 2016, 10:10 AM)
any news on r7 470 launch? heard performance will be on par with r9 380 though.
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Polaris will be revealed in the upcoming Computex 2016 (next week), most likely actual product availability will be announced in the event too.
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QUOTE(casio17 @ May 27 2016, 11:05 AM)
Any expected price for polaris card? Hope R7 470 price do not reach RM800.  bangwall.gif
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My guess would be around RM 700.

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